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I hope he plays against Stoke.

If we are to get the best out of him, then Rafa needs to show a little faith in the lad.
 
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Nobody's laying the blame at Babel's door.

They're merely saying he was shit, because he was.

And it's becoming a continuing trend.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]Your opinion on babel means nothing. You're laughably biased.
 
Serious question, is there any other player that despite how bad they play people still want to "give a chance" too?

Le Tallec maybe? (though he never played THAT bad really)
 
Somebody tell me please, how many seasons has Babel 'had potential' with us yet remained more or less a complete waste of space?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

For once Spidey i agree with you.

Babel, Kuyt, SG and Torres were all equally shite today.

Babel has looked quite good in pre season, so i hope he gets another go at home this week. We should at least give him every chance to succeed this season, playing him in one game and then bombing him out won't help us or Babel.
 
oh, and obviously if he does play against Stoke and scores 5 it will be marvelous, I just don't see it and don't see how he would deserve to start ahead of Yossi or Riera.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35277.msg926015#msg926015 date=1250457438]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]Your opinion on babel means nothing. You're laughably biased.
[/quote]

I'm biased but I call a spade a spade I'm not blinkered to think babel wasn't poor for most of last season and poor today. I get that, I understand that but you'd think he was largly responsible for the dross dished up today, like he was the reason team mates couldn't find each other, or he was the reason our defenders were all over the place or he was the reason there was no urgency whatsoever until the first goal went in.

to be honest I didn't want babel to start today and I don't want him to start against stoke either it wont help his confidence but all I care about is points on the board and right now there are better options than babel, I'm not biased enough to be able to admit that
 
I hope Rafa doesn't play him against Stoke, because he's quite clearly, despite the usual sympathisers, really fucking shit.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926033#msg926033 date=1250458384]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35277.msg926015#msg926015 date=1250457438]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]Your opinion on babel means nothing. You're laughably biased.
[/quote]
I understand that but you'd think he was largly responsible for the dross dished up today, like he was the reason team mates couldn't find each other, or he was the reason our defenders were all over the place or he was the reason there was no urgency whatsoever until the first goal went in.
[/quote]If you can find one post by me that lays the blame at his door id be astonished. I'll help you out, there arent any. So youre talking rubbish.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
[/quote]

the TEAM was rubbish today so why single out individuals? do you want me to list all the things I thought torres, carra etc did wrong today? yeah they've been great in the past so they get a pass while the usual scapegoats take the absue. oh, for someone who has 'no game intelligence' I saw babel take up several excellent position but was missed by some uttterly utterly idiotic passing decisions from midfield.

you want to call him shit, fine.
you don't want him to start v stoke, fine.
but lets not fucking make out babel was the only person who put in a shit performance today, if you want I can name and shame the players and list the things they were doing poorly.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.


[/quote]

*Coughs*

Lucas
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926051#msg926051 date=1250459158]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
[/quote]

the TEAM was rubbish today so why single out individuals, do you want me to list all the things I thought torres, carra etc did wrong today. yeah they've been great in the past so they get a pass while the usual scapegoats take the absue. oh, for someone who has 'no game intelligence' I saw babel take up several excellent position but was missed by someone uttterly utterly idiotic passing decisions midfield.

you want to call him shit, fine.
you don't want him to start v stoke, fine.
but lets not fucking make out babel was the only person who put in a shit performance today, if you want I can name and shame the players and list the things they were doing poorly.
[/quote]I think his point is that Babel ALWAYS does it.
Its hard to argue with really. He is playing for Liverpool and doesnt do enough to warrant the status Liverpool player.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926051#msg926051 date=1250459158]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
[/quote]

the TEAM was rubbish today so why single out individuals? do you want me to list all the things I thought torres, carra etc did wrong today? yeah they've been great in the past so they get a pass while the usual scapegoats take the absue. oh, for someone who has 'no game intelligence' I saw babel take up several excellent position but was missed by some uttterly utterly idiotic passing decisions from midfield.

you want to call him shit, fine.
you don't want him to start v stoke, fine.
but lets not fucking make out babel was the only person who put in a shit performance today, if you want I can name and shame the players and list the things they were doing poorly.
[/quote]

Please don't do it spidey.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35277.msg926052#msg926052 date=1250459263]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.


[/quote]

*Coughs*

Lucas
[/quote]

Hmmm.. Kept things simple, got stuck in when needed, lacked a more attacking partner, whereas Babel was just fucking shit, and pointless, and brainless.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926057#msg926057 date=1250459372]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35277.msg926052#msg926052 date=1250459263]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.


