Carragher's 'obvious limitations'

[Insignificance]

And many defenders tend to get stereotyped, where certain aspects of their play are made to obscure other important aspects. Tommy Smith, for example, was really a very able footballer, who could pass really well and dominate either in the centre or as an attacking right back (have a look on YouTube at the 1974 cup final), and yet his image is of some kind of weapon of mass destruction.

Haha. Good point. I somehow believe he liked that image over some posh passer image.

 

[cloggypop]

Finishing, long shots and free kicks.

 

[Jerry Laser]

If he were in the Premier League now he'd be head and shoulders above any other CB.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

He didn't (and still doesn't) have a belly button, and so the fluff had nowhere to congregate. That's his undeniable human limitation.

Other than that, not quick, not dominant in the air, but he became a superb central defender - clever, exceptionally aware, exceptionally disciplined, strong, decisive, with a very good pass on him even though it wasn't 'flash' and therefore didn't catch the eye. I'm not sure he'd get into my all time best team, but only because we're spoilt for choice.

^This. He was a natural leader. No one cared more than he did. Hit too many hopeful long balls when a shorter pass would've done. Wasn't particularly fast (which is a trait that @manwithnoname you certainly think has an impact on the "ability" of a footballer). And I fucking love him.

 

[Insignificance]

If he were in the Premier League now he'd be head and shoulders above any other CB.

Which is a good Call. With Cahill captaining Chelsea, Koscnielcy captaining Arsenal and Otamendi, Bailly and a bunch of other mediocer names being the top defenders in the League I think a Matip/Carra partnership would be very strong. Which of course doesn't match With "the fact" that we today have by far the shittiest defence of the top 8... However that "fact" is as true as rest bullshit coming from same Source!!

 

[Best Believe It]

We've had some brilliant centre-backs. Carragher was one of them. They all had limitations, because pretty much all footballers do.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

@manwithnoname ..yeah that's a nice read of someone's high opinion of Carra and of course it's all a bit rosy too.. right?

I.e. the comment 'He thrived as a striker in his Youth' tells you all you need to know about how biased those comments are, and it's laughable really if anyone thinks Carra could play at any top level as a striker as in such were his talents. Do you even believe that yourself?

For me Carra is not in Gerrard's class. Few are. He's a great, and I will always remember him fondly, but not among the greatest. As defenders goes few were better than him in his prime but Sami and Hansen for me, both were.

We All Dream Of A Team Of Carraghers, yes we do, because he's everything you'd want in a model pro which you obviously are aware of is the meaning of it it's not about his skill set etc. becasue then you'd actually rather want a team of Messis. I'm not even convinced a team of Carras would beat a team of Origis - it would certainly get hammered by a team of Firminos.

Also, the argument about a bunch of different managers sticking to a certain player and recognizes him as being better than his reputation is a valid one but it will probably also be said about Lucas one day, why I'd argue it can be flawed too.

Anyways, I get it you hate if everyone is not just saying nice things of Carra, and I am almost that fan, I love him, but your over-the-top praise will of course ignite some responses and then you can go on with your superfan rhetoric's in a little while and then the trol.. i mean OP will join you in the feast.

A team of Carraghers would piss all over a team of Firminos. Also you can't count Lucas in the same way because almost every manager had him as a squad player at best, whereas Carragher spent maybe half a season on the bench. Carragher was a fantastic defender. He and Sami are comfortably the best I can remember seeing play for us (I only remember about 95 onwards).