What if this "Messiah" wins the Europa league and the FA cup?
He'll still be less successful than Di Matteo at Chelsea.
Why not get Di Matteo in? He's a proven cup winner.
What if this "Messiah" wins the Europa league and the FA cup?
He'll still be less successful than Di Matteo at Chelsea.
Why not get Di Matteo in? He's a proven cup winner.
He'll still be less successful than Di Matteo at Chelsea.
Why not get Di Matteo in? He's a proven cup winner.
The only way Rafa will be back if its a joint ticket with Carragher as his number two. Even at that there would still be a big split between the fans.
The only way Rafa will be back if its a joint ticket with Carragher as his number two. Even at that there would still be a big split between the fans.
Because Rafa can win leagues. Has Di Matteo?
Chelsea werent out of the champions league when Rafa took over.Ha, based on half a season, with Chelsea already knocked out of the CL?
Indeed.You're right. Don't bring back McLaren!
Rafa won TWO titles Rosco, in amongst the sackings and arguments.Indeed.
Pesam recently made the case as to why nobody should be swayed by a single league title when talking about McLaren. The exact same argument applies to Rafa.
Rafa won TWO titles Rosco, in amongst the sackings and arguments.
It's a term of endearment.After being thrown out of the studio during a recording of Pointless, TWICE, you still keep using this abusive phrase?
You've swayed me about McLaren. I want McLaren!
Seriously...Chelsea werent out of the champions league when Rafa took over.
Benitez's 2nd and 3rd place finishes were punctuated with a 4th-placed finish in the middle and bookended by 5th and 7th place finishes. We finished 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd, 7th under him. In the league, his record was not much better than Houllier's seasons in charge (7th - joint management with Evans, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th, 4th). Evans' record was 4-3-4-3, so not much better/worse than either of his successors too.
Ultimately, Evans, Houllier and Benitez all paid for not delivering on the key target of their jobs. Our targets have changed now, but that's a combination of the effects of the bad decisions taken at both the board and team level (appointing the wrong manager, buying/selling the wrong players, etc.) rather than just who was managing the team.
However, with the exception of Hodgson, all the recent managers left their mark in different, constructive ways. Houllier is largely credited with bringing discipline and a more professional attitude to the club, while Benitez's most telling contribution may well be bringing in the likes of McParland, Borrell and Segura to revamp the Academy. While Kenny's full season in charge was a major disappointment in terms of league results, he brought renewed hope in taking us to a pair of cup finals and winning a cup after a couple of painful seasons to forget
If we're to get back to where we were, it'd be on the foundations laid down by these guys. I prefer to have it that way, than to over-romanticize over the notion that a messiah will return and lead us back to the promised land. We tried that a season and a half ago; that worked for the half season and then it went flat again (albeit with some flashes of hope).
Wow selective a bit, Rafa got us to the 5th in his first season which also included TWO cup finals one which also won us the European cup,what a shifty season that was finishing 5th !
Let's hope the fuck that never happens again eh?
In all reality his ONLY bad season was his last and even then we got to the Europa League semi's with only a perfectly good goal being disallowed stopping him taking us to our 3rd European final in his five year tenure.
What a fucking disaster eh?
I thought so. I only watch the champions league once United are out, but im sure I remember him still having Chelsea in the competition?Seriously...
You were right, but they were pretty much out.I thought so. I only watch the champions league once United are out, but im sure I remember him still having Chelsea in the competition?
Maybe I dreamed it.
I think what Rafa saw in Gareth Barry was a more dynamic partner for SG. Alonso for all his talents lacked pace in the middle, and he probably noticed like many people that SG, and Barry had a natural chemistry when playing for England together. There was nothing wrong with that - no one is doubting Alonso's ability as a player but I sometimes think that the speed of the PL was not a perfect fit for him.So you are trying to quantify that Gareth Barry is a better player than Xabi Alonso with that?
I think what Rafa saw in Gareth Barry was a more dynamic partner for SG. Alonso for all his talents lacked pace in the middle, and he probably noticed like many people that SG, and Barry had a natural chemistry when playing for England together. There was nothing wrong with that - no one is doubting Alonso's ability as a player but I sometimes think that the speed of the PL was not a perfect fit for him.
I think what Rafa saw in Gareth Barry was a more dynamic partner for SG. Alonso for all his talents lacked pace in the middle, and he probably noticed like many people that SG, and Barry had a natural chemistry when playing for England together. There was nothing wrong with that - no one is doubting Alonso's ability as a player but I sometimes think that the speed of the PL was not a perfect fit for him.