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[quote author=jono@home link=topic=43442.msg1244650#msg1244650 date=1294305513]
There is talk he will be here for the UTD game, which tbh is fucking ridiculous.
Talk about getting beaten even before the game is about to played. He should be let go today, Kenny or Rafa installed, could help lift team spirits.
Arguably Kenny would lift team spirits more so.. However Rafa would arguably be more equipped to deal with UTD..
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He's part blame for this mess.....I just don't get it with some people!!
Yeah lets bring back Rafa, he might just get the best outta that mid table dribble he assembled.... dear fucking god.
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I am not saying for the long term as there is no other viable alternative at present other than Dalglish, which tbh is just as big a risk as installing Rafa.
He would do a better job than the current status quo though.
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That's debatable! I'm not entirely sure on Kenny either, there are quite a few candidates out there with potential to step in as interim and prove something, i'm just not quite decided on who!!
[quote author=john link=topic=43442.msg1244683#msg1244683 date=1294307469]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=43442.msg1244650#msg1244650 date=1294305513]
There is talk he will be here for the UTD game, which tbh is fucking ridiculous.
Talk about getting beaten even before the game is about to played. He should be let go today, Kenny or Rafa installed, could help lift team spirits.
Arguably Kenny would lift team spirits more so.. However Rafa would arguably be more equipped to deal with UTD..
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He's part blame for this mess.....I just don't get it with some people!!
Yeah lets bring back Rafa, he might just get the best outta that mid table dribble he assembled.... dear fucking god.
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I am not saying for the long term as there is no other viable alternative at present other than Dalglish, which tbh is just as big a risk as installing Rafa.
He would do a better job than the current status quo though.
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That's debatable! I'm not entirely sure on Kenny either, there are quite a few candidates out there with potential to step in as interim and prove something, i'm just not quite decided on who!!
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Roy Hodgson Has Few Arguments Left for Keeping His Job After Awful 3-1 Loss at Blackburn by Nick Coman on Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:29PM 97 Do you like this story?
Roy Hodgson has asked for patience. He's asked for the chance to leave his imprint on his side, for his tactics to be accepted. He's asked for fan support, financial backing -- the list goes on, and the results have only grown worse, and at this point, he pretty much has nothing left to ask for.
In the wake of Liverpool's abysmal 3-1 loss to a Blackburn Rovers side that is nearly always uninspiring -- a result eerily similar to those against Wolves, Blackpool and other teams Liverpool supporters can't fathom losing to -- one of two things must be true -- or maybe both.
Either Liverpool's squad is full of players who just aren't very good, or Hodgson has been utterly incapable of making the team even a fraction of the sum of its parts.
It is said with relative frequency that this is nearly the same team as in 2008, yet this team is in 12th place, and that 2008 one finished second, but that may be a little unfair. The Sotirios Kyrgiakos-Martin Skrtel combination cannot hold a candle to the 2008 versions of Daniel Agger-Jamie Carragher in terms of class in central defense. Paul Konchesky is nowhere near the player that Fabio Aurelio was at that point, and the right back actually played defense in 2008.
David Ngog, also, wasn't anywhere near the first team, and Maxi Rodriguez, Christian Poulsen and Joe Cole can't be remotely be compared to the likes of Javier Mascherano, Yossi Benayoun and Xabi Alonso.
All in all, the 2008-09 team was not the same as the 2010-11 team, but even if the comparison is unfair, there's certainly half-truth in it.
Dirk Kuyt is still Dirk Kuyt -- except he isn't. Fernando Torres is still Fernando Torres -- except he isn't. The same can even be said of Steven Gerrard, who now has bursts of resolve and brilliance intermingling with long periods of disappearance. Sure, each is older, but not so much that any of them should have declined.
Their play is surely affected by the class of those around them, but even so, they just aren't themselves. Their body language is poor, they seem disinterested, and they play with a lack of belief.
When great players appear as such for such an extended period of time, there's no possible argument to make other that the manager is to blame.
Poor performance, of course, can often be condoned if the team seems to be giving an effort, playing fun, aggressive soccer, or at least showing signs of improvement. Those qualities, though, can be attributed to the likes of Wigan, Blackpool and Wolves -- none of whom Liverpool beat, but not Liverpool.
Hodgson's side, on the other hand, plays negative, low-pressure football normally displayed -- ironically -- by Blackburn Rovers. On Wednesday, Rovers surely didn't look as such. Instead, they proved how poorly the strategy was working for their opponents. They gave Blackburn ample space to win balls in midfield and build down both wings, the results of which were countless crosses and three beautiful Blackburn goals.
So, if nothing is working, why maintain the status quo -- especially in the midst of the transfer window?
Hodgson's philosophy is one of negative football. That may have worked at Fulham, but it has proven to be disastrous at Anfield, and any attempt on his part to "leave his imprint" as such could only prove more catastrophic. It's not as though he hasn't had a chance to bring players in. He did so with Cole, Konchesky, Poulsen and others, and they've generally proven to be exactly what he is -- negative in approach and performance. The team clearly must spend in January, but it would be dangerously profligate to allow the team to waste money in its current direction. Something must change.
