Danny Murphy Retires
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ye're on dodgy ground and asking for trouble by throwing Biscan into the mix.
Cult hero or not he wasn't good enough. Three decent games doesn't change that.
Rafa and Spud have both correlated stories though, Rafa said he could stay but he couldn't guarantee he'd play many games, Murphy spat his dummy out and walked. He said not long afterwards that he was too rash and should have stayed and fought for his place. I guess the inevitable would have happened anyway sooner or later, but he'd have been a good option to have that season.
I remember his debut against Utd away and he was superb, even more so when Owen got sent off.
The game ended 1-1 but I thought Christ what a player we have here.
Some great memories from Spud!
The game ended 1-1 but I thought Christ what a player we have here.
Some great memories from Spud!
That's not really the same as players like Gerrard, Suarez, Sturridge, Alonso etc knowing they will be in the team more often than not. The fans knowing that and the manager suggesting as much. The conversation was about Alonso being brought in to play, which would limit Murphy's chances. It's not churlish to suggest managers have an idea of what the majority of their best side is, everyone knows form, injury, fatigue comes into play and that's why you have a squad, but I'm sure Rodgers knows deep down that he'd rather have Glen Johnson fit than have to toss between, say, Wisdom and Kelly.
Change the fucking record man.
Those winners against United were fucking awesome, not by any stretch the top top drawer but a very good player on his day. 20 years in the top flight is testimony to that, a good career and a good Red. Whats not to admire about the lad IMO.
What about Diao??!!! Here is his heartfelt letter to LFC fans in 2004 - Scandalously mistreated!
Dear Liverpool supporters,
Further to growing speculation in the national media that I will be leaving LFC this summer, I would like to reiterate that I am fully committed to the club. I still have three years left on my current contract, I am very happy to play for the team and I want to repay the faith Gerard Houllier showed in bringing me to England.
Liverpool is the team that not only do I play for, but one I have also grown to support, and I have no intention of letting this wonderful opportunity pass me by. I know I am part of a great institution and feel that I still have plenty of time to make a big impression on the team and the fans.
Unfortunately, injuries have dictated that my opportunities have been limited and the supporters haven't seen my true worth yet. I can understand that some fans might be frustrated because they are yet to see the Salif Diao that played at the World Cup for Senegal, but I can assure them all that I now feel fitter and stronger than ever and hope to take my performances to another level, given the opportunity.
Under the leadership of Mr Houllier, I believe I have the ideal coach to get the best out of me. His coaching knowledge and ability is widely respected, particularly among the European and African players, and I'm confident that he can help me become a better player over the course of the coming months and years.
More immediately, my aim is to break into the team and help the club gain a place back where it belongs: in the Champions League. If we can achieve that this season, then things will look so much better for the season ahead. We have the players here, in my opinion, to be winning trophies every season, and I aim to be a part of that success.
*Runs for cover*
Diao was dreadful. I have never seen a clumsier, more inept midfielder. Houllier's signing of Diao and Diouf on the basis of their presence in the Senegal team was clearly on impulse. If they had done any scouting on Diao, they would surely never have signed him.
Diouf, the "serial killer" as he was known in France, was actually quite a good player and much maligned on here. He had a bloody fantastic game against Man United in a League Cup final in Cardiff and made a total twat out of Gary Neville.
Diouf, the "serial killer" as he was known in France, was actually quite a good player and much maligned on here. He had a bloody fantastic game against Man United in a League Cup final in Cardiff and made a total twat out of Gary Neville.
Diouf was all about himself and for all his skills was an absolute disgrace for our club not least for spitting on Celtic fans.... I sincerely wish he had never put on a red shirt.
I think this illustrates how political correctness can work unfairly. Not being very politically correct, I don't expect a young guy from the back streets of Dakar to behave like Bobby Moore. No doubt in Senegal, if a stranger rubs your head unexpectedly, the normal reaction is to spit at them.
He had it in him to be quite a good player when he could be @rsed. Unfortunately that wasn't often enough to prevent him being possibly the only LFC no.9 ever to go a whole season without scoring. By any standard he was a woeful comedown on Nico Anelka.
You mean you wouldn't expect him to go robbing jewelry when on international duty? I agree
Tidbit: Diao's son is with the Academy now. McParland mentioned in an article earlier this year that Diao visits the Academy regularly as his son just signed with the U-9s.
Pretty sure that wasn't his debut, think he played in the first game of the season at Wimbledon. The Utd game was much later.
Ah ok, maybe his first start? In any case he was sublime that day
[article=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2469431/Danny-Murphy-Ive-got-takes-manage-top.html#ixzz2iLBsp0g8 ]Danny Murphy smiles at the suggestion he was a footballing ‘thinker’; an intelligent player with an eye for a pass before cultured midfielders became fashionable.
‘I think they just say that for players who don’t have pace!’ he jokes.
