One match ban seems suitable punishment for being such a dumb cunt. You use WhatsApp for a joke between mates not a platform where millions can see it.
Bernardo Silva charged by FA
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Got to say I agree with that last bit - and if Mendy didn't find the tweet offensive, who the heck is anybody else to tell him he should have? Paternalistic much?
It is a fair point, and I'm glad you can say it here without accusing me of being a group-thinker with a herd mentality!
Yea but there’s always the guy that is the butt of these jokes and just grins and takes it for whatever reason.
Maybe because he’s new at the club, doesn’t know the language, doesn’t have other friends in the team or just don’t want to be seen to cause problems for the club but Mendy may very well hate this banter but says nothing.
Maybe because he’s new at the club, doesn’t know the language, doesn’t have other friends in the team or just don’t want to be seen to cause problems for the club but Mendy may very well hate this banter but says nothing.
happens all of the time. its generally the nature of friendship.
if you want to believe bernado was being racist then go for it. i just dont think he was.
If SIlva had said what he said to Mendy privately, knowing Mendy would treat it as a joke, then its not a problem. But he didn't - he did it in a public environment, so, to be honest, Mendy's individual reaction to the comment is just about irrelevant.
If I was walking down a busy Granby Street, saw a black mate of mine and shouted out "Hi, you fucking n****" (which he himself does not object to, as we are mates and he knows I am joking) do I deserve to get my head kicked in?
(The answer is "yes")
If I was walking down a busy Granby Street, saw a black mate of mine and shouted out "Hi, you fucking n****" (which he himself does not object to, as we are mates and he knows I am joking) do I deserve to get my head kicked in?
(The answer is "yes")
Oh he's definitely an idiot for making it public
The answer is "no". You're an idiot for doing it, but if being an idiot were a reason for getting your head kicked in we'd all be in hospital, not chatting sh!t on here.
I'm sorry JJ - I love you dearly, but I disagree with you totally on this.
If you say something that may be deemed racist in a public environment then you immediately open yourself for justified criticism and attack, even if the individual target of what you are saying does not see it as such.
I'm not actually arguing what Silva said was (or could be construed to be) racist - that is a different discussion - but I am saying that what he may say in private to an individual can have a very different impact and interpretation if he says it to the same individual publicly.
If you say something that may be deemed racist in a public environment then you immediately open yourself for justified criticism and attack, even if the individual target of what you are saying does not see it as such.
I'm not actually arguing what Silva said was (or could be construed to be) racist - that is a different discussion - but I am saying that what he may say in private to an individual can have a very different impact and interpretation if he says it to the same individual publicly.
Tom,
Criticism or attack: certainly, hence my own reference to "you're an idiot for doing it". Where you and I continue to differ (and I rate you highly as a poster also), is in how to respond to such idiocy.
I've never bought into the principle that the best response to such things is by (even metaphorically) "kicking someone's head in" and criminalising such nonsense, for two reasons. One: I suspect it entrenches the racist mindset among those boneheads prone to it in the first place. Two: however unacceptable such ways of thinking may be to most of us nowadays, I am not and will never be in favour of attempts by any authority to tell us what to think, which strike me as Orwell's thought police come to life. Anyone shouting the "n" word in the street would be despised for it and backs would be turned in his or her direction. I don't think formalising that response would make it any more effective - and that goes double for any situation, like this one, in which the supposed victim has come out and said he wasn't offended in the first place.
Criticism or attack: certainly, hence my own reference to "you're an idiot for doing it". Where you and I continue to differ (and I rate you highly as a poster also), is in how to respond to such idiocy.
I've never bought into the principle that the best response to such things is by (even metaphorically) "kicking someone's head in" and criminalising such nonsense, for two reasons. One: I suspect it entrenches the racist mindset among those boneheads prone to it in the first place. Two: however unacceptable such ways of thinking may be to most of us nowadays, I am not and will never be in favour of attempts by any authority to tell us what to think, which strike me as Orwell's thought police come to life. Anyone shouting the "n" word in the street would be despised for it and backs would be turned in his or her direction. I don't think formalising that response would make it any more effective - and that goes double for any situation, like this one, in which the supposed victim has come out and said he wasn't offended in the first place.
But by making his comments public, the "supposed victim" went from being one person to the whole world. Unfortunately thats a line people, especially those in the public eye, have to manage.
BTW, as an aside as it is is not really relevant here - I am a supporter of Trotsky's approach to fascists (*) , which is "to acquaint their heads with the pavement"
(* fascists, NOT necessarily racists)
BTW, as an aside as it is is not really relevant here - I am a supporter of Trotsky's approach to fascists (*) , which is "to acquaint their heads with the pavement"
(* fascists, NOT necessarily racists)
Yeah, but then the people Trotsky decides are fascists want to acquaint other people with pavements too.
Can't we all just .. get along ?
Can't we all just .. get along ?
I do actually have an 'Ageing hippy' sweatshirt, which my kids bought me. 🙂
My mind is entirely taken over by thoughts of peace and love (except when I'm playing with my katana ...).
My mind is entirely taken over by thoughts of peace and love (except when I'm playing with my katana ...).
"(except when I'm playing with my katana "
Dirty bugger 😱
(goes off to Google WTF a katana is)
"(except when I'm playing with my katana "
Dirty bugger 😱
(goes off to Google WTF a katana is)
My Katana is bigger than yours!
"It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it." 🙂
As a woman once politely told me: "It doesn't depend on the size of your ship but how it rides the ocean." I think She meant as some compliment while I took it differently
I’d rather have a massive ship to be honest.
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