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Ryan

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So far this season he has:

- Got sent off at West Brom after getting caught hopelessly out of position and decided to haul down his opponent.

- Tried some God-fucking-awful piece of defending for Colback's cross last week against Sunderland.

- Decided not to bother even trying to block Rafael's goal yesterday. Did anyone else find it strange that he didn't even bother to put his leg out? Watch it again if you missed it.

- Let the ball trundle under his foot and allow Valencia to run free for their winner yesterday.

- And get injured. Again.

He's 28 in 2 months, we've won utterly zip in the 6 years he's been with us, he's prone to mistakes, is always injured - yet this forum was up in arms this summer at the thought of us accepting 25 million pounds for him.

What am I missing here?
 
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So 3 mistakes means we should sell our best/2nd best centre half when the alternative are a player who has played about 200 mins for the first team and a desperately slow Carra?

Behave.

Also I was sat directly behind Rafael and from that angle and distance not many would think he was going to slot it home. You can't blame Agger for that goal it was simply a wonderful strike and do so makes a mockery of your post.

Come on Ryan its normally me creating pointless threads, this is just rubbish.
 
Shit, I hadn't realised you were sat "directly behind" the shot Dreamy.

In that case, there's no way Agger could have put his leg out to try and block it.
 
Having achieved what he has in these 5 games £20m+ looked a good bet in transfer window
But he'll come great again
 
"Let the ball trundle under his foot" - I thought he definitely did that on purpose too. We should sell him and start Carra instead.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
"Let the ball trundle under his foot" - I thought he definitely did that on purpose too. We should sell him and start Carra instead.
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He tried a twatty little flick and fucked it up, fell to the ground to try and win a foul, got up and then got snapped by Johnson.

It was a comedy of errors from agger during that.
 
Ryan said:
Shit, I hadn't realised you were sat "directly behind" the shot Dreamy.

In that case, there's no way Agger could have put his leg out to try and block it.
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Tbf I was sitting next to dreamy and it was a masterful strike. Perfect placemebt

HOWEVER the suso not tracking back properly gave them space initially

Harsh to blame agger for the goal

Agree overall though
 
He's had a shit start to the season, there is no doubt about that.

But to be fair to him, he spent the summer trying to prevent the Lizard Overlords from flogging him on the slave market, I suspect that is bound to have a detrimental effect on your mental health.
 
his injury sounds serious and is even more annoying in the way he got it, his fuck up

give Coates a run
 
Fox said:
his injury sounds serious and is even more annoying in the way he got it, his fuck up

give Coates a run
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Yep, reminiscent of his injury against Spurs last season, his own fuck up leading to him being out on the sidelines for weeks, again.
 
I'm not convinced by Coates but I do think he's got something and is only young so will get better, but he might actually provide a sufficient threat for us from setpieces. I wouldn't be adverse to seeing Wisdom get a run either if Kelly is crocked.
 
Re: the Rafael goal, tbf I think he thought he forced him into enough of an angle that he was no longer a threat
 
Ryan said:
So far this season he has:

- Got sent off at West Brom after getting caught hopelessly out of position and decided to haul down his opponent.

- Tried some God-fucking-awful piece of defending for Colback's cross last week against Sunderland.

- Decided not to bother even trying to block Rafael's goal yesterday. Did anyone else find it strange that he didn't even bother to put his leg out? Watch it again if you missed it.

- Let the ball trundle under his foot and allow Valencia to run free for their winner yesterday.

- And get injured. Again.

He's 28 in 2 months, we've won utterly zip in the 6 years he's been with us, he's prone to mistakes, is always injured - yet this forum was up in arms this summer at the thought of us accepting 25 million pounds for him.

What am I missing here?
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I wasn't - I voiced my thoughts and got slammed. He's a good player but I felt we had ample cover in Coates, Carra, Wilson and at the time Kelly. £25million for him seemed a no-brainer.
 
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I wasn't - I voiced my thoughts and got slammed. He's a good player but I felt we had ample cover in Coates, Carra, Wilson and at the time Kelly. £25million for him seemed a no-brainer.
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I very much doubt that 25M was put on the table otherwise we would've sold him.

But either way we'd have had to spend some of the money received on a replacement because we wouldn't have had ample cover. Carra is quite obviously finished at this level, Coates, as promising as he looks, is still young and inexperienced, Kelly has never played CB for the first team and Wilson isn't very good.
 
keniget said:
I very much doubt that 25M was put on the table otherwise we would've sold him.

But either way we'd have had to spend some of the money received on a replacement because we wouldn't have had ample cover. Carra is quite obviously finished at this level, Coates, as promising as he looks, is still young and inexperienced, Kelly has never played CB for the first team and Wilson isn't very good.
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Well 25mill was the rumour at the time keni. Don't get me wrong I like Agger and rate him as a defender. In all honesty though I would have taken between 15-20mill for him. I feel central defenders are fairly straight forward to pick up as opposed to midfielders and strikers. Even goalies. Agger is a goodun no doubt but he cost 5million I think so a 15mill return would have been good. I agree though maybe picking up a replacement would have been prudent. Still it's all in the past now I guess.
 
I think the issue is that Skrtel and Agger looked like a great pairing last season. Agger stayed relatively injury free and Skrtel had cut out his at least one major fuck up per game, and at one point they both looked like going so maintaining the status quo seemed like the best thing. Unfortunately Skrtel has regressed to fucking things up now he has signed a new deal and now Agger is crocked, ahh well, lets hope Martin settles down.

regards
 
We KNEW he'd get injured again, at least I did. I'm guessing Agger will try to get the new contract asap...
 
Re: our defence last season. Was it so good because we defended in numbers in our own half, whereas now we defend all over the pitch?
 
Fabio said:
Re: our defence last season. Was it so good because we defended in numbers in our own half, whereas now we defend all over the pitch?
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It was always going to have an impact. Even the best defence on the planet would concede more goals if it had less protection.
 
refugee said:
It was always going to have an impact. Even the best defence on the planet would concede more goals if it had less protection.
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True, but my point is perhaps our defence isn't as good as we thought? We've conceded a decent amount in 4 games.
 
Fabio said:
True, but my point is perhaps our defence isn't as good as we thought? We've conceded a decent amount in 4 games.
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We have made stupid mistakes, and have conceded more than a decent amount if you count how many chances we have had against (At least if we look away from those bizarre last 30 mins against WBA). We definately miss a Lucas covering the defence. We need to adress this area better. And the fullbacks are caught a little out of position sometimes (similar to Chavs under Villas Boas).

The positive is that we look solid on set pieces against. At least more solid than we did last year.
 
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