[/quote]

*Coughs*

Lucas
[/quote]

Hmmm.. Kept things simple, got stuck in when needed, lacked a more attacking partner, whereas Babel was just fucking shit, and pointless, and brainless.
[/quote]

I thought Lucas did quite well today Mark.

I was referring to this:

"He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old"

I've often thought that Lucas's middle name was potential.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35277.msg926054#msg926054 date=1250459306]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926051#msg926051 date=1250459158]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
[/quote]

the TEAM was rubbish today so why single out individuals, do you want me to list all the things I thought torres, carra etc did wrong today. yeah they've been great in the past so they get a pass while the usual scapegoats take the absue. oh, for someone who has 'no game intelligence' I saw babel take up several excellent position but was missed by someone uttterly utterly idiotic passing decisions midfield.

you want to call him shit, fine.
you don't want him to start v stoke, fine.
but lets not fucking make out babel was the only person who put in a shit performance today, if you want I can name and shame the players and list the things they were doing poorly.
[/quote]I think his point is that Babel ALWAYS does it.
Its hard to argue with really. He is playing for Liverpool and doesnt do enough to warrant the status Liverpool player.
[/quote]

no he doesn't but still I hate scapegoats, its uncalled for and unfair. you go to the ratings thread and babel is getting 3's and 0's well what did kuyt do to deserve a more? or torres? and so on. when babel is finally shipped out the door I swear I will never have a favorite player again it's not worth the hassle.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35277.msg926059#msg926059 date=1250459482]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926057#msg926057 date=1250459372]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35277.msg926052#msg926052 date=1250459263]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.


[/quote]

*Coughs*

Lucas
[/quote]

Hmmm.. Kept things simple, got stuck in when needed, lacked a more attacking partner, whereas Babel was just fucking shit, and pointless, and brainless.
[/quote]

I thought Lucas did quite well today Mark.

I was referring to this:

"He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old"
[/quote]I think Mark is drunk.
 
babel presented zero threat today okay, that's fair enough.
who DID present a threat today?

did ANYONE have a shot on target?
apart from johnson bursting into the box who carried the ball into spurs' penalty box?
who tested the keeper?
how many shots did the entire team have on target in 90 + mins of football?
 
I don't get what you're trying to put across. Was the whole team shite the last time Babel was?

No.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926061#msg926061 date=1250459560]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35277.msg926054#msg926054 date=1250459306]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926051#msg926051 date=1250459158]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35277.msg926041#msg926041 date=1250458657]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35277.msg926011#msg926011 date=1250457343]
forget it, it wont happen.
to get something off my chest, laying the blame at babel's door when the team was collectively rubbish fucking STINKS
[/quote]

Neil, that's pathetic. The team was shit but Babel summed up in one performance why people still say "this will be his year".

He's the only 23 year old I know of who is still talked about as though he's a fucking 17 year old.

*potential* my arse.
[/quote]

the TEAM was rubbish today so why single out individuals, do you want me to list all the things I thought torres, carra etc did wrong today. yeah they've been great in the past so they get a pass while the usual scapegoats take the absue. oh, for someone who has 'no game intelligence' I saw babel take up several excellent position but was missed by someone uttterly utterly idiotic passing decisions midfield.

you want to call him shit, fine.
you don't want him to start v stoke, fine.
but lets not fucking make out babel was the only person who put in a shit performance today, if you want I can name and shame the players and list the things they were doing poorly.
[/quote]I think his point is that Babel ALWAYS does it.
Its hard to argue with really. He is playing for Liverpool and doesnt do enough to warrant the status Liverpool player.
[/quote]

no he doesn't but still I hate scapegoats, its uncalled for and unfair. you go to the ratings thread and babel is getting 3's and 0's well what did kuyt do to deserve a more? or torres? and so on. when babel is finally shipped out the door I swear I will never have a favorite player again it's not worth the hassle.
[/quote]Torres - Laid the ball off for a gerrard strike, played the ball in that ekotou handballed, almost got onto a cross with his head, broke into the area only for kings studs to re-direct the gerrard cross.
Kuyt - played johnson in for the run to the pen, crossed that torres almost headed home.

Babel did nothing. Thats why he's getting poorer ratings. You cant see it, thats fine, i dont expect you to, youre laughably biased.
We were shit collectively, but some of the lads have earned the right to underperform once in a while babel has not. He ALWAYS underperforms. In 3 years you could count his good performances on 1 hand. He isnt going to suddenlly become the answer. Hes as old as messi ffs.
 
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