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Rafa every day for me.
Mourinho's philosophy of football is pretty crap really.
Yes he has won some titles but without all the money in world (Chelsea) or with by far the best team (Inter last Season) he's really nothing special at all.
He's building his star-player smothered teams into defensive masterpieces who are not only extremely tiresome to watch but also extremely negative in their approach.
E.g. I don't want to see us defend from the first whistle at home in the Champions League against any team, not even Barca, like Inter did midweek. Abysmal to watch.
I'm baffled that anyone would want this Mourinho-football-crap to Anfield really.
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That's a very incomplete and misleading round-up, as is your ludicrous further post. Mourinho won not only his home league but the CL itself with Porto, largely a bunch of junkyard dogs. He took on an already strong but underachieving Chelsea squad, bought the right players (NOT easy to do, however much money he had), blended them all into a coherent unit and won the league for the first time in half a century in no time flat. He had more competition at Inter than you claim, but kept the title there despite being new to the players, the league and the country. It's true that his style isn't exciting, but it IS effective. Mourinho is a proven winner of league titles, and I want the title back more than anything.
As for your juvenile and overheated further post:
1. I didn't say I wanted Mourinho in preference to Rafa. That's because I don't.
2. I didn't even say he was my first choice to replace Rafa if Rafa goes - on the contrary I made it clear that Hiddink would be.
Take a chill pill and try reading what's actually in front of you for a change.
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You wrote that Mourinho knows how to win titles too. Wasn't this comment meant in comparison to Rafa? As in Rafa doesn't?
If not then my bad.
I'm curious though, are you aware of a pill that make people read more thorough? Have you tried them?
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What's wrong with that comparison,in fairness?
We don't compete in La Liga.
Maureen has won it twice.
Rafa hasn't.
Having said that, I really have no clue whether Id prefer him to Rafa.
Mourinho is a good manager, and he knows how to win the one thing we want.
But he will demand massive financial support, and will be a very disruptive influence in a club which already behaves as if it's in a soap opera.
To me, there's only ONE area in which he easily surpasses Rafa...his ability to get his players playing for him, and to forge that winning mind-set.
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I really think that the highlighted bit is a load of bollocks. Our record in europe is incredible under him and it's not just the record. It's the way we play that's so anally instructed by Rafa. Our team would be losing for fun for 5 years if the players weren't playing for him due to our reliance on his tactics. We wouldn't have won the amount of games we did last season had it not been for our players not having the winning mentality.
As good a manager as Mourihno is, I really don't understand the obsession with him when we have an equally good manager. The amount of money spent by Chelsea before and during Mourinho's reign is something I'm convinced would have given Benitez an equal success rate at should he have been in his shoes. Plus Mourinho's a twat.
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Rafa's going to have to bring the Prem title home before anyone can say with any certainty that he's an equally good manager in English football, which is pretty clearly what Avvy was referring to. The money the Chavs have spent has certainly given them a big head start, but it still had to be used wisely and the new signings still had to be integrated into the team, neither of which is a given (as Real among others have proven in the past).
Nobody's obsessed with Mourinho, except perhaps the man himself. All some of us are saying is that he's a proven winner whose record demands more respect than some on here seem willing to give him.
