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Vlads Quiff

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50 years ago today when Liverpool started the journey of rising from the ashes

It would be wrong to let the day slip without a mention to Shanks the catalyst of so much


regards
 
Respect!

RIP

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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=37579.msg1003298#msg1003298 date=1259661519]
50 years ago today when Liverpool started the journey of rising from the ashes

It would be wrong to let the day slip without a mention to Shanks the catalyst of so much


regards
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I saw this article but I think it is rightly to be started by a real scouser.

YNWA.

Warm Regards.
 
What a brilliant idea for a thread. Top marks Vlad.

Shanks was the giant on whose shoulders every Liverpool player and fan still stands today. Macca's spot on - he was a great man, and his greatness lives on in English football's most successful club. When, that's WHEN we start winning titles again I'll spare more than one thought for William James Shankly of Glenbuck, Ayrshire.

Bill Shankly YNWA.
 
Some of his sayings:


"My idea was to build Liverpool into a bastion of invincibility. Napoleon had that idea. He wanted to conquer the bloody world. I wanted Liverpool to be untouchable. My idea was to build Liverpool up and up until eventually everyone would have to submit and give in."

Above all, I would like to be remembered as a man who was selfless, who strove and worried so that others could share the glory, and who built up a family of people who could hold their heads up high and say, 'We're Liverpool'.

Pressure is working down the pit. Pressure is having no work at all. Pressure is trying to escape relegation on 50 shillings a week. Pressure is not the European Cup or the Championship or the Cup Final. That's the reward.'

'What a great day for football, all we need is some green grass and a ball'.

'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

'The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.'

'Me having no education. I had to use my brains.'

"We murdered them 0-0."

'Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of red strength'.

On awaiting Everton's arrival at Anfield, he gave a box of toilet rolls to the doorman and said: "Give them these when they arrive - they'll need them!"

If Everton were playing at the bottom of the garden, I'd pull the curtains

'Yes Roger Hunt misses a few, but he gets in the right place to miss them'.

'Liverpool was made for me and I was made for Liverpool.'

'If you can't make decisions in life, you're a bloody menace. You'd be better off becoming an MP!'

A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe that you are the best and then make sure that you are. In my time at Liverpool we always said we had the best two teams in Merseyside, Liverpool and Liverpool reserves.'

'The difference between Everton and the Queen Mary is that Everton carry more passengers!'

Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.

[On hearing Lou Macari had snubbed LFC for the mancs] 'He couldn't play anyway. I only wanted him for the reserve team!'

'Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present, it was her birthday. Would I have got married in the football season? Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.'

'A football team is like a piano. You need eight men to carry it and three who can play the damn thing."

'The socialism I believe in is not really politics; it is humanity, a way of living and sharing the rewards'

After the 5:1 defeat by Ajax in the European Cup in 1967:'Five-one...Aye, that should help them to make agame of it when they come to Anfield for the 2nd leg.'

'At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques'

[After Alan Ball signed for Everton] 'Don't worry Alan. At least you'll be able to play close to a great team!'

'Alot of football success is in the mind. You must believe you are the best and then make sure that you are.'

[To Tommy Lawrence after he let the ball go through his legs for a goal]
Lawrence: 'Sorry boss I should have kept my legs closed'.
Shankly: 'Don't worry, son, its not your fault - it was your Mother who should have kept her legs closed!'

'Aim for the sky and you'll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you'll stay on the floor.'

'If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards'.

'If you are first you are first. If you are second you are nothing.'



[On his decision to retire] 'It was the most difficult thing in the world, when I went to tell the chairman. It was like walking to the electric chair. That's the way it felt.'

I'm just one of the people who stands on the kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other.
 
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Pressure is working down the pit. Pressure is having no work at all. Pressure is trying to escape relegation on 50 shillings a week. Pressure is not the European Cup or the Championship or the Cup Final. That's the reward.'
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My new sig.
 
"People tell me that Everton have fitba' in the bludd. Well, they must have bad circulation 'coz it hasnae reached their feet yet."
 
