Big Virg
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I like how Van Dijk rocked in and the price tag seemed irrelevant to him. It might weigh a different player down but not Big Virg.
I hadn't seen much of him before he signed, was he always at this level or has elevated his game to another level around better players?
The great news is that that price tag hasn't become an embarrassment, but he wears it like a pimp wearing a deep purple thigh-length coat with fur trim.
He totally owned Firmino in a game against Southampton, I remember that. We couldn't get past him at all, he was imperious.
VVD Is excellent.
The only defender I would rate up alongside or above him is that Varane at Real...
Who had a mare the other night...
The only defender I would rate up alongside or above him is that Varane at Real...
Who had a mare the other night...
Nope. For myriad reasons.
He's brilliant, and he's got more to show of his game. He can start more attacks, he can score more goals from corners, and he can absolutely blast shots in from free kicks. So, fingers crossed, he'll impress even more as the season progresses. But some players don't just shine, they also stamp their signature all over their area of the pitch, and he's done that. It's great that we waited for him and didn't give up.
Top, top marks to Klopp for all this. He knew what we needed, he held out for it and - perhaps most important of all - he made such an impression on the player that the guy was only ever really interested in joining us despite the fact that other top clubs were also after him.
It has all been said, but he just exudes that incredible air of calm authority that has had an extraordinary effect on our team. He was exactly what we needed, not just a great physical specimen, but a leader of men- he's as alpha as it comes. You just look at him and know Daddy is taking care of business.
Alderweireld maybe?
Based on an admittedly very small sample so far, Gomez in particular looks to be benefiting big time from playing alongside him.
He doesn't have the leadership qualities does he, and at 6'1" he's not the giant at set-pieces that big Virg is? I think a fully fit Kompany has the leadership, but I don't think there are any defenders that combine the physicality with leadership in the way big Virg does. Gary Neville compared his arrival in the Liverpool backline with the effect Staam had when he came to united. That's the kind of comparison I think he warrants.
Yep. Those three (Allison, VVD & Gomez) are so fucking calm & collected its unreal.
Lovely to see.
Gomez will mistakes cos he's young, but fuck it, Lovren will make mistakes cos he's Lovren, & Gomez suits our style of play much better, plus we know he has another level to come as he gets more experience, whereas Lovren doesn't.
Let's face it, if you want to blood a young CB, doing it alongside one of the best CB's in the world, with a keeper who can always take the ball at his feet to relief pressure, & has Keita always showing for the ball in front of him, is absolutely perfect.
Not to disagree exactly, but IMHO Virgil is a far better player. Stam was very quick after the first ten yards but a nippy striker playing on his shoulder could do him during those first ten (Owen did it more than once and Baros made a monkey out of Stam too one time in an international). He could get up to really high balls but had a 50-pence-piece head so his clearing headers went all over the place. Last but not least his distribution, including from dead ball kicks, was poor. None of that applies to Virgil. I always thought Stam's success owed as much to the fact that few ever dared to attack that United side as it did to his own qualities.
I was thinking about this the other day. He's certainly the best in league. In fact any club in the world would want him. Sure 75Mill but that bought Pace, Skill, Strength, Good in the air, position and general defensive nous but crucially he's also a leader (future captain for sure) - He also seems a genuinely nice fella. If anyone sky+ed the game on Monday check out him at final whistle. He went straight up to Gomez. Had a few words in his ear and you could tell he was congratulating him and just being ace. The only blot on the landscape as far as I can see is that injury he had. I fucking hope that doesn't happen again soon because frankly he's irreplaceable.
Dissension is allowed JJ. I suppose Ratboy was probably referencing the calmness and organisation that Staam brought to Utd.
Who was his biggest critic on here ?
yeah, it is. obviously theres an argument for who is better of of virg and varane etc, but there are other things to take into account such as communication. i have no idea if Varane speaks english and if he doesnt, it would be a lot to ask of him to come in and immediately lead this defence
edit - meant to quote themanwithnoname
edit - meant to quote themanwithnoname
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