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59-64 “The Dynasty Beganâ€
First of December
Ninety Fifty Nine
We appointed a new manager
A legend of all time
We got him from Huddersfield
The Yorkshire terriers
And from that moment on
Every side would fear us
He came to us with a plan
To change our direction
And once he’d done that
He had won our affection
Because after we’d won
Division Two with much ease
We’d storm the top flight
And be crowned Kings of the League
So between fifty nine and sixty four
The foundations were laid
And now The Dynasty Began
For Bill Shankly and his Red Brigade
59-64 “The Dynasty Beganâ€
First of December
Ninety Fifty Nine
We appointed a new manager
A legend of all time
We got him from Huddersfield
The Yorkshire terriers
And from that moment on
Every side would fear us
He came to us with a plan
To change our direction
And once he’d done that
He had won our affection
Because after we’d won
Division Two with much ease
We’d storm the top flight
And be crowned Kings of the League
So between fifty nine and sixty four
The foundations were laid
And now The Dynasty Began
For Bill Shankly and his Red Brigade
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
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Lech, you just compared our greatest ever manager to Alex Ferguson!! Shanks was humble, funny, charming and was magnanimous in defeat. Shanks was the reason that nobody ((bar Evertonians) hated us during our glory years and Ferguson is the reason that everyone hates United.
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I despise Gary Neville more than Ferguson
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
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Lech, you just compared our greatest ever manager to Alex Ferguson!! Shanks was humble, funny, charming and was magnanimous in defeat. Shanks was the reason that nobody ((bar Evertonians) hated us during our glory years and Ferguson is the reason that everyone hates United.
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I despise Gary Neville more than Ferguson
I don't really think we have any genuine reason to dislike Ferguson. When he talks about Liverpool he is usually respectful.
It's not surprising that the Mancs like him, considering the success he has brought them over the past couple of decades, and I think if he had been our manager during the same period we would have loved him.
It's not surprising that the Mancs like him, considering the success he has brought them over the past couple of decades, and I think if he had been our manager during the same period we would have loved him.
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I don't really think we have any genuine reason to dislike Ferguson. When he talks about Liverpool he is usually respectful.
It's not surprising that the Mancs like him, considering the success he has brought them over the past couple of decades, and I think if he had been our manager during the same period we would have loved him.
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Portly, on the rare occasions that we lost under Shanks and Sir Bob neither of them ever attempted to make excuses. Even if we were missing Dalglish & Hansen for a game, in the after match interview if the interviewer asked did the injuries play a part in a defeat Sir Bob would always reject the notion and simply say "we lost because the other team played better".
This was the mantra for decades, if we lost a game it was due to the other teams performance and not injuries, refereeing errors, too many matches etc.
I will never knock Ferguson's record (I couldn't even if i wanted to) but I think he's a cunt.
I don't really think we have any genuine reason to dislike Ferguson. When he talks about Liverpool he is usually respectful.
It's not surprising that the Mancs like him, considering the success he has brought them over the past couple of decades, and I think if he had been our manager during the same period we would have loved him.
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Portly, on the rare occasions that we lost under Shanks and Sir Bob neither of them ever attempted to make excuses. Even if we were missing Dalglish & Hansen for a game, in the after match interview if the interviewer asked did the injuries play a part in a defeat Sir Bob would always reject the notion and simply say "we lost because the other team played better".
This was the mantra for decades, if we lost a game it was due to the other teams performance and not injuries, refereeing errors, too many matches etc.
I will never knock Ferguson's record (I couldn't even if i wanted to) but I think he's a cunt.
Yes, he is, and his behaviour has coarsened the game big-time. Shanks established a very similar type and degree of psychological ascendancy (Ferguson hmself is quite open about how much he learned from Shanks) but the difference is that Shanks managed to do it while retaining his humanity and balance. Portly's being too kind to that old b@stard Ferguson and, while that's normally an admirable thing, IMHO it's misplaced in this case.
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
My favourite Quote of his.
YNWA.
My favourite Quote of his.
YNWA.
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On a side note, I read with amusement yesterday the thread about RAWK posters, I have never been on their site but found it amusing at the stories of the lengths some posters go to to justify tactical decisions and their opinions about formations etc.
GKMacca posted up a list of Shanks' quotes and the one that caught my eye and I often quote is......................
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
This is as true today as it was in his day. So many people these days try and over-complicate things and really it's a very simple game; You try and sign the best players, you motivate them as best you can and then as Bill said it's all about pass-and-move.
