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Don’t think anyone is expecting him to be like TAA.

You’d sacrifice the strength of the team to ensure he gets playing time, instead of playing a more experienced hand (like Milner) there?
Milner looked knackered last time out. We can't keep playing him 2-3 times a week. If we bring in Phillips and have Fabs back at DM I see no reason not to play Neco. He's not a total liability. And it's Brighton we're playing.
 
Williams hasn't impressed whatsover. Maybe he will improve, but looks a fish out of water. Not impressive going forward or defending. A carling cup player at best right now. Give him development time there.

Milner has to play against Brighton. He was superb against Leicester.

Play Matip and Williams at CB, Fab DM, Gini and Jones/Hendo in CM.
 
I think looking out to the next three games (Brighton, Ajax, Wolves) we are not going to be able to play Milner in all three. Which one of the three would you play Neco in? For me - this one, given the increased importance of Ajax.
Big gamble that, for someone who (right now) looks significantly below standard, and in a critical position to make the entire system work.... unless Klopp tweaks the system to include Jota and the usual front 3 (which I don’t love)
 
I've never been impressed with Neco Williams. Are there any other good RBs we have coming through? Abdi Sharif?

Sharif is still building back from a knee injury, and to be honest I don't think the coaches know where he is best suited to playing. They like him, but the fact they're still using him all over the place suggests they're still searching for the right role for him.

There's a lad called Jarell Quansah - he also plays CB. He's promising, but probably a couple of years away from having a chance to be with the first team squad. And I suspect he'll end up in the centre. Very precocious leader of the defence. There's also a norn iron lad, Conor Bradley - signed a three year contract this summer, a massive red living the dream. He's being converted gradually from a winger to an RB. He's also a really good prospect.

But no, in the short term, it's Williams. I think the flak he's getting is amazingly harsh. Don't forget he's not just filling in at RB alongside a makeshift CB pairing, he's also been playing without the usual defensive midfield in front of him. He's a young guy trying to play with far less support than Trent got when he came into the team. He needs time and experience, and while that might lead to some mixed perfomances now, he HAS got ability and potential for improvement.
 
... Williams. I think the flak he's getting is amazingly harsh. Don't forget he's not just filling in at RB alongside a makeshift CB pairing, he's also been playing without the usual defensive midfield in front of him. He's a young guy trying to play with far less support than Trent got when he came into the team. He needs time and experience, and while that might lead to some mixed performances now, he HAS got ability and potential for improvement.

Couldn't say it better. As I said a young lad learning the trade. Nice passer, can put in a great cross and has pace. He played against Atalanta with virtually no support. At his age and experience level it should be expected he'll make more mistakes but I actually find the signs good, though whether good enough to be TAA's permanent back up remains to be seen.
 
Hoever looked a much better prospect than Williams from what I saw. But I suppose we have to trust Klopp.

Id say the fact Wolves were willing to take him as part of the Jota deal suggests Hoever was rated higher than Williams not the other way around.
 
Despite some strong performances from Brighton, they have not won any of their last eight home matches at the Amex, including against Burnley and West Brom. With the influential Tariq Lamptey is suspended too.
 
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I have also noted that Salah is more involved in setting others up this season. Very good to see, as he was overly selfish before.
Strikers should of course be selfish, but it used to be too much. Ask Mane.
 
Yeah it's been noticeable that he has more often looked for a team mate in a better position rather than taking a higher tariff shot.

His and mane's passing in these situations though is way below the rest of their play. If they can sort that out well be flying. Not that we're doing too bad at present 😛
 
Betfair.

When is it and how can I watch it?
The match will begin at 12.30pm at the Amex Stadium on 28 November.

How can I watch it online and on TV?
The game will be broadcast live on BT Sport 1, with coverage beginning at 11.30am.

What is the team news?
Virgil van Dijk, Joe Gomez and Trent Alexander-Arnold have all been ruled out, while Thiago Alcantara, Naby Keita, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Xherdan Shaqiri are also unlikely to feature. However, after Fabinho returned in midweek, captain Jordan Henderson may also be back in action having returned to full training this week.

Tariq Lamptey is suspended following his red card against Aston Villa, while Adam Lallana is a doubt due to a groin injury. Alexis Mac Allister has also be ruled out due to coronavirus. However, Leandro Trossard is available again, while Solly March, Davy Propper and Aaron Connolly are also available.

Predicted line-ups
Brighton and Hove Albion: Ryan; White, Dunk, Webster; Veltman, Bissouma, Gross, March; Trossard; Welbeck, Maupay
Liverpool: Alisson; N Williams, Matip, Fabinho, Robertson; Milner, Wijnaldum; Salah, Firmino, Mane; Jota

What are the odds?
Brighton - 9/2
Draw - 10/3
Liverpool - 3/5
 
Rumoured team, eeeh:

Alisson
Neco Phillips Fabinho Robbo
Gini Milner
Minamino
Salah Bobby Jota
 
Rumoured team, eeeh:

Alisson
Neco Phillips Fabinho Robbo
Gini Milner
Minamino
Salah Bobby Jota
I hope Matip's absence is due to the Ajax game because it also gives some credence to some "in-the-know" lad on twitter last night who claimed Matip has a new injury and will be out for 6 weeks AND Alacantara won't be back for months! I hope it's the usual Twitter bollox.
 
Rumoured team, eeeh:

Alisson
Neco Phillips Fabinho Robbo
Gini Milner
Minamino
Salah Bobby Jota
Well I got 9 right and I think Philips is the right call replacing one of Matip or Fabs. Minamino an interesting call over Jones. I'm guessing this means Hendo starts vs. Ajax in place of Millie.
 
He's getting his full monies worth out of Milner. Rinsing every last penny. The poor bastard must be wondering why he's getting flogged to death game after game, covering everyone else's positions who are a decade or more younger than him, whilst they put their feet up on the bench or the treatment room.
 
If that's the team, it'll give us a decent chance to look at minamino in that role

Literally the only positive mind
 
Neco gets way too much stick.

I find it really strange how fashionable it's become to slag him off.

Especially since he's a wide eyed white boy with a tiny cock.
Really? I haven’t been following the match threads so maybe I’ve missed the concerted abuse towards him.

I think the issue is that he came in and looked so promising (albeit loads of people got way too carried away and suggested he was too good to be a backup and could free TAA up to move to midfield) but since then has offered very little (if anything) going forwards - which is an absolute must in our system - and has looked poor positionally in defence.

“He’s young” is absolutely valid, but it can’t be the only thing in his favour, and there is a touch of pressure on the lad given some of the talent we’ve moved on, and the workload our fullbacks have to get through
 
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