Many considered the last-gasp Bolton win to be a stay of execution for Hodgson. Then, as usual under Hodgson, the next match came, and the team looked dead.
It is, of course, never a certainty, but it would be a surprise to many if that stay of execution wasn't short-lived -- even Mr. Hodgson could have few words to the contrary.
Roy Hodgson Has Few Arguments Left for Keeping His Job After Awful 3-1 Loss at Blackburn by Nick Coman on Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:29PM 97 Do you like this story?
Roy Hodgson has asked for patience. He's asked for the chance to leave his imprint on his side, for his tactics to be accepted. He's asked for fan support, financial backing -- the list goes on, and the results have only grown worse, and at this point, he pretty much has nothing left to ask for.
In the wake of Liverpool's abysmal 3-1 loss to a Blackburn Rovers side that is nearly always uninspiring -- a result eerily similar to those against Wolves, Blackpool and other teams Liverpool supporters can't fathom losing to -- one of two things must be true -- or maybe both.
Either Liverpool's squad is full of players who just aren't very good, or Hodgson has been utterly incapable of making the team even a fraction of the sum of its parts.
It is said with relative frequency that this is nearly the same team as in 2008, yet this team is in 12th place, and that 2008 one finished second, but that may be a little unfair. The Sotirios Kyrgiakos-Martin Skrtel combination cannot hold a candle to the 2008 versions of Daniel Agger-Jamie Carragher in terms of class in central defense. Paul Konchesky is nowhere near the player that Fabio Aurelio was at that point, and the right back actually played defense in 2008.
David Ngog, also, wasn't anywhere near the first team, and Maxi Rodriguez, Christian Poulsen and Joe Cole can't be remotely be compared to the likes of Javier Mascherano, Yossi Benayoun and Xabi Alonso.
All in all, the 2008-09 team was not the same as the 2010-11 team, but even if the comparison is unfair, there's certainly half-truth in it.
Dirk Kuyt is still Dirk Kuyt -- except he isn't. Fernando Torres is still Fernando Torres -- except he isn't. The same can even be said of Steven Gerrard, who now has bursts of resolve and brilliance intermingling with long periods of disappearance. Sure, each is older, but not so much that any of them should have declined.
Their play is surely affected by the class of those around them, but even so, they just aren't themselves. Their body language is poor, they seem disinterested, and they play with a lack of belief.
When great players appear as such for such an extended period of time, there's no possible argument to make other that the manager is to blame.
Poor performance, of course, can often be condoned if the team seems to be giving an effort, playing fun, aggressive soccer, or at least showing signs of improvement. Those qualities, though, can be attributed to the likes of Wigan, Blackpool and Wolves -- none of whom Liverpool beat, but not Liverpool.
Hodgson's side, on the other hand, plays negative, low-pressure football normally displayed -- ironically -- by Blackburn Rovers. On Wednesday, Rovers surely didn't look as such. Instead, they proved how poorly the strategy was working for their opponents. They gave Blackburn ample space to win balls in midfield and build down both wings, the results of which were countless crosses and three beautiful Blackburn goals.
So, if nothing is working, why maintain the status quo -- especially in the midst of the transfer window?
Hodgson's philosophy is one of negative football. That may have worked at Fulham, but it has proven to be disastrous at Anfield, and any attempt on his part to "leave his imprint" as such could only prove more catastrophic. It's not as though he hasn't had a chance to bring players in. He did so with Cole, Konchesky, Poulsen and others, and they've generally proven to be exactly what he is -- negative in approach and performance. The team clearly must spend in January, but it would be dangerously profligate to allow the team to waste money in its current direction. Something must change.
Many considered the last-gasp Bolton win to be a stay of execution for Hodgson. Then, as usual under Hodgson, the next match came, and the team looked dead.
It is, of course, never a certainty, but it would be a surprise to many if that stay of execution wasn't short-lived -- even Mr. Hodgson could have few words to the contrary.
Rafa by all accounts had one bad season which pales in comparison to the current one. We never win away and can't win at home. If relegation isn't a scary reality then I don't know what is?
The call for Rafa to step in temporarily is simply because he know the players strengths and weaknesses while they know his methods.
One thing he will do is arrest the slide and get us going again.
The call for Rafa to step in temporarily is simply because he know the players strengths and weaknesses while they know his methods.
One thing he will do is arrest the slide and get us going again.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
briankettle posted it in reply to Andrewheaton.
NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
briankettle posted it in reply to Andrewheaton.
NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244761#msg1244761 date=1294312804]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
Apparently there's a statement from the club shortly
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244764#msg1244764 date=1294312933]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244761#msg1244761 date=1294312804]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
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I edited the post with the link full info is 2 posts back, but here it is again, NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244761#msg1244761 date=1294312804]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
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I edited the post with the link full info is 2 posts back, but here it is again, NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
Once a final decision to fire him has been made there needs to be an interim situation, and whatever that is will require a negotiation, which will require agents and lawyers. So even if they decided to shove him last night it could take a while.
That's what I'm hoping anyways.