The man was a genius.
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100% agree with this.
There are one or two on this site that are quilty of the same.
On a side note, I read with amusement yesterday the thread about RAWK posters, I have never been on their site but found it amusing at the stories of the lengths some posters go to to justify tactical decisions and their opinions about formations etc.
GKMacca posted up a list of Shanks' quotes and the one that caught my eye and I often quote is......................
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
This is as true today as it was in his day. So many people these days try and over-complicate things and really it's a very simple game; You try and sign the best players, you motivate them as best you can and then as Bill said it's all about pass-and-move.
The man was a genius.
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100% agree with this.
There are one or two on this site that are quilty of the same.
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37579.msg1003457#msg1003457 date=1259673585]
Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
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If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
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If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
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Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
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If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
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If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
Great quotes and anecdotes. Always love reading them even if I've read them before.
"Instead of me saying somebody was avaricious, I'd say he was bloody greedy. ..."
You tend to forget what a great mind he had until you read about him , and see those clips again.
If he had gone into politics instead of football he would have been a long standing prime minister, what a motivator and leader he was.
regards
You tend to forget what a great mind he had until you read about him , and see those clips again.
If he had gone into politics instead of football he would have been a long standing prime minister, what a motivator and leader he was.
regards
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And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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Spot on Macca, absolutely spot on.
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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Spot on Macca, absolutely spot on.
Tune into Shankly special tonight
3rd Dec 2009 - Latest News
A special tribute to mark 50 years since Bill Shankly's arrival at Anfield airs tonight on BBC Radio Merseyside.
The programme, presented by Alan Jackson, airs from 7pm to 9pm and special guests include Ian Callaghan and Ron Yeats.
There is some classic archive interviews from Shankly and the personalities closest to him.
You can also get involved in the show by phoning in on 0151 709 9333 or email jacko@bbc.co.uk
Tune into BBC Radio Merseyside tonight on 95.8 FM or 1485 MW.
3rd Dec 2009 - Latest News
A special tribute to mark 50 years since Bill Shankly's arrival at Anfield airs tonight on BBC Radio Merseyside.
The programme, presented by Alan Jackson, airs from 7pm to 9pm and special guests include Ian Callaghan and Ron Yeats.
There is some classic archive interviews from Shankly and the personalities closest to him.
You can also get involved in the show by phoning in on 0151 709 9333 or email jacko@bbc.co.uk
Tune into BBC Radio Merseyside tonight on 95.8 FM or 1485 MW.
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[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=37579.msg1003696#msg1003696 date=1259689852]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37579.msg1003457#msg1003457 date=1259673585]
Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
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If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
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If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
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Nuts to that. I grew up in Shanks' time and Mamma Mia has it spot on. Shanks was well capable of turning the air blue when the occasion demanded, and Chacal's stubbornness and penchant for vendettas would indeed have driven the great man spare.
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37579.msg1003457#msg1003457 date=1259673585]
Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
[/quote]
If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
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If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
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Nuts to that. I grew up in Shanks' time and Mamma Mia has it spot on. Shanks was well capable of turning the air blue when the occasion demanded, and Chacal's stubbornness and penchant for vendettas would indeed have driven the great man spare.
Another great Shanks line, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, came when he first met Ron Yeats (who we signed shortly after) in a hotel lobby. Shanks walked up to Yeats (who was 6'3" which was unusually tall back in the 60's)and without saying a word he began walking around him. He got around the back and said "By God man you must be 7 foot tall", Yeats answered "actually I'm only 6'3"" to which Shanks replied "That's close enough for me".
Bill Shankly 50th anniversary: 'Mr Liverpool'
By Telegraph staff
Published: 7:30AM GMT 01 Dec 2009
Tuesday is a half-century from the day Bill Shankly was confirmed as Liverpool manager. And the Merseyside club will be steeped in nostalgia over the coming days as they remember the man who changed the course of their history. There will even be a one-off anecdotal play at the Liverpool Empire on Dec 14, the first day that Shankly took training back in December 1959.
Heroes of the past in Ian Callaghan, Ron Yeats, Chris Lawler and Ian St John will take to the stage to tell their stories of Shankly, who died in September 1981. For Thompson, there are memories of the day Shankly signed him as a professional. The former England international went on to captain the 1981 European Cup-winning side in Paris ahead of a spell as assistant manager at the club.
