Get him and let the best one play. Competition is a good thing.
Furthermore, we need good cover for every position if we're going to challenge for trophies. Our squad is too thin, and we all saw how poor Moreno is.
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Furthermore, we need good cover for every position if we're going to challenge for trophies. Our squad is too thin, and we all saw how poor Moreno is.
Yeah, that’s our perspective. Whether Bertrand at his age wants to go from guaranteed starter to bench warmer (Robertson now has a reputation as being among the best left backs in the league) is another matter.
Cool! I hoped the guy would be mustard. He really is one of my favourite players. I'm made up that he is fucking bossing it. What a signing!
He! I never really minded them. I used to see some welsh Citeh girl that was banging Kinklaze (remember that guy?) at the time. They were fucking shit back then - Maybe around 1995? I dunno. I know they win stuff which I guess is good for them. I still giggle that I was busy porking their star strikers missus back then without him knowing. 😉
[article]“I did a lot of the opposition analysis, so I'd watched a lot of Robertson in terms of what his weaknesses were," Neville said.
“We saw him as a weakness going back. We saw him as a massive threat going forward but were unconvinced by his defensive work. That was proved actually in one of the Scotland games.
“So when he got to Liverpool I thought he started bright, he looked busy and good going forward but I felt that he would be found out come the big games, the big moments in a defence and goalkeeper that certainly earlier on in the season you weren't convinced by.
“I thought that he would falter. However, he has done a lot, lot better than I ever imagined."
Robertson was left out of the PFA Team of the Year which was named last week, with Chelsea's Marcos Alonso preferred.
Neville continued: “You look at the goals and it's an absolute no-brainer there because Alonso has scored more goals.
“But when I look at the assists, the clean sheets, Robertson's played a lot less games so his clean sheet ratio is a lot better.
“More touches in the game, obviously Robertson plays more mainly left-back and Alonso plays as a left-sided player.
“I am going to go with Robertson because ultimately I think Liverpool are having a fantastic season and he's probably been the best left-back and I've not been wholly convinced by Alonso."[/article]
I really liked Kinkladze as a player. Amazing dribbler.
Which just doubled the sloppy seconds effect Barba Roja was enjoying
Any dreams Tom? Not that this is a suitable thread context to ask in but...
You were mystic before the City game... I’m just wondering...
That Gary Neville quote exactly summed up my feelings when we signed him. I knew he was decent in possession and good going forward but that he would be found out defensively. Very glad to say that he's proving me very wrong.
Sadly no relevant dreams, but then they are not needed for this fixture. Saving all my dream juice for Woland's hostel floor in Kiev
I was nervous as fuck before the home leg, that turned out alright tho... Once again I am nervous as fuck... so hopefully we have the same awesome result.
I'd LOVE to beat them Real Cunts in the final.
http://www.thenational.scot/news/16...or_Scotland_as_Champions_League_final_awaits/
[article]In many ways his Cinderella story seemed destined to include an invitation to the ball of all balls.
Liverpool full-back Andy Robertson will become the first Scot to feature in a UEFA Champions League final since Paul Lambert won the illustrious competition with Borussia Dortmund in 1997.
Robertson was part of the Liverpool side who put Roma out of the competition at the semi-final stage last night following their 7-6 aggregate win over the Italians, their remarkable 13-goal thriller perhaps as unconventional as Robertson’s own rise to where he is now.
It has become trite to trot out the fact that the 24-year-old has made it to the top the hard way rather than through the pampered academy route, but at the same time it is impossible to applaud Robertson’s current vantage point without a look over his shoulder.
Midway through the opening period there was a point when Robertson embarked on what has become a trademark lung-bursting run all the way down the left flank, past Patrik Schick, past Alessandro Florenzi before cutting the ball back invitingly for Sadio Mane. A second goal for the striker at that point seemed to hang inevitably in the air before Roma keeper Alisson turned the shot behind for a corner.
The run itself, in the semi-final of the Champions League, the most celebrated tournament in club football was utterly fitting of the stage the Scotland internationalist finds himself on.
Not that he has got there by accident. We all know the narrative well enough by now - rejected by Celtic at under-15 level, Robertson’s route to the top came via Queen’s Park, Dundee United and a relegation fight with Hull – but its impact needs not dilute with repetition.
The trajectory of the last five years of his career might read like a Roy of the Rovers tale, rooted almost in a bygone era, but his performances for Liverpool this season has been every inch the modern fullback; aggressive, athletic, strong and industrious, Robertson has been the essence of how Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool have played in the competition.