After 20 years and 599 league appearances for the likes of Crewe Alexandra, Liverpool and Fulham, Murphy, now 36, has retired. Yet there are still more challenges ahead.
Murphy will complete his UEFA ‘B’ Licence in November and, coupled with his growing profile as a media pundit, has a firm desire to go into management and coaching.
He finds it odd some people still think it has to be one or the other, believing the best managers are generally the best coaches.
Gerard Houllier at Liverpool was the exception: a manager who dictated to other coaches but still attended every session.
‘I’m sure that managing is easier than coaching,’ adds Murphy. ‘Being able to put on good sessions and improve a team, that’s tough and that’s what I want to do.
‘I was a thinker and a talker but I think I became better at helping others around me in a team shape. That’s a rare quality in players now, that leadership. Everyone gets on with their own job a little bit more now and I think teams miss that.
‘Think of Liverpool with Carra (Jamie Carragher) at the back, screaming. He’s a leader and a winner. Joe Hart’s got the same great presence and quality.
‘After being in the game and learning from managers as long as I have, I feel I could be good at coaching and managing. I’ve got a lot to learn but I’ve got more to give.’
There were three managers who really shaped Murphy’s career: former Liverpool boss Houllier, Dario Gradi at Crewe and Roy Hodgson, who made the midfielder his captain at Fulham.
Murphy counts himself especially lucky he encountered Gradi, who was ‘like a dad’ to him and used to stop training sessions to draw attention to his trainee ‘having a strop’ if he didn’t get the pass he wanted.
‘It took months, rather than weeks,’ admits Murphy, ‘but I stopped moaning.’
Houllier inherited Murphy at Liverpool, but the Frenchman sent him back to Crewe on loan to test his desire after 18 months at Anfield. It was a move that Murphy admits ‘changed his career’.
‘I thought I had made it a bit,’ he says. ‘I went from £200 a week to £3,000, but looking back I was a bit cocky. Liverpool was the dream.
‘I was a season ticket-holder at Liverpool for years as a kid. It was just classic schoolboy stuff.’
Houllier brought him back down to earth again after Liverpool won the Treble — the League, FA and UEFA Cups — in 2001.
Murphy thought his 10 goals and 47 appearances that season would be rewarded with a new contract, but instead Houllier told him to lose three quarters of a stone.
After a gruelling pre-season, Murphy made his England debut the following November.
‘Some of the best moments of my career were wearing that Liverpool shirt and winning trophies,’ says Murphy. ‘I think about the Manchester United goals, getting the winner at Everton (in April 2003) and playing in big games in big stadiums all over Europe.
‘It was disappointing to leave Liverpool. I could have gone to Everton under David Moyes, but I didn’t want the Liverpool fans to think badly of me.’
After spells at Charlton Athletic and Tottenham Hotspur, Murphy joined Lawrie Sanchez’s Fulham in August 2007. He thought the big European nights were behind him but then Hodgson arrived at Craven Cottage in December, marking the beginning of a relationship with the ‘most caring and articulate manager’ Murphy has ever had.
Murphy was incredulous at the notion his old Fulham boss’s ‘space monkey’ story could be construed as racist. He was equally livid that the sanctity of the England dressing room had been breached.
For it was Hodgson, after all, who gave Murphy the responsibility on which he thrived, both as captain and in a deeper role on the pitch.
After Murphy scored against Portsmouth to keep Fulham in the Premier League on the final day of the 2008 season, the club finished seventh the following year and then reached the 2010 Europa League final.
Murphy said: ‘Those few years we had a resilience and togetherness in that squad that was very rare. That’s why losing the Europa League final against Atletico Madrid was the biggest disappointment I had ever had in my career, even more than being injured at the 2002 World Cup.’
There are not many regrets, but Murphy feels he ‘probably left Fulham a year too early’ when his contract ran out in 2012.
And so to Blackburn Rovers, on ‘good money’ and a two-year contract, but a club where the constant change of personnel made it difficult for him to thrive.
This was not the finale Murphy wanted, nor did he feel a desire to extend his playing career by moving down the divisions or to continue living away from his home in Surrey with wife Joanna and their children Mya and Ethan.
‘It wasn’t about finances,’ he says, ‘it was about location and enjoying playing a certain way. Otherwise, what’s the point?’
Murphy’s ‘football philosophy’ is clearly already in place.
Perhaps the ‘thinking footballer’ tag wasn’t so wide of the mark, after all.[/article]
‘I think they just say that for players who don’t have pace!’ he jokes.
After 20 years and 599 league appearances for the likes of Crewe Alexandra, Liverpool and Fulham, Murphy, now 36, has retired. Yet there are still more challenges ahead.
Murphy will complete his UEFA ‘B’ Licence in November and, coupled with his growing profile as a media pundit, has a firm desire to go into management and coaching.
