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Bundesliga watch, post-season edition

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rurikbird

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Being a football nerd that I am, I decided to watch two games by Schalke, where Hojbjerg was playing, to check him and other Schalke players out. I chose games against Gladbach and Bayer from this Spring – 2 other teams with plenty of talented players who are or could be our potential targets. Here are my impressions on some players I saw in these two games:

Matip – his playing style is the anti-Sakho. He never overcomplicates things, doesn't try to win every battle decisively, being satisfied with simply containing the opposition and he makes all decisions quickly and without fuss – his attitude is very calm and professional, he seems to play with his head more than emotion. He seems more like a player who will give you 6.5-7/10 performance in every game rather than 8 in one game and 5 in the other. He made a couple of positional mistakes in both games and was generally solid rather than dominant – however he was pretty much dominant in the air and took charge on almost every incoming cross which was good to see. He also has good feet and is quite capable of carrying the ball forward and gliding past players. I think with the right partner he can form a very good combination; I'd like to see him paired with a defender of equal talent and matching qualities – he doesn't quite have this at Schalke, where he's clearly #1 and always has to direct his younger partners.

Sane – last time I saw a complete game with him was in the Fall, also against Bayer, he had an uncharacteristically poor game that night and I think I commented that his defensive contribution was lacking. Well, judging from these two games, he seems to have matured quite a bit – he was using his speed and strength in defense as well as attack and he either created or scored all 4 goals Schalke managed in those games. Very sharp mind and awareness. He has a strong frame in addition to the speed and shields the ball very well (kind of like Sterling). The only question for me is whether he can learn to cut inside near the edge of the area and shoot in the far corner consistently, like Ronaldo – if he does, he'll be world-class for sure, if not he'll just be a dangerous speedy winger. Overall, a great prospect.

Max Meyer – smart young #10 who makes correct decisions on the ball most of the time. Unselfish. Doesn't have enough stamina to be effective for 90 minutes yet. Maybe he can become a Modric-like playmaker in the future.

Hojbjerg – I have to say I'm quite disappointed with what I saw. First some context – in the Gladbach game he started as a lone holding midfielder, with Geis on the bench and Goretzka somehow playing on the right wing (Leon moved back into midfield at around 35 minutes, because Gladbach kept carving Schalke open through the middle). He was probably very uncomfortable without the support from Geis, because he didn't know where to run and even worse, didn't show any desire for defensive work whatsoever, basically just standing in the middle and watching the game, letting players run past him at will. There was not much positive to report in attack as well – he didn't move enough to open himself up for a pass, so rarely received the ball and when he finally did, he only made the simplest short pass. Instead of focusing on his own game, he was constantly gesticulating, showing teammates when and where to pass, even where nobody was looking at him or paying attention to his instructions. There was also a moment when he was completely incensed by a hard tackle made on him by Xhaka (a foul, but nothing out of the ordinary) and was visibly fuming about this for a minute. Overall, a very bad impression from that game – petulant attitude coupled with poor work rate.

He was noticeably better when paired with Geis in the game vs Bayer – his partner was willing to sit in front of the defense, so Hojbjerg had license to get further forward. He even had a shot on goal in the first 5 minutes and finally I saw one long-range pass (perfectly weighted and effortless – the ability is still there). Still I have to say he looks very raw, for instance the number of times he stretched half-heartedly to tackle someone and missed (and then simply stopped) is a clear sign on an immature player. He also literally not once tried to run forward with the ball and take an opponent on – something I saw him he do with confidence 2 years ago at Bayern. It was interesting to compare him against Dahoud in the same game; clearly the gap in maturity is huge. Hojbjerg must have a lot of talent, but there was very little actual expression of it on the pitch – I think he needs to find the right coach first and foremost, because clearly whatever they were doing with him at Schalke wasn't working and you can just feel the pent-up frustration in the player. At present he doesn't look fit or motivated.

Goretzka – I only saw him against Gladbach, so not much to say except that he is a hard-working player who never stops running and has solid technique. Scored a goal with the help of a deflection off Xhaka in that game.

Non-Schalke players:

Dahoud – unspectacular 1st half, but grew into the game in the 2nd and almost broke the goal frame with his curling shot from the edge of the area. Inexplicably subbed just as he was growing in influence.

Xhaka – he looked very good, unfortunately, 3 really tasty sliding tackles and just a solid presence in front of the defense. He'll make Arsenal stronger, no doubt.