Thompson's memories are still vivid, as the last of the young players Shankly nurtured from the club's youth ranks before he retired in 1974. Former defender Thompson, 55, said: "He will always be 'Mr Liverpool' to me." Shankly gave Thompson his debut at 17 and saw his protege claim an FA Cup winners' medal against Newcastle as a 20-year-old in 1974.
Thompson said: "He was everything to me. As a young kid growing up he was everything I could remember about the club. "By the time the '60s came around, when things started to really pick up, Liverpool was my life and Bill Shankly was my life. "They were the two things I lived for. Football was everything, Shanks' words just made you feel special, proud to be a Liverpool fan.
"You related the team to Shankly, that is all there was for us in those days. Liverpool were not then the super power they have become, but in Shankly's mind they already were. "I doubt anyone envisaged what Shankly had been sent to Liverpool to do." He added: "When I started there as a player, all everyone ever wanted to ask about was what Shankly had said to me. "They thought he was in some ivory tower and nobody got to speak to him. But he took a great interest in you and your well-being. "People said when you were injured he didn't want to know you. But one of my greatest memories of him was when I was injured.
"I was coming up 17, and that was when you would be asked to sign professional if you were lucky enough. "He came up to me when I was injured - there wasn't the medical help players have now, you were almost left to your own devices. "And he asked me how I was - he knew my birthday was due. He wanted me to know I was going to be signed as a professional. "The feeling he gave me then was everything, fantastic. The great man had actually taken time to reassure me and tell me I was going to be signed.
"I was the last of the Shankly boys, the kids coming through the club. I was the last youngster that he nurtured through the ranks. Soon I was just 20 and playing in the cup final.
"He had brought through the likes of Tommy Smith, Ian Callaghan, Chris Lawler and all the rest. I was the last one really.
"To be playing under Shankly as a 20-year-old was just a dream for a Liverpool fan like me. To go to work every day and listen to him. To know he trusted in me was just great."
By Telegraph staff
Published: 7:30AM GMT 01 Dec 2009
Tuesday is a half-century from the day Bill Shankly was confirmed as Liverpool manager. And the Merseyside club will be steeped in nostalgia over the coming days as they remember the man who changed the course of their history. There will even be a one-off anecdotal play at the Liverpool Empire on Dec 14, the first day that Shankly took training back in December 1959.
Heroes of the past in Ian Callaghan, Ron Yeats, Chris Lawler and Ian St John will take to the stage to tell their stories of Shankly, who died in September 1981. For Thompson, there are memories of the day Shankly signed him as a professional. The former England international went on to captain the 1981 European Cup-winning side in Paris ahead of a spell as assistant manager at the club.
Thompson's memories are still vivid, as the last of the young players Shankly nurtured from the club's youth ranks before he retired in 1974. Former defender Thompson, 55, said: "He will always be 'Mr Liverpool' to me." Shankly gave Thompson his debut at 17 and saw his protege claim an FA Cup winners' medal against Newcastle as a 20-year-old in 1974.
Thompson said: "He was everything to me. As a young kid growing up he was everything I could remember about the club. "By the time the '60s came around, when things started to really pick up, Liverpool was my life and Bill Shankly was my life. "They were the two things I lived for. Football was everything, Shanks' words just made you feel special, proud to be a Liverpool fan.
"You related the team to Shankly, that is all there was for us in those days. Liverpool were not then the super power they have become, but in Shankly's mind they already were. "I doubt anyone envisaged what Shankly had been sent to Liverpool to do." He added: "When I started there as a player, all everyone ever wanted to ask about was what Shankly had said to me. "They thought he was in some ivory tower and nobody got to speak to him. But he took a great interest in you and your well-being. "People said when you were injured he didn't want to know you. But one of my greatest memories of him was when I was injured.
"I was coming up 17, and that was when you would be asked to sign professional if you were lucky enough. "He came up to me when I was injured - there wasn't the medical help players have now, you were almost left to your own devices. "And he asked me how I was - he knew my birthday was due. He wanted me to know I was going to be signed as a professional. "The feeling he gave me then was everything, fantastic. The great man had actually taken time to reassure me and tell me I was going to be signed.
"I was the last of the Shankly boys, the kids coming through the club. I was the last youngster that he nurtured through the ranks. Soon I was just 20 and playing in the cup final.
"He had brought through the likes of Tommy Smith, Ian Callaghan, Chris Lawler and all the rest. I was the last one really.