He finds it odd some people still think it has to be one or the other, believing the best managers are generally the best coaches.
Gerard Houllier at Liverpool was the exception: a manager who dictated to other coaches but still attended every session.
‘I’m sure that managing is easier than coaching,’ adds Murphy. ‘Being able to put on good sessions and improve a team, that’s tough and that’s what I want to do.
‘I was a thinker and a talker but I think I became better at helping others around me in a team shape. That’s a rare quality in players now, that leadership. Everyone gets on with their own job a little bit more now and I think teams miss that.
‘Think of Liverpool with Carra (Jamie Carragher) at the back, screaming. He’s a leader and a winner. Joe Hart’s got the same great presence and quality.
‘After being in the game and learning from managers as long as I have, I feel I could be good at coaching and managing. I’ve got a lot to learn but I’ve got more to give.’
There were three managers who really shaped Murphy’s career: former Liverpool boss Houllier, Dario Gradi at Crewe and Roy Hodgson, who made the midfielder his captain at Fulham.
Murphy counts himself especially lucky he encountered Gradi, who was ‘like a dad’ to him and used to stop training sessions to draw attention to his trainee ‘having a strop’ if he didn’t get the pass he wanted.
‘It took months, rather than weeks,’ admits Murphy, ‘but I stopped moaning.’
Houllier inherited Murphy at Liverpool, but the Frenchman sent him back to Crewe on loan to test his desire after 18 months at Anfield. It was a move that Murphy admits ‘changed his career’.
‘I thought I had made it a bit,’ he says. ‘I went from £200 a week to £3,000, but looking back I was a bit cocky. Liverpool was the dream.
‘I was a season ticket-holder at Liverpool for years as a kid. It was just classic schoolboy stuff.’
Houllier brought him back down to earth again after Liverpool won the Treble — the League, FA and UEFA Cups — in 2001.
Murphy thought his 10 goals and 47 appearances that season would be rewarded with a new contract, but instead Houllier told him to lose three quarters of a stone.
After a gruelling pre-season, Murphy made his England debut the following November.
‘Some of the best moments of my career were wearing that Liverpool shirt and winning trophies,’ says Murphy. ‘I think about the Manchester United goals, getting the winner at Everton (in April 2003) and playing in big games in big stadiums all over Europe.
‘It was disappointing to leave Liverpool. I could have gone to Everton under David Moyes, but I didn’t want the Liverpool fans to think badly of me.’
After spells at Charlton Athletic and Tottenham Hotspur, Murphy joined Lawrie Sanchez’s Fulham in August 2007. He thought the big European nights were behind him but then Hodgson arrived at Craven Cottage in December, marking the beginning of a relationship with the ‘most caring and articulate manager’ Murphy has ever had.
Murphy was incredulous at the notion his old Fulham boss’s ‘space monkey’ story could be construed as racist. He was equally livid that the sanctity of the England dressing room had been breached.
For it was Hodgson, after all, who gave Murphy the responsibility on which he thrived, both as captain and in a deeper role on the pitch.
After Murphy scored against Portsmouth to keep Fulham in the Premier League on the final day of the 2008 season, the club finished seventh the following year and then reached the 2010 Europa League final.
Murphy said: ‘Those few years we had a resilience and togetherness in that squad that was very rare. That’s why losing the Europa League final against Atletico Madrid was the biggest disappointment I had ever had in my career, even more than being injured at the 2002 World Cup.’
There are not many regrets, but Murphy feels he ‘probably left Fulham a year too early’ when his contract ran out in 2012.
And so to Blackburn Rovers, on ‘good money’ and a two-year contract, but a club where the constant change of personnel made it difficult for him to thrive.
This was not the finale Murphy wanted, nor did he feel a desire to extend his playing career by moving down the divisions or to continue living away from his home in Surrey with wife Joanna and their children Mya and Ethan.
‘It wasn’t about finances,’ he says, ‘it was about location and enjoying playing a certain way. Otherwise, what’s the point?’
Murphy’s ‘football philosophy’ is clearly already in place.
Perhaps the ‘thinking footballer’ tag wasn’t so wide of the mark, after all.[/article]
His views on the coach/manager thing are interesting. For sure he's been on the inside of top-class football and I haven't, but there have been a good few coaches who haven't made the transition to the no.1 job successfully. Obv.there's going to be some overlap, but essentially a coach is looking at day-to-day detail while a manager's more concerned with overall tactics. The two jobs are different and TBH I'd expect it to be fairly rare that someone could do both to the same high standard.
I'm also interested in what he says about that possible move to Everton. I heard at the time that he was quite keen on the move to begin with, though I can believe that it was he who eventually decided against it.
I'm also interested in what he says about that possible move to Everton. I heard at the time that he was quite keen on the move to begin with, though I can believe that it was he who eventually decided against it.
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