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if you want to see centre backs more than just defensive units, but who are dynamic, play on the front foot and can launch attacks then luiz is one of very few. he take risks, in that respect i enjoy watching him play and that's why people are willing to pay top dollar for a key part of the brazil team.
50 m is too much, 30m? where have you been the last 5 yrs?
Well he is a useful player when Chelsea park their bus so they need to be compensated well when their preffered strategy ks challenged.
I don't think that's a very sane explanation to be honest m8
I think it must have something to do with the French love for physical comedy.
See also Jerry Lewis
[article=http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=708]
Why the French Love Jerry Lewis
From Cabaret to Early Cinema
Rae Beth Gordon
2001
Vividly bringing to light the tradition of physical comedy in the French cabaret, café-concert, and early French film comedy, this book answers the perplexing question, “Why do the French love Jerry Lewis?” The extraordinary emphasis on nervous pathology in the Parisian café-concert, where the genres of the Epileptic Singer and the Idiot Comic took center stage, and where popular comic monologues and songs included “Man with a Tic” and “I’m Neurasthenic,” points to a fascinating intersection between medicine and popular culture. The French tradition of comic performance style between 1870 and 1910 nearly exactly duplicates the movements, gestures, tics, grimaces, and speech anomalies found in nineteenth-century hysteria; the characteristics of hysteria became a new aesthetics.
Early French film comedy carried on this tradition of frenetic gesture and gait, as most film performers came from these entertainments and from the circus. Even before Chaplin’s films triumphed in France, film comics were instantly recognizable from their pathological gait, just as Jacques Tati would be a half-century later. Comedy, a genre that dominated French cinema until World War I, has often been linked to a mass public for film; the author elucidates this link by proposing a broadly generalized cultural-medical phenomenon as the explanation for the dominance of the comic genre. Comic performance style drew from a group of nervous disorders characterized by the psychological automatism emanating from the “lower faculties”: nervous reflex, motor impulses, sensation, and instinct.[/article]
See also Jerry Lewis
[article=http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=708]
Why the French Love Jerry Lewis
From Cabaret to Early Cinema
Rae Beth Gordon
2001
Vividly bringing to light the tradition of physical comedy in the French cabaret, café-concert, and early French film comedy, this book answers the perplexing question, “Why do the French love Jerry Lewis?” The extraordinary emphasis on nervous pathology in the Parisian café-concert, where the genres of the Epileptic Singer and the Idiot Comic took center stage, and where popular comic monologues and songs included “Man with a Tic” and “I’m Neurasthenic,” points to a fascinating intersection between medicine and popular culture. The French tradition of comic performance style between 1870 and 1910 nearly exactly duplicates the movements, gestures, tics, grimaces, and speech anomalies found in nineteenth-century hysteria; the characteristics of hysteria became a new aesthetics.
Early French film comedy carried on this tradition of frenetic gesture and gait, as most film performers came from these entertainments and from the circus. Even before Chaplin’s films triumphed in France, film comics were instantly recognizable from their pathological gait, just as Jacques Tati would be a half-century later. Comedy, a genre that dominated French cinema until World War I, has often been linked to a mass public for film; the author elucidates this link by proposing a broadly generalized cultural-medical phenomenon as the explanation for the dominance of the comic genre. Comic performance style drew from a group of nervous disorders characterized by the psychological automatism emanating from the “lower faculties”: nervous reflex, motor impulses, sensation, and instinct.[/article]
For a centre back it is, I had this conversation weeks ago on here, Ferdinand is still one of the most expensive centre back signings around. Of course it's too much, a defender who isn't even first choice for his club, going for £50m? Show me the going rate for centre backs in World Football at the moment.
he's more than a cb though, how many cb's can comfortably play as a DM in top european matches and for a top club?
He's not more than a centre back, he's a defender who occasionally gets utilised in midfield because he can't be trusted in defense. You're okaying forking out £50m on a utility player who can't hold down a regular place or a regular position.
It has to be money laundering and should be looked into.
I bet pound to a penny the Russian peasant and the Sheikh have a business deal in the offing and this is a sweetener which Abromovich can take out interest free as a payment towards the 'loans' he has against the club.
I bet pound to a penny the Russian peasant and the Sheikh have a business deal in the offing and this is a sweetener which Abromovich can take out interest free as a payment towards the 'loans' he has against the club.
Well, yeah, it's a bit conspiracy theoryish, but it's an explanation that in my mind beats PSG thinking, 'fuck, we best sign Luiz quick, 50m starting bid?'
Unless of course all players valuations are gonna soar this summer. I expected about a 10-15% increase but that's about double his true value.
Based on that, they'll break even as 21mill pounds = 25mill euros. So if they sell him at 40mill pound which is what the deal is, they make a loss, if it gets to 50 with the addons then they break even.
And he'll have been on 100 odd grand a week over the 3yrs he's been there.
It's a stupid amount of money for a decent, not brilliant defender, but I don't think there's anything untowards in the deal. Chelski wanted more than they paid for him or to break even on him, and PSG don't care about FFP, rightfully so.
not sure where the continuous references to 50m are coming from? I think we both agree that is too much. BBC says 40, which if true is not unreasonable.
40m Pounds is approx 50m euro. That's my guess.
Not unreasonable.
Fuck me it's absurd.
This is fucking amazing business by Chelsea. Shite.
It's dodgy as fuck business by Chelsea is what it is.
Conspiracy theory shmeory. This shit reeks.
I'll take that bet for £100. Ill PM you my bank details for the £10k you owe me. Maybe close your book too.
That would make perfect sense if Lille inserted a percentage of any future sales clause into the deal when they sold Hazzard to Chelsea.
Could well be the case.
ay - that lad from France ... Zouma I think ... sell an average CB for 50 million, replace him with one of the hottest young French CBs for 12 million ... KERCHINK.
Luiz < Tightass Bramble.
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