Birmingham City vs Liverpool
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too much respect paid to brum. look at the starting line up, look at our caution.
4th is gone.
4th is gone.
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=39649.msg1081979#msg1081979 date=1270396351]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39649.msg1081971#msg1081971 date=1270396192]
RedStar - Maxi has been the best player on the pitch after Gerrard.
Ngog should have scored again ... DAMNIT.
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he is a lightweight, he has 3 clearcut chances today and bottled every one of them with a tame effort
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How were his efforts 'tame'? His first chance hit the cross bar (still not sure if Hart got a piece), his second was going in until it hit Aqua and the 3rd one was a big mishit.
He had a good game.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39649.msg1081971#msg1081971 date=1270396192]
RedStar - Maxi has been the best player on the pitch after Gerrard.
Ngog should have scored again ... DAMNIT.
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he is a lightweight, he has 3 clearcut chances today and bottled every one of them with a tame effort
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How were his efforts 'tame'? His first chance hit the cross bar (still not sure if Hart got a piece), his second was going in until it hit Aqua and the 3rd one was a big mishit.
He had a good game.
why were yossi and kuyt given as long as they were? in fact why did they start in the first place.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082019#msg1082019 date=1270397139]
why were yossi and kuyt given as long as they were? in fact why did they start in the first place.
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You know the [sub][Rafa] [/sub]rules of soccer.
Substitutions may only commence on or after the 63rd minute of play.
why were yossi and kuyt given as long as they were? in fact why did they start in the first place.
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You know the [sub][Rafa] [/sub]rules of soccer.
Substitutions may only commence on or after the 63rd minute of play.
For us to get 4th, City and Spurs must lose at least 2 games, maybe even 3. Could happen of course, but we really blew it today.
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=39649.msg1082035#msg1082035 date=1270397688]
For us to get 4th, City and Spurs must lose at least 2 games, maybe even 3. Could happen of course, but we really blew it today.
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
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If we are to win our last five games Hansern I think it would probably be enough to get it.
Whether we deserve it is another matter.
For us to get 4th, City and Spurs must lose at least 2 games, maybe even 3. Could happen of course, but we really blew it today.
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
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If we are to win our last five games Hansern I think it would probably be enough to get it.
Whether we deserve it is another matter.
the horrible thing is we are now going to be into the chelsea game needing to WIN with chelsea with the league in their sights.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39649.msg1082009#msg1082009 date=1270396799]
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=39649.msg1081979#msg1081979 date=1270396351]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39649.msg1081971#msg1081971 date=1270396192]
RedStar - Maxi has been the best player on the pitch after Gerrard.
Ngog should have scored again ... DAMNIT.
[/quote]
he is a lightweight, he has 3 clearcut chances today and bottled every one of them with a tame effort
[/quote]
How were his efforts 'tame'? His first chance hit the cross bar (still not sure if Hart got a piece), his second was going in until it hit Aqua and the 3rd one was a big mishit.
He had a good game.
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Oneach occasion he just directed it goalwards without much conviction, the 2nd one he kicked at 2 players standing about 4 yards in front of him, no composure no belief in any of his efforts. I dont like him generally but today confirmed it for me, he has not heart what so ever, nicce touches but not appetite for a battle and no commitment, combined with the football black holes that are Kuyt and Lucas that team was a disaster
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=39649.msg1081979#msg1081979 date=1270396351]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39649.msg1081971#msg1081971 date=1270396192]
RedStar - Maxi has been the best player on the pitch after Gerrard.
Ngog should have scored again ... DAMNIT.
[/quote]
he is a lightweight, he has 3 clearcut chances today and bottled every one of them with a tame effort
[/quote]
How were his efforts 'tame'? His first chance hit the cross bar (still not sure if Hart got a piece), his second was going in until it hit Aqua and the 3rd one was a big mishit.
He had a good game.
[/quote]
Oneach occasion he just directed it goalwards without much conviction, the 2nd one he kicked at 2 players standing about 4 yards in front of him, no composure no belief in any of his efforts. I dont like him generally but today confirmed it for me, he has not heart what so ever, nicce touches but not appetite for a battle and no commitment, combined with the football black holes that are Kuyt and Lucas that team was a disaster
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=39649.msg1082035#msg1082035 date=1270397688]
For us to get 4th, City and Spurs must lose at least 2 games, maybe even 3. Could happen of course, but we really blew it today.
