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Coates hasn't shown enough and looks a liability. I don't know how much that has to do with playing time. He just doesn't inspire confidence, is as slow as fuck and turns like a bus. It just doesn't bode well for him.

Sell the poor bastard.
 
If we had loaned him out to a Championship team they would never have played him - an 18 yo just arrived in the UK ? Not a chance he'd get more than half a dozen games. We've have had a number of youngsters go out on loan and find it tough to even get a game, Coates would have been another.

We did the right thing, kept him in the squad so he could learn from players like Carra and Agger and played him in low-profile games, I don't see it as LFC's fault he didn't / hasn't yet made the next level. However he just seems ... 'fragile' I guess is the only word that comes to mind ... and for a tall lad is doesn't pull his size/weight in the air. If we get 5M we should be happy and move him on ... better for him too as I reckon Spain/Italy/Faroe Isles would suit his style more.
 
If we had loaned him out to a Championship team they would never have played him - an 18 yo just arrived in the UK ? Not a chance he'd get more than half a dozen games. We've have had a number of youngsters go out on loan and find it tough to even get a game, Coates would have been another.


He was hardly another youngster. He was 20 years old, had already played 50 or 60 games for his previous club, and was a full international at a decent started of nation.
 
I think when we signed him he was 20 yrs old going on 21. Is it of any coincidence that we had similar experience with Gabriel Paletta when he signed from Banfield?

Banfield are a traditional but relatively minor Argentine club, who play in tight, cramped stadium.

They are not under the same pressure to attack as one of the big teams.

It means that back at home Paletta was defending much closer to his own goal.

If the ball was played behind him, it was the keeper's. A pair of holding midfielders swept up the danger in front of him.

However, at Liverpool the defensive line is higher up the field.

In a type of football much faster than anything he has seen before he is taking up an unaccustomed position - one which all the while threatens to expose his lack of mobility.

Side tracking a little - Lucas' slow start to his career here, how Mascherano and Tevez's initial move to West Ham didn't work out, Forlan and Veron @ Man Utd etc.

Could we have allowed him to stay on another season at National? Or loaned him to a European(Spanish/Portugese/Dutch?) team to ease him into European football? I do wonder if we had a concise plan to develop him for the 1st team or was Comolli hoping it will be a signing that turns out to be a fruitful one. Reading his comments here, one would'be thought it to be the former rather than the latter.
 
He's still just 23, and central defenders tend to peak later in their careers. Send him on loan somewhere this season and reevaluate an year from now.

 
3 years left on his contract so yeah we can afford to send him out on loan for a season. It's not like we'll miss him a lot as a backup as he was hardly used last season.
 
i would stick with him, we can't afford to buy someone new and give them the time to acclimatise. he has potential and hopefully can fulfill it,
 
Fulham inquired about the availability of Sebastian Coates who will be allowed to leave #LFC if a suitable offer is received (Tony Barrett)
 
Fulham inquired about the availability of Sebastian Coates who will be allowed to leave #LFC if a suitable offer is received (Tony Barrett)


We could be beneficiaries of the Shahid Khan takeover with their new found cash 😛
 
We could be beneficiaries of the Shahid Khan takeover with their new found cash 😛


Khan was born in Lahore, Pakistan to a middle-class family who were involved in the construction industry.[3] His mother (now retired) was a professor of mathematics.[1] He moved to the United States in 1968 at age 16[1] to study at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign.[4][5] When he came to the United States, he spent his first night in a $2/night room at the University Y-YMCA,[1] and his first job was washing dishes for $1.20 an hour.[1]He joined the Beta Theta Pi fraternity at the school.[6] He graduated from the UIUC School of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering with a BSc in Industrial Engineering in 1971.[7][8] Khan acquired US citizenship in 1991.[1]

For those of you who don't know, Khan isn't some random oil billionaire, he's a "self made man". From his background, I doubt Fulham will become another sugar daddy club.
 
I think when we signed him he was 20 yrs old going on 21. Is it of any coincidence that we had similar experience with Gabriel Paletta when he signed from Banfield?



Side tracking a little - Lucas' slow start to his career here, how Mascherano and Tevez's initial move to West Ham didn't work out, Forlan and Veron @ Man Utd etc.

Could we have allowed him to stay on another season at National? Or loaned him to a European(Spanish/Portugese/Dutch?) team to ease him into European football? I do wonder if we had a concise plan to develop him for the 1st team or was Comolli hoping it will be a signing that turns out to be a fruitful one. Reading his comments here, one would'be thought it to be the former rather than the latter.


that's the same Paletta that Parma are wanting € 35 million for now.

Maybe we should keep Coates - loan him out and see how he develops with a consistent run of games
 
that's the same Paletta that Parma are wanting € 35 million for now.

Maybe we should keep Coates - loan him out and see how he develops with a consistent run of games

Wow, Paletta?! Did not know that.

Insua also went on to do well

So did San Jose and Barragan.

Maybe we should give Coates some more time.
 
I don't think it's a huge surprise if true. We sign these guys originally for a reason - they've shown that they've got talent and potential. The fact that over the years we've been pretty shit at getting the most out of our 'investments' is our fault and we don't seem to be learning our lesson if the whole Coates affair is anything to go by.
 
I don't think it's a huge surprise if true. We sign these guys originally for a reason - they've shown that they've got talent and potential. The fact that over the years we've been pretty shit at getting the most out of our 'investments' is our fault and we don't seem to be learning our lesson if the whole Coates affair is anything to go by.

Truth.
 
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