Christensen – sorry if I disappointed @KayAgeEl with my report on Hojbjerg, but at least I quite liked this Dane! Looks cultured and intelligent like a younger Agger. Curiously, when Dahoud was subbed, Christensen moved into midfield to play further forward than Xhaka, and somehow it worked, because he actually scored the only goal of the game for Gladbach, from open play too! If Chelsea don't have use for him this year (for those who don't know, he's on 2-year loan from Chelsea at Gladbach), I think that's a player we should target.

Jonathan Tah – not much to report, other than that he is big and rather fast.

Julian Brandt – he reminds me of Thomas Muller, such an intelligent use of space for a young player (no wonder, his father is a coach) and he is a natural finisher, despite being a winger. One to watch for sure.
 
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Cheers Rurik, great read.

With regards to Højbjerg, you are in sync with others who's followed him closely this Season (I have only seen him sparsely for 04 and has not been overly impressed either) - he has not looked good. Slightly better in the last two months perhaps where he also managed to hold down his place in the team.

I am not sure how much all the chopping and changing in his career of late has infected him (he was a big success with Augsburg last season) but he's just recently expressed that he's looking very much forward to continuity in club and playing time - something we might not be able to offer him why it might be a bad match at this time.
He is by no means a 100 percent certain blockbuster should we go for him but I still reckon that with him being only 20-years-old and already experienced as much as he has, and with the talent and mentality he's got, he can become a world class player one day. He need to get back on track - and if Klopp likes him we should go for him now as I don't think he'll ever be available at a cheaper price - a great few seasons somewhere else would see him well out of reach for us I believe.

Andreas Christensen is a rare defensive talent - just recently the new Danish national coach expressed that he had never seen a player of his age with such talent, calmness and understanding of the game. Hope we are considering him at least even though he might already be too expensive for our liking. And I do wonder if Chelsea would sell him to a competitor too. The Agger-comparisons are inevitable, unearthed from the same club in Denmark, same style, position etc., but this bloke seems far less injury prone, more athletic, pacier and as you say more versatile.

Emil Forsberg, RB Leipzig
Really a player you should watch closely during the Euros for Sweden - Zlatan is everything in that team but Forsberg are their busy little bee making space, pinning smart passes, oozing creativity. A real flair player that can tackle, run forever and setup team mates as well as score himself. Been impressed with him almost every time I've seen him.

Yussuf Poulsen, RB Leipzig
From the same team you should keep an eye on winger/striker Yussuf Poulsen, all power, pace and strength. And goals and assists. Definitely lacks some in first touch and calmness but he's still young and the right guidance could turn him into a rather unplayable attacking outlet because of his physical attributes. Will present Denmark at the Olympics prob alongside Højbjerg and Andreas Christensen (and Viktor Fischer for that matter).

PS With regards to Julian Brandt, anyone that reminds you of Thomas Müller should be bought immediately.
 
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Oh, and nice review of Matip, really looking forward to see him in our defensive line. Sounds like a no nonsense type with brains.
 
It's no secret that I've been a fan of Goretzka for ages since I've seen him play for Bochum. I think he's the next best thing after we missed out on Xhaka.

Hojbjerg would be a big gamble but the player has more to lose than us and should come cheaply.

So yes, sign Goretzka and Hojbjerg!
 
It's no secret that I've been a fan of Goretzka for ages since I've seen him play for Bochum. I think he's the next best thing after we missed out on Xhaka.

Hojbjerg would be a big gamble but the player has more to lose than us and should come cheaply.

So yes, sign Goretzka and Hojbjerg!
They've actually played alongside each other in their midfield of late haven't they?

I wouldn't mind those two, Can, Henderson and Milner for our midfield spots and the young Croat.
 
They've actually played alongside each other in their midfield of late haven't they?

I wouldn't mind those two, Can, Henderson and Milner for our midfield spots and the young Croat.

Yeah, and it totally didn't work, at least in the game I saw – it was like Hendeson and Milner in the same midfield, only worse.
 
Yeah, and it totally didn't work, at least in the game I saw – it was like Hendeson and Milner in the same midfield, only worse.
One game and all that but yeah that doesn't sound too promising. Was Goretzka injured late in the Season then or what happened to him?
 