Craig Bellamy writes:

How do, lads, all right? I just wanted to share my own favourite story about Shanks. It's one from the sixties about the talented young Scottish lad who turned up at Anfield some two stones underweight. Shankly and Bob Paisley shook their heads and, as they usually did in such circumstances, decided to build up his strength with steaks - at least three big ones every day.
A few months later, the youngster approached Shanks with an embarrassed request. Could he have next Saturday off? Bill was bemused. What, son? Saturday? Match day? Why? The lad took ages to answer but, finally, it came out. He was getting married. His girlfriend was expecting a baby. Shanks stared at him for several moments. Then he called in Paisley. 'You know what we've done with all that steak, Bob?' he said. "We've created a monster!"
 
What a man.

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Manager Bill Shankly achieved immortal status. The Kop idolised the remarkable Scot, he idolised the Kop and it was a love affair made in heaven.

This image from April 1973 sums up that respect. Shanks thanks the Kop, almost in a prayer. Before or since, there has never been such a bond of mutual respect between a football boss and his supporters.
 
Much is made of the near-religious experience of supporting a football team.

This is particularly true of supproting Liverpool and standing on the old Kop.

To take this argument to it's logical origin, Shanks was our Abraham.
 
There are few advantages to being an old bastard but one of them is that I am old enough to remember the glory days under Shanks. By Glory days obviously I am not inferring that we won nearly as many trophies as we did under Sir Bob Paisley but glory days because it became evident in the early 70's that something magical was happening. He was everything you would wish your manager to be, charismatic, charming, funny, gregarious, empathetic and most of all a man-of-the-people.

Thanks for EVERYTHING Bill.
 
Bill Shankly became the manager of Liverpool in December 1959. He is remembered by Liverpool fans as one of our greatest-ever managers, along with Bob Paisley.

In 1959, Liverpool were at the bottom of the old Second Division, with a crumbling stadium, poor training facilities and a large but poor-quality squad. The quality of the backroom staff was undeniable, though with Paisley and Joe Fagan in tow. The Liverpool Bootroom, one of the famous institutions in the football world, was born.

The training ground at Melwood was in a terrible state, overgrown and with only one mains water tap. Shankly turned this into a positive, by getting the players to arrive instead at Anfield, and then bus them over to Melwood, developing team camaraderie.

'Slowly at first, and then with gathering pace, Shankly and his backroom team turned Liverpool around'

At Melwood, Shankly introduced fitness training including diet assessment, and skills training including using an artificial goal painted on a wall, split into eight sections which he would demand the players use to improve accuracy. For playing practice, Shankly introduced five-a-side games that so defined his football thinking - pass and move, keep it simple. After training, the team would all bus back to Anfield together to shower, change and eat a communal meal. This way Shankly ensured all his players had warmed down correctly and he would keep his players free from injury.

Slowly at first, and then with a gathering pace, Shankly and his backroom team turned Liverpool around. The Liverpool crowd sensed a wave of change on Merseyside. At the time, Liverpool were Merseyside's poor second team. Everton had supremacy on Merseyside. With new signings Ron Yeats and Ian St. John, Liverpool gained promotion back to the top flight in 1962. That was the first target for Shankly; the next was far greater.

Liverpool hadn't won the League title for almost 15 years. With local players like Ian Callaghan and Tommy Smith added to the team, Liverpool won their sixth league title in their second season after promotion. It was a vindication of the ethics Shankly had built around the club. Success continued at Anfield for almost four decades since his arrival to the last League title in 1990. In his reign as manager of Liverpool, Shankly had an impressive honours list:
1962 - Second Division champions
1964 - First Division champions
1965 - FA Cup Winners, European Champions' Cup semi-finalists.
1966 - First Division champions, European Cup Winners Cup beaten finalists.
1969 - First Division runners-up.
1971 - FA Cup beaten finalists, Inter-Cities Fairs Cup semi-finalists.
1973 - First Division champions, UEFA Cup winners.
1974 - FA Cup winners, First Division runners-up.

His record match-by-match was an incredible testament to his footballing philosophy: Played 753, won 393, lost 175, drew 185 with a winning percentage of 52.19%.