That's what I'm hoping anyways.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244772#msg1244772 date=1294313087]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244764#msg1244764 date=1294312933]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244761#msg1244761 date=1294312804]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
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I edited the post with the link full info is 2 posts back, but here it is again, NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
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Thanks
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244764#msg1244764 date=1294312933]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=43442.msg1244761#msg1244761 date=1294312804]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43442.msg1244759#msg1244759 date=1294312740]
Any direct link for that article ASBO?
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Sec it was off Twitter I'll go get it.
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Thanks. Just want to send the link onto a few idiots who think it's ALL the player's fault.
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I edited the post with the link full info is 2 posts back, but here it is again, NESN (80% owned by the Red Sox) have some interesting things to say about their majority owner's LFC manager http://tinyurl.com/3yqy4yr
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Thanks
[quote author=Krump link=topic=43442.msg1244779#msg1244779 date=1294313433]
Once a final decision to fire him has been made there needs to be an interim situation, and whatever that is will require a negotiation, which will require agents and lawyers. So even if they decided to shove him last night it could take a while.
That's what I'm hoping anyways.
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Fucks sake Krump, DATE & TIME. It's not difficult!
Once a final decision to fire him has been made there needs to be an interim situation, and whatever that is will require a negotiation, which will require agents and lawyers. So even if they decided to shove him last night it could take a while.
That's what I'm hoping anyways.
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Fucks sake Krump, DATE & TIME. It's not difficult!
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43442.msg1244766#msg1244766 date=1294312973]
Apparently there's a statement from the club shortly
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Where did you hear that Gerry?
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It's from TIA, but no idea if a statement will actually about Roy...
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43442.msg1244766#msg1244766 date=1294312973]
Apparently there's a statement from the club shortly
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Where did you hear that Gerry?
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It's from TIA, but no idea if a statement will actually about Roy...
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43442.msg1244804#msg1244804 date=1294315328]
He's lost nearly 50% of the league games that have been played. It's no brainer.
Today 1330
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But you are forgetting the famous win over Bolton, which led to a famous double over Bolton the same season!!! And all the glorious European nights which all held a phenomenal atmosphere!!!
He's lost nearly 50% of the league games that have been played. It's no brainer.
Today 1330
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But you are forgetting the famous win over Bolton, which led to a famous double over Bolton the same season!!! And all the glorious European nights which all held a phenomenal atmosphere!!!
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=43442.msg1244600#msg1244600 date=1294302989]
Ok folks, here goes, pick a date & time the old duffer will leave our club.
It's decided by either the press conference time or the lengthy Ian Cotton statement announcing the end of his tenure, whichever is released first by the club.
I go for tomorrow, Friday 7th January 2pm.
Closest to the pin wins. As for a prize, it's, erm, an iPod. Not a real one like, a existential one that exists only in the collective minds of SCM.
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Damn, that was my guess. Can't see anyone choosing this, so I'll go an hour later - Friday 7th Jan at 3pm.
Really need this to be held in a court room to emulate the tension and excitment of RBS v H&G. Get Lord Grabiner back to slag Hodgson off and state the facts.
Ok folks, here goes, pick a date & time the old duffer will leave our club.
It's decided by either the press conference time or the lengthy Ian Cotton statement announcing the end of his tenure, whichever is released first by the club.
I go for tomorrow, Friday 7th January 2pm.
Closest to the pin wins. As for a prize, it's, erm, an iPod. Not a real one like, a existential one that exists only in the collective minds of SCM.
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Damn, that was my guess. Can't see anyone choosing this, so I'll go an hour later - Friday 7th Jan at 3pm.
Really need this to be held in a court room to emulate the tension and excitment of RBS v H&G. Get Lord Grabiner back to slag Hodgson off and state the facts.
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[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43442.msg1244904#msg1244904 date=1294320056]
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
Hodgson must be like Biff in Back to the Future. Somehow he's found a flux capacitor, come back in time and changed the course of history. To restore the correct LFC timeline, he'll be sacked on November 5th 1955.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=43442.msg1244908#msg1244908 date=1294320123]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43442.msg1244904#msg1244904 date=1294320056]
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
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The only lazy about that is that it takes 1 hour and 43 minutes to say the words: YOUR FIRED.
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43442.msg1244904#msg1244904 date=1294320056]
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
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The only lazy about that is that it takes 1 hour and 43 minutes to say the words: YOUR FIRED.
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=43442.msg1244908#msg1244908 date=1294320123]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43442.msg1244904#msg1244904 date=1294320056]
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
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The only lazy about that is that it takes 1 hour and 43 minutes to say the words: YOUR FIRED.
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No Roy has to list the countries he is admired in around Europe, and all the PFMA's that voted for him.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=43442.msg1244908#msg1244908 date=1294320123]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43442.msg1244904#msg1244904 date=1294320056]
I don't wanna work out timezones, so here's my prediction: 1 hour, 43 minutes from the time of this post.
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Lazy sod.
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The only lazy about that is that it takes 1 hour and 43 minutes to say the words: YOUR FIRED.
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No Roy has to list the countries he is admired in around Europe, and all the PFMA's that voted for him.
Its a HUGE scandal that noone has won this by now.
I went for 10am/11am. I meant USA time. Still hopeful
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