One game and all that but yeah that doesn't sound too promising. Was Goretzka injured late in the Season then or what happened to him?

I mean Goretzka himself seemed all right, but he's not the type to hold his position – he needs space to roam. And Hojbjerg needs a partner who will hold his position, like Geis does. So playing them together was a bit of a disaster – the funny thing is that Schalke won that game somehow, because Gladbach just couldn't put the ball in the net, despite dominating that game for the most part.
 
I mean Goretzka himself seemed all right, but he's not the type to hold his position – he needs space to roam. And Hojbjerg needs a partner who will hold his position, like Geis does. So playing them together was a bit of a disaster – the funny thing is that Schalke won that game somehow, because Gladbach just couldn't put the ball in the net, despite dominating that game for the most part.

Another problem with Schalke this year was that the players around that partnership weren't exactly workhorses too. I mean, offensively Schalke is good - but the defence is shit. So this made them look worse than it actually could be.

And I'm not too convinced that Breitenreiter was the man to teach them a lot. A proper coach and then we'll see.
 
Another problem with Schalke this year was that the players around that partnership weren't exactly workhorses too. I mean, offensively Schalke is good - but the defence is shit. So this made them look worse than it actually could be.

And I'm not too convinced that Breitenreiter was the man to teach them a lot. A proper coach and then we'll see.

Yeah, Schalke is a weird team – loaded with talent and money, but unable for the life of them to hire a decent manager. I think the best manager in their recent history was Ralf Rangnick and he's a bit of a nutcase who now manages in 2nd Bundesliga. That's why I don't think it's good for young talents like Sane and Hojberg to remain there for long – they are not being coached to their full potential by those journeyman managers Schalke keeps hiring.
 
Another problem with Schalke this year was that the players around that partnership weren't exactly workhorses too. I mean, offensively Schalke is good - but the defence is shit. So this made them look worse than it actually could be.

And I'm not too convinced that Breitenreiter was the man to teach them a lot. A proper coach and then we'll see.
Also heard some pundits not have the utmost faith in Breitenreiter, seems a bit 'ancient' in his approach.
 
Yeah, Schalke is a weird team – loaded with talent and money, but unable for the life of them to hire a decent manager. I think the best manager in their recent history was Ralf Rangnick and he's a bit of a nutcase who now manages in 2nd Bundesliga. That's why I don't think it's good for young talents like Sane and Hojberg to remain there for long – they are not being coached to their full potential by those journeyman managers Schalke keeps hiring.

Rangnick just got promoted to the Bundesliga with RB Leipzig.

It will be interesting to see how they'll do there.

Uli Hoeness once said he doesn't fear any team in Germany but RB Leipzig. And they were in the 3rd or 4th division then.
 
Rangnick just got promoted to the Bundesliga with RB Leipzig.

It will be interesting to see how they'll do there.

Uli Hoeness once said he doesn't fear any team in Germany but RB Leipzig. And they were in the 3rd or 4th division then.

He was referring to Red Bull's financial backing, I'm guessing??
 
I mean Goretzka himself seemed all right, but he's not the type to hold his position – he needs space to roam. And Hojbjerg needs a partner who will hold his position, like Geis does. So playing them together was a bit of a disaster – the funny thing is that Schalke won that game somehow, because Gladbach just couldn't put the ball in the net, despite dominating that game for the most part.

Maybe the player we should be targeting in midfield is Geis?

Can and Geis could maybe work?
 
Your Geis is as good as mine.

Gets a like for the effort.
Speaking of Bundesliga players, Rodriguez can leave for 18-19 mill.
Would solve our left back problem improve us big time.
Shame he'll end up at a CL club.
 
Julian Brandt's one to watch. 9 goals and 3 assists in 18 is pretty impressive for a 20 yr old.

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Not sure where to put this as the thread I've created about him has been shut for further replies.

Gladbach Player of the Year

1st Andreas Christensen with 54% of the votes.

2nd Granit Xhaka with 15% of the votes.

A statement on the club's website read:

"The 20-year-old can reflect on a truly impressive debut season for the Fohlenelf.

"The Bundesliga newcomer won 66.49 percent of his tackles this season – an outstanding rate, which was topped only by Mats Hummels and Sebastian Langkamp in the league.

"At just 20 years of age, his pace and astonishingly good positional play has contributed to his outstanding performances this season."

If you like here's my take on The Man In The Suit
 
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