His relationship with the fans is well known. Due to his working-class background, Shankly had a strong feeling for how the fans followed the team and wanted them to perform. He felt he was letting the fans down when the team didn't do well.

One of the most iconic images of him was caught on television, when a Liverpool scarf which had been thrown at Shankly during a lap of honour was flung to one side by a policeman, in April 1973, when he and the team were showing off the League Championship trophy to the Kop. Shankly pounced on the scarf and reprimanded the copper, uttering the immortal words "Don't do that. This might be someone's life".

When he resigned in July 1974, he made one statement that typified the humbleness of the legendary status he commanded: "I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool." He said that going to tell the chairman of his decision was like facing the electric chair.

When news of Shankly's resignation first emerged, distraught fans jammed the club's switchboard and at least one local factory's workers threatened to go on strike unless their hero returned.
Shankly was awarded the OBE in November 1974. He even went regularly to Melwood to watch the team train. He continued to live in the terraced house that he and his wife had bought when they moved to Liverpool, and he was a regular sight around the city, happy and willing to talk to anyone about football.

The fact he should have been given a knighthood along with legends like Paisley, Jock Stein, Brian Clough and Fagan is a disgrace.

On the morning of 26 September, 1981, Shankly was admitted to Broadgreen Hospital after a heart attack. While in hospital he insisted on being nursed in an ordinary ward, not a private one. There was no suggestion that his life was in danger. The switchboard was jammed with concerned fans and prayers were said for him in the Sunday morning and evening services at both of the Anglican and Catholic Cathedrals. However, late on 28 September Shankly unexpectedly took a turn for the worst and died, aged 68, at 1.20am on 29 September 1981. He was cremated, and his ashes buried at the Anfield Crematorium on 2 October.

Sir Matt Busby, a Legend in his own right also, was so upset when he heard the news of Shankly's death that he refused to take any telephone calls from people asking him for a reaction. Some years before his death, Shankly had paid tribute to Busby, saying that he was "greatest football manager ever".

On the first game at Anfield following his funeral, a banner was unfurled on the Kop which read "Shankly Lives Forever". Bill Shankly was made an inaugural inductee of the English Football Hall of Fame in 2002, in recognition of his impact on the English game as a manager.

Recently, a Liverpool Supporters Union was set up in the name of the man, Sons of Shankly. Formed to maintain the philosophy he instilled in Liverpool FC, which is still burning bright among the supporters today.
Bill Shankly, may you never walk alone, R.I.P.

Alan Breen

The scarf story has always been my favourite.
 
On a side note, I read with amusement yesterday the thread about RAWK posters, I have never been on their site but found it amusing at the stories of the lengths some posters go to to justify tactical decisions and their opinions about formations etc.

GKMacca posted up a list of Shanks' quotes and the one that caught my eye and I often quote is......................

'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

This is as true today as it was in his day. So many people these days try and over-complicate things and really it's a very simple game; You try and sign the best players, you motivate them as best you can and then as Bill said it's all about pass-and-move.


The man was a genius.
 
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
 
Mourinho wouldn't come to the club in its current state. He would only go to a club that could guarantee him a big transfer budget.
 
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37579.msg1003520#msg1003520 date=1259677303]
And a big difference between him and Mourinho is that Shanks was obsessed with his club, not himself. When Mourinho retires there'll be plenty of commemorative quotes but most of them will be all about himself.
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I take it you dont want Mourinho at our club.
Sadly, managers like Shanks dont really exist anymore I agree...Ferguson being the only one maybe.
Beside Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho are the best managers at the moment.
Capello has always been my 1st choice but he said England would be his last job.
Mourinho is the obvious pick then.
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Lech, you just compared our greatest ever manager to Alex Ferguson!! Shanks was humble, funny, charming and was magnanimous in defeat. Shanks was the reason that nobody ((bar Evertonians) hated us during our glory years and Ferguson is the reason that everyone hates United.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37579.msg1003558#msg1003558 date=1259679735]
I grew up in the Paisley era, but I'm a signed up member of the Shanks cult.
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That could be taken two ways. 😉
 
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