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
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Don't. Just don't do it to yourself.
Today was the day for me, there is no way we'll get fourth. We'll probably get ahead of spurs, but City is potentially 7 points ahead of us. SEVEN.
And add to that the fact that we are fucking shite, and won't win our remaining 5 games.
For us to get 4th, City and Spurs must lose at least 2 games, maybe even 3. Could happen of course, but we really blew it today.
City can lose to Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and Utd.
Spurs can lose to Arse, chelsea, utd and City. But its really totally out of our hands, and City will probably get it.
How sweet would it be though if Spurs lose 3 games and then beats City the 5th of may. And we pop past City.
*dreams*
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Don't. Just don't do it to yourself.
Today was the day for me, there is no way we'll get fourth. We'll probably get ahead of spurs, but City is potentially 7 points ahead of us. SEVEN.
And add to that the fact that we are fucking shite, and won't win our remaining 5 games.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can only think he was giving Yossi game time before Benfica on Thursday, so that he's ready to play in his worst position (on the left) for that game too.
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can only think he was giving Yossi game time before Benfica on Thursday, so that he's ready to play in his worst position (on the left) for that game too.
Lads fucking forget 4th place and all this but if City lose games and Spurs lose two and we win ours bollocks.
It's not going to happen, end of story.
We had to win today to give us a glimmer of hope, even if we had won we'd still be outsiders but now we've no chance.
Might as well have Chelsea beating us at Anfield now, if it means the Scum dont win the league. FUCK IT
It's not going to happen, end of story.
We had to win today to give us a glimmer of hope, even if we had won we'd still be outsiders but now we've no chance.
Might as well have Chelsea beating us at Anfield now, if it means the Scum dont win the league. FUCK IT
Not that it matters but agger was injured today back injury hence why he didnt start.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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You're entitled you your opinion but no way should we be looking to sell a player like Benayoun.
Yossi's a quality little player and more than good enough for a place in the Liverpool squad.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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You're entitled you your opinion but no way should we be looking to sell a player like Benayoun.
Yossi's a quality little player and more than good enough for a place in the Liverpool squad.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=39649.msg1082338#msg1082338 date=1270438618]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
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Me too. It's a ridiculous thing to say, really, given that we seriously lack squad depth. Yossi is exactly the sort of player you want on the bench or as someone who can step in when your first-choice RW/no10 is out. The reason he's been so anonymous lately is that Rafa keeps picking him on the left.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
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Me too. It's a ridiculous thing to say, really, given that we seriously lack squad depth. Yossi is exactly the sort of player you want on the bench or as someone who can step in when your first-choice RW/no10 is out. The reason he's been so anonymous lately is that Rafa keeps picking him on the left.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39649.msg1082383#msg1082383 date=1270454228]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=39649.msg1082338#msg1082338 date=1270438618]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
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Me too. It's a ridiculous thing to say, really, given that we seriously lack squad depth. Yossi is exactly the sort of player you want on the bench or as someone who can step in when your first-choice RW/no10 is out. The reason he's been so anonymous lately is that Rafa keeps picking him on the left.
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I think most of our first team now are good squad players who can come in every now and then when the key players are injured. We have the makings of a good *squad* but our first XI is sorely lacking in quality. People like Yossi, Insua, Lucas, Babel, Maxi and Kuyt, to a certain extent, belongs on the bench.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=39649.msg1082338#msg1082338 date=1270438618]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39649.msg1082230#msg1082230 date=1270411891]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39649.msg1082053#msg1082053 date=1270398432]
I want to know why rafa thinks yossi is a better option than babel on the left, I'm not talking in a free role I'm talking on the left were I can't remember when was the last time I saw a good performance from yossi.
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I can't wait until Casper leaves Anfield.
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There are several others that I'd get shot of before Yossi, mate.
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Me too. It's a ridiculous thing to say, really, given that we seriously lack squad depth. Yossi is exactly the sort of player you want on the bench or as someone who can step in when your first-choice RW/no10 is out. The reason he's been so anonymous lately is that Rafa keeps picking him on the left.
