[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46833.msg1397840#msg1397840 date=1315787423]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46833.msg1397832#msg1397832 date=1315782908]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46833.msg1397827#msg1397827 date=1315781652]
The level of improvement that is going to be required from AC to make him actually worth £35 million is going to have to be considerable.
Anyway, fuck it. Let's hope he comes good.
[/quote]Look man, at the same age:
Andriy Shevchenko was at Dinamo Kiev.
Ruud van Nistlerooy was at Heerenveen
Thierry Henry was at Monaco
David Villa was at Sporting Gijon
Didier Drogba was at Le Mans
David Trezeguet was at Monaco
Christian Vieri was at Venezia
The difference with the game then (only a decade ago) and now is that you cannot afford to wait before signing these kind of players. You see a spark and you sign them YOUNG. A decade ago you wait until they establish themselves and then you invest. The fact that Tottenham (in the same transfer window) had 28m turned down for Carroll tells you all you need to know.
We couldnt wait for him to become the player we think he will be, or he would be gone. We have signed a player who we going to have to nurture to become that player. Yes we have paid a premium, but only time will tell if it was wrong to do so.
I just think people need to have more patience these days. Look at Lucas and what he is becoming! Look at Adam expelled from Rangers. Look at Nani and Anderson laughed at at times in the last 3 years. Look at Carragher being written off after 2 mistakes.
One of the best things Fergie does is has faith in his players. It make take years for a player to come good but he waits and eventually you see the Anderson, Nani, Ronaldo, Park etc come through. We have been a revolving door club for so long we have forgotten what its like to trust our players to improve. Its in with the new and out with the old before a season is up these days.
We've invested in him, we've stuck our neck out and signed a player that we think will be world class. Now we just have to wait and have faith in the lad (and the management and coaching teams) to come good.
I saw enough of him at Newcastle to believe he will be a great player one day, and part of a great team. I hope our fans give him the time to prove me right, and i hope Kenny believes in him more than the managers we have had in the past decade who would give you half a season and then be looking for the next big thing.
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Two things to say in reply to that Oncy....
Carroll will never be as good or prolific as any of this guys you mentioned.
Outside of 'Arry who else was looking for Carroll? He's not exactly the best example to give.
[/quote]I honestly dont know why i bother.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46833.msg1397832#msg1397832 date=1315782908]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46833.msg1397827#msg1397827 date=1315781652]
The level of improvement that is going to be required from AC to make him actually worth £35 million is going to have to be considerable.
Anyway, fuck it. Let's hope he comes good.
[/quote]Look man, at the same age:
Andriy Shevchenko was at Dinamo Kiev.
Ruud van Nistlerooy was at Heerenveen
Thierry Henry was at Monaco
David Villa was at Sporting Gijon
Didier Drogba was at Le Mans
David Trezeguet was at Monaco
Christian Vieri was at Venezia
The difference with the game then (only a decade ago) and now is that you cannot afford to wait before signing these kind of players. You see a spark and you sign them YOUNG. A decade ago you wait until they establish themselves and then you invest. The fact that Tottenham (in the same transfer window) had 28m turned down for Carroll tells you all you need to know.
We couldnt wait for him to become the player we think he will be, or he would be gone. We have signed a player who we going to have to nurture to become that player. Yes we have paid a premium, but only time will tell if it was wrong to do so.
I just think people need to have more patience these days. Look at Lucas and what he is becoming! Look at Adam expelled from Rangers. Look at Nani and Anderson laughed at at times in the last 3 years. Look at Carragher being written off after 2 mistakes.
One of the best things Fergie does is has faith in his players. It make take years for a player to come good but he waits and eventually you see the Anderson, Nani, Ronaldo, Park etc come through. We have been a revolving door club for so long we have forgotten what its like to trust our players to improve. Its in with the new and out with the old before a season is up these days.
We've invested in him, we've stuck our neck out and signed a player that we think will be world class. Now we just have to wait and have faith in the lad (and the management and coaching teams) to come good.
I saw enough of him at Newcastle to believe he will be a great player one day, and part of a great team. I hope our fans give him the time to prove me right, and i hope Kenny believes in him more than the managers we have had in the past decade who would give you half a season and then be looking for the next big thing.
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[/quote]
Two things to say in reply to that Oncy....
Carroll will never be as good or prolific as any of this guys you mentioned.
Outside of 'Arry who else was looking for Carroll? He's not exactly the best example to give.
[/quote]I honestly dont know why i bother.
