Barca Fucked?
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This is a really vile club, especially considering the circumstsmcews in which Barcelona got him in the first place ...
I thought they were also getting Alonso. This is amusing, but also a bit fucked that they can buy players when they already have unregistered players. There needs to be a tightening of the rules.
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Hopefully de Jong holds out for the full amount. Says enough about what kinda fans barca have the way they booed Braithwaite the other day. Blaming the players for the money they are on ffs, like they are the reason they are in the shit they are in. Their fans are right there with city for being absolute cunts.
Boot the pricks out of Europe and La Liga should stand firm on player registration.
Make them loan the new signings out for the season until they pay their debts.
I presume they can’t unilaterally cancel player contracts either.
Make them loan the new signings out for the season until they pay their debts.
I presume they can’t unilaterally cancel player contracts either.
Good man, de Jongh. Barcelona has been getting away with publicly tapping other clubs’ players for years, and now wants to have its cake and eat it with players’ contracts—- contracts it co-signed.
I hope they never win the League again.
Couple of dick heads, which you get everywhere. So I am not ready to castigate their fan base.
Not just the fans, but the way they treat players (which in turn caused the vicious cycle to escalate/worsen) and manage their finance.
And it's not "couple of" - plenty of deluded and "self-entitled" ones
http://sixcrazyminutes.com/threads/barca-fucked.187531/page-8#post-2156667
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You're right. This is the very argument I use when people slag off SCM on the basis of Moron & Bluebellend posts
I reckon Gazza would have done a better job at running Barca. Okay you got me... that's proper delusional. Totally clueless how much of a shit hole their club is in.
And xavi doesn't think he's bought enough yet
https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelo...says-after-disappointing-draw-to-start-laliga
https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelo...says-after-disappointing-draw-to-start-laliga
When you see this then you get entitled apparently salt of the earth fans whom seem to think they can treat some players how they like because they earn 60k a week.
This feels very much like Barca doing a “Leeds” @Beamrider - doesn’t that stack up - massive contracts leveraged against future income & success?
I'm a little bit torn on this to be honest. From where they are now, selling a small proportion of their future media income made some sense - the structure of the deal wasn't dissimilar to a loan - up-front cash receipt and then an annual payment for a fixed period of time (albeit the payment would ramp up with inflation). That didn't seem too cavalier in and of itself.
But then the stupidity comes in, as we find out more - that they'd sold a bigger proportion of the rights than they originally admitted, and that they'd tried to be cute and sell some of those rights to themselves to realise an artificial profit (and probably just ended up triggering a tax liability). And then, rather than steadying the ship, they go throwing their money around at risky players - either unproven at their level (Raphinha, Kessie, even Kounde and Christensen to a degree, the latter having not really been regular at Chelsea), or in the case of Lewandowski, proven but on borrowed time. All the while still not paying their own players because, it turns out, they didn't agree pay "cuts" with them as they said, they just agreed deferrals, and those wages are getting closer to falling due. So all the while they're clocking up bigger and bigger liabilities and they can't / won't pay them because they've spent all their money on those risky player investments. And those wage levels are insane.
Which is all very Leeds, as you say.
But on a domestic level, there's less risk involved than there was with Leeds because their own league is less competitive, and they even still qualified for the Champions League last year after an absolute shit-show of a season. Whereas the issue with Leeds was they spent money expecting / needing to qualify for the Champions League when the odds were against them doing so.
So they're acting irresponsibly, but the downside risk for them is lower.
And then, against all of this, I just have a sneaking suspicion that the La Liga rules might be a bit draconian - by which I mean the rules seem to bite very hard very quickly, risking pushing clubs into a greater level of financial crisis and forcing fire sales of players to get within very testing wage constraints. Maybe that's because they're intended as a deterrent and the other clubs realise that the risk of falling foul of the rules is so great that they just don't go there. But Barca, proud Barca, Mes que un club, just couldn't help themselves, believing La Liga would make an exception for them.
So, on balance, fuck them. Victims of their own arrogance.
Are the Spanish also generally tougher on corruption/tax evasion than other countries? Is there a reason why if so - some cultural trait perhaps? Shaqira seems to be the latest big name that now owes big bucks - I don’t recall many rich celebrities and cultural icons being so inconvenienced by other countries.
They're definitely much hotter on celebrities using off-shore companies than the UK authorities. In the UK, there was a tax case around the concept of image rights (which centred on David Platt and Dennis Bergkamp, who had set up image rights structures during their time in Italy) and the ruling established that such structures were legal. The approach of the UK authorities, reluctantly, has largely been dictated by that case. I'm guessing there is no such precedent in Spain (and the UK ruling has no bearing on Spanish law).
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