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I think most of our first team now are good squad players who can come in every now and then when the key players are injured. We have the makings of a good *squad* but our first XI is sorely lacking in quality. People like Yossi, Insua, Lucas, Babel, Maxi and Kuyt, to a certain extent, belongs on the bench.
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=39649.msg1081985#msg1081985 date=1270396390]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39649.msg1081966#msg1081966 date=1270396116]
"we get an owner that's loaded"
If that were possible do you think it'd be more likely once we're out of the Champions League? If it were that easy we'd have one already.
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We would have had Loaded owners if it Weren't for that greedy bastard Moore's. The rumour went he shafted DIC by leaking details of there bid to the americans. City done it and there brand is nowhere near appealing as the Liverpool one, so i think it would be easy to attract a sugardaddy.
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I don't think Moores was greedy but I do think he was incompetent from day one. He dithered over selling more than once and naffed off previous bids/expressions of interest that way. Ultimately his faffing around led to an ultimatum from DIC which he either ignored or failed to get his act together to answer, which left H and G as the only show in town.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39649.msg1081966#msg1081966 date=1270396116]
"we get an owner that's loaded"
If that were possible do you think it'd be more likely once we're out of the Champions League? If it were that easy we'd have one already.
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We would have had Loaded owners if it Weren't for that greedy bastard Moore's. The rumour went he shafted DIC by leaking details of there bid to the americans. City done it and there brand is nowhere near appealing as the Liverpool one, so i think it would be easy to attract a sugardaddy.
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I don't think Moores was greedy but I do think he was incompetent from day one. He dithered over selling more than once and naffed off previous bids/expressions of interest that way. Ultimately his faffing around led to an ultimatum from DIC which he either ignored or failed to get his act together to answer, which left H and G as the only show in town.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39649.msg1082540#msg1082540 date=1270484926]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=39649.msg1081985#msg1081985 date=1270396390]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39649.msg1081966#msg1081966 date=1270396116]
"we get an owner that's loaded"
If that were possible do you think it'd be more likely once we're out of the Champions League? If it were that easy we'd have one already.
[/quote]
We would have had Loaded owners if it Weren't for that greedy bastard Moore's. The rumour went he shafted DIC by leaking details of there bid to the americans. City done it and there brand is nowhere near appealing as the Liverpool one, so i think it would be easy to attract a sugardaddy.
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I don't think Moores was greedy but I do think he was incompetent from day one. He dithered over selling more than once and naffed off previous bids/expressions of interest that way. Ultimately his faffing around led to an ultimatum from DIC which he either ignored or failed to get his act together to answer, which left H and G as the only show in town.
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Agree with this; Moores did try his best.
Unfortunately it's been pretty woeful.
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=39649.msg1081985#msg1081985 date=1270396390]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39649.msg1081966#msg1081966 date=1270396116]
"we get an owner that's loaded"
If that were possible do you think it'd be more likely once we're out of the Champions League? If it were that easy we'd have one already.
[/quote]
We would have had Loaded owners if it Weren't for that greedy bastard Moore's. The rumour went he shafted DIC by leaking details of there bid to the americans. City done it and there brand is nowhere near appealing as the Liverpool one, so i think it would be easy to attract a sugardaddy.
[/quote]
I don't think Moores was greedy but I do think he was incompetent from day one. He dithered over selling more than once and naffed off previous bids/expressions of interest that way. Ultimately his faffing around led to an ultimatum from DIC which he either ignored or failed to get his act together to answer, which left H and G as the only show in town.
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Agree with this; Moores did try his best.
Unfortunately it's been pretty woeful.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39649.msg1082540#msg1082540 date=1270484926] Ultimately his faffing around led to an ultimatum from DIC which he either ignored or failed to get his act together to answer, which left H and G as the only show in town.
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Jules, as I remember it, DIC took months over their "due diligence" exercise and it was they who were indecisive. The Americans took two weeks to do the same thing.
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Jules, as I remember it, DIC took months over their "due diligence" exercise and it was they who were indecisive. The Americans took two weeks to do the same thing.
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