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Yes, Lucas is much better than Gerrard in CM.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=42435.msg1206612#msg1206612 date=1288162902]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42435.msg1206519#msg1206519 date=1288131856]
[quote author=dubluke link=topic=42435.msg1206086#msg1206086 date=1288097469]
Gerrard is a fucking hopeless option as a centre mid, one of the most irritating things about Sky and the English media is their insistence that Gerrard's natural home is in the centre of the park. Is it bollocks! He has no discipline and the team's shape disintegrates when he plays there. He is a marvellous off-striker as he has shown in the past few years, and he also scored a bunch as a right mid, he is way more effective when he doesn't have the responsibility of dictating the game and making the team tick.
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I actually agree with most of this.
You've gone a bit mental with your "fucking hopeless" chat, but I do agree with the general thrust of your argument. I wouldn't have him in centre midfield either.
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Thirded. Gerrard isn't fucking hopeless there at centre midfield but i would say if we want to get the most out of the team, play Gerrard at right wing or as a support striker.
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If and when we get the squad sorted out, I'd play him further forward too. Until we get to that point, though, he'll be of more use to us in CM and would have been ever since Alonso left. Playing Lucas in there instead is too high a price to pay.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42435.msg1206519#msg1206519 date=1288131856]
[quote author=dubluke link=topic=42435.msg1206086#msg1206086 date=1288097469]
Gerrard is a fucking hopeless option as a centre mid, one of the most irritating things about Sky and the English media is their insistence that Gerrard's natural home is in the centre of the park. Is it bollocks! He has no discipline and the team's shape disintegrates when he plays there. He is a marvellous off-striker as he has shown in the past few years, and he also scored a bunch as a right mid, he is way more effective when he doesn't have the responsibility of dictating the game and making the team tick.
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I actually agree with most of this.
You've gone a bit mental with your "fucking hopeless" chat, but I do agree with the general thrust of your argument. I wouldn't have him in centre midfield either.
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Thirded. Gerrard isn't fucking hopeless there at centre midfield but i would say if we want to get the most out of the team, play Gerrard at right wing or as a support striker.
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If and when we get the squad sorted out, I'd play him further forward too. Until we get to that point, though, he'll be of more use to us in CM and would have been ever since Alonso left. Playing Lucas in there instead is too high a price to pay.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42435.msg1206519#msg1206519 date=1288131856]
[quote author=dubluke link=topic=42435.msg1206086#msg1206086 date=1288097469]
Gerrard is a fucking hopeless option as a centre mid, one of the most irritating things about Sky and the English media is their insistence that Gerrard's natural home is in the centre of the park. Is it bollocks! He has no discipline and the team's shape disintegrates when he plays there. He is a marvellous off-striker as he has shown in the past few years, and he also scored a bunch as a right mid, he is way more effective when he doesn't have the responsibility of dictating the game and making the team tick.
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I actually agree with most of this.
You've gone a bit mental with your "fucking hopeless" chat, but I do agree with the general thrust of your argument. I wouldn't have him in centre midfield either.
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Thirded. Gerrard isn't fucking hopeless there at centre midfield but i would say if we want to get the most out of the team, play Gerrard at right wing or as a support striker.
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If and when we get the squad sorted out, I'd play him further forward too. Until we get to that point, though, he'll be of more use to us in CM and would have been ever since Xabi left. Playing Lucas in there instead is too high a price to pay.
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Yeah it's definitely more about being the sum of our parts than anything else. Preferably, and because statistically we've always got the best out of him, I'd played him forward, but out of necessity right now he needs to play centre mid.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=42435.msg1206612#msg1206612 date=1288162902]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42435.msg1206519#msg1206519 date=1288131856]
[quote author=dubluke link=topic=42435.msg1206086#msg1206086 date=1288097469]
Gerrard is a fucking hopeless option as a centre mid, one of the most irritating things about Sky and the English media is their insistence that Gerrard's natural home is in the centre of the park. Is it bollocks! He has no discipline and the team's shape disintegrates when he plays there. He is a marvellous off-striker as he has shown in the past few years, and he also scored a bunch as a right mid, he is way more effective when he doesn't have the responsibility of dictating the game and making the team tick.
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I actually agree with most of this.
You've gone a bit mental with your "fucking hopeless" chat, but I do agree with the general thrust of your argument. I wouldn't have him in centre midfield either.
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Thirded. Gerrard isn't fucking hopeless there at centre midfield but i would say if we want to get the most out of the team, play Gerrard at right wing or as a support striker.
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If and when we get the squad sorted out, I'd play him further forward too. Until we get to that point, though, he'll be of more use to us in CM and would have been ever since Xabi left. Playing Lucas in there instead is too high a price to pay.
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Yeah it's definitely more about being the sum of our parts than anything else. Preferably, and because statistically we've always got the best out of him, I'd played him forward, but out of necessity right now he needs to play centre mid.
He's not great either IMO, but Coyle's a good manager and plays the kind of football which most forward players would enjoy.
I'll be surprised if we get better thsn a draw there
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The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206771#msg1206771 date=1288181406]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
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If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
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If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206771#msg1206771 date=1288181406]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
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If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
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Maybe. But presently, it's still a fact and not a myth 😉
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206771#msg1206771 date=1288181406]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
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If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
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Maybe. But presently, it's still a fact and not a myth 😉
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206777#msg1206777 date=1288181822]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206775#msg1206775 date=1288181605]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206771#msg1206771 date=1288181406]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
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I think you'll find it's a fact.
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If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
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Maybe. But presently, it's still a fact and not a myth 😉
The 3 points have been trumpeted that if we win, we will get to 8th! Now that is a myth!
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206775#msg1206775 date=1288181605]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42435.msg1206771#msg1206771 date=1288181406]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=42435.msg1206734#msg1206734 date=1288176632]
The three point between 7th and 18th is a myth. As if all the others above us will lose or draw!
[/quote]
I think you'll find it's a fact.
[/quote]
If we lose or draw which is most likely, and 7th to 10th wins, they are 5 to 6 points ahead.
[/quote]
Maybe. But presently, it's still a fact and not a myth 😉
The 3 points have been trumpeted that if we win, we will get to 8th! Now that is a myth!
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