"To be playing under Shankly as a 20-year-old was just a dream for a Liverpool fan like me. To go to work every day and listen to him. To know he trusted in me was just great."
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Another great Shanks line, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, came when he first met Ron Yeats (who we signed shortly after) in a hotel lobby. Shanks walked up to Yeats (who was 6'3" which was unusually tall back in the 60's)and without saying a word he began walking around him. He got around the back and said "By God man you must be 7 foot tall", Yeats answered "actually I'm only 6'3"" to which Shanks replied "That's close enough for me".
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Love it. Then, when Ron Yeats actually came down to sign the contract, Shanks' words to the assembled press were something like: "This is Ron Yeats. Come and take a walk around him."
Another great Shanks line, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, came when he first met Ron Yeats (who we signed shortly after) in a hotel lobby. Shanks walked up to Yeats (who was 6'3" which was unusually tall back in the 60's)and without saying a word he began walking around him. He got around the back and said "By God man you must be 7 foot tall", Yeats answered "actually I'm only 6'3"" to which Shanks replied "That's close enough for me".
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Love it. Then, when Ron Yeats actually came down to sign the contract, Shanks' words to the assembled press were something like: "This is Ron Yeats. Come and take a walk around him."
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37579.msg1003457#msg1003457 date=1259673585]
Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
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If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
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If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
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Nuts to that. I grew up in Shanks' time and Mamma Mia has it spot on. Shanks was well capable of turning the air blue when the occasion demanded, and Chacal's stubbornness and penchant for vendettas would indeed have driven the great man spare.
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penchant for vendettas :-X
You're mad Jules.
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37579.msg1003457#msg1003457 date=1259673585]
Finishing 2nd has become an achievement nowadays...
Great man Shankly.
[/quote]
If Bill was alive today, he'd call you a cunt. I won't, 'cos of the new rules and all.
[/quote]
If you think Shanks would call a fan a cunt you know nothing about the man.
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Nuts to that. I grew up in Shanks' time and Mamma Mia has it spot on. Shanks was well capable of turning the air blue when the occasion demanded, and Chacal's stubbornness and penchant for vendettas would indeed have driven the great man spare.
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penchant for vendettas :-X
You're mad Jules.
In your alternative universe, everybody is apart from you.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
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Give a fuck about Mourinho.
this threads about Shanks.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
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Give a fuck about Mourinho.
this threads about Shanks.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37579.msg1005104#msg1005104 date=1259848549]
In your alternative universe, everybody is apart from you.
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Im criticizing some of Rafa's football decisions on a Liverpool forum and you're talking about my altrnative universe ...
I've got Shanks quote about finishing 2nd in my signature for years...vendettas
Im wondering what you're on sometimes
In your alternative universe, everybody is apart from you.
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Im criticizing some of Rafa's football decisions on a Liverpool forum and you're talking about my altrnative universe ...
I've got Shanks quote about finishing 2nd in my signature for years...vendettas
Im wondering what you're on sometimes
"Some" of Rafa's footballing decisions? And you wonder what I'm on? That's your "alternative universe" right there.
As for vendettas, so far the charge sheet reads: Rafa, Kuyt, ctlovesred and Rafa4PM. If you want a detailed run-through for each name (despite the fact that you're guilty until proven innocent, in that universe of yours) I'll gladly accommodate you.
As for vendettas, so far the charge sheet reads: Rafa, Kuyt, ctlovesred and Rafa4PM. If you want a detailed run-through for each name (despite the fact that you're guilty until proven innocent, in that universe of yours) I'll gladly accommodate you.
I don't think a Bill Shankly thread deserves to be fucking ruined
Thankyouplease
Thankyouplease
Yeah, let's stick to the topic at hand please.
I coincidentally bought one of the few half-decent bits of pap from the club store as a token present for my step dad today, a pilsner beer glass that reads simply 'He made the people happy'.
The fact that such a simple quote can be so recognisable so many years on & yet is one of so, so many quotes from the great man is testament to what he created.
I coincidentally bought one of the few half-decent bits of pap from the club store as a token present for my step dad today, a pilsner beer glass that reads simply 'He made the people happy'.
The fact that such a simple quote can be so recognisable so many years on & yet is one of so, so many quotes from the great man is testament to what he created.
I should be a Mod
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I should be a Mod
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I don't think a Bill Shankly thread deserves to be fucking ruined
Thankyouplease
I should be a Mod
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I don't think a Bill Shankly thread deserves to be fucking ruined
Thankyouplease
*skulks off*
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