The first team to breach Roma’s backline in the tournament this season, Robertson was one of the chief tormentors as he flew up and down the flank all night, repeatedly making incursions with his final ball tantalising in the six-yard box.
Such was his nuisance value that as the game drew to a close he found himself facing the wrath of a furious Kostas Manolas who bolted near-on 80 yards to remonstrate with an unperturbed Robertson about his foul on Florenzi. The Scot went into the book for his challenge but he will have the chance now to write a significant chapter in his own story.
The 24-year-old finds himself looking at the possibility of not just flying the flag for his country but joining the elite ranks of the celebrated Scots who have enjoyed the heady experience of lifting the weighty Champions League trophy.
It eluded, cruelly, Darren Fletcher during his time at Manchester United with suspension ruling him out of one while he was unused on the bench for the other two. Lambert was the last of the relatively modern-day names to have enjoyed success in the tournament but the small band who have been there reads like a football who’s who; there are the Lisbon Lions, of course, and then there are the likes of Graeme Souness, Kenny Dalglish, John Robertson, Steve Archibald, Alan Hansen and Pat Crerand among them. Little wonder then that Robertson could barely keep the smile off his face when interviewed in the immediate aftermath of the whistle blowing;”I had to take my time but I feel as if I am at home now,” said Robertson.
The much vaulted riches of Real Madrid will await now in the final of the competition as Robertson looks to complete his own rags to riches fairytale.[/article]
[article]In many ways his Cinderella story seemed destined to include an invitation to the ball of all balls.
Liverpool full-back Andy Robertson will become the first Scot to feature in a UEFA Champions League final since Paul Lambert won the illustrious competition with Borussia Dortmund in 1997.
Robertson was part of the Liverpool side who put Roma out of the competition at the semi-final stage last night following their 7-6 aggregate win over the Italians, their remarkable 13-goal thriller perhaps as unconventional as Robertson’s own rise to where he is now.
It has become trite to trot out the fact that the 24-year-old has made it to the top the hard way rather than through the pampered academy route, but at the same time it is impossible to applaud Robertson’s current vantage point without a look over his shoulder.
Midway through the opening period there was a point when Robertson embarked on what has become a trademark lung-bursting run all the way down the left flank, past Patrik Schick, past Alessandro Florenzi before cutting the ball back invitingly for Sadio Mane. A second goal for the striker at that point seemed to hang inevitably in the air before Roma keeper Alisson turned the shot behind for a corner.
The run itself, in the semi-final of the Champions League, the most celebrated tournament in club football was utterly fitting of the stage the Scotland internationalist finds himself on.
Not that he has got there by accident. We all know the narrative well enough by now - rejected by Celtic at under-15 level, Robertson’s route to the top came via Queen’s Park, Dundee United and a relegation fight with Hull – but its impact needs not dilute with repetition.
The trajectory of the last five years of his career might read like a Roy of the Rovers tale, rooted almost in a bygone era, but his performances for Liverpool this season has been every inch the modern fullback; aggressive, athletic, strong and industrious, Robertson has been the essence of how Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool have played in the competition.
The first team to breach Roma’s backline in the tournament this season, Robertson was one of the chief tormentors as he flew up and down the flank all night, repeatedly making incursions with his final ball tantalising in the six-yard box.
Such was his nuisance value that as the game drew to a close he found himself facing the wrath of a furious Kostas Manolas who bolted near-on 80 yards to remonstrate with an unperturbed Robertson about his foul on Florenzi. The Scot went into the book for his challenge but he will have the chance now to write a significant chapter in his own story.
The 24-year-old finds himself looking at the possibility of not just flying the flag for his country but joining the elite ranks of the celebrated Scots who have enjoyed the heady experience of lifting the weighty Champions League trophy.
It eluded, cruelly, Darren Fletcher during his time at Manchester United with suspension ruling him out of one while he was unused on the bench for the other two. Lambert was the last of the relatively modern-day names to have enjoyed success in the tournament but the small band who have been there reads like a football who’s who; there are the Lisbon Lions, of course, and then there are the likes of Graeme Souness, Kenny Dalglish, John Robertson, Steve Archibald, Alan Hansen and Pat Crerand among them. Little wonder then that Robertson could barely keep the smile off his face when interviewed in the immediate aftermath of the whistle blowing;”I had to take my time but I feel as if I am at home now,” said Robertson.
The much vaulted riches of Real Madrid will await now in the final of the competition as Robertson looks to complete his own rags to riches fairytale.[/article]
Best left back in my lifetime
Hes been a revelation. He exemplifies the sort of attitude you want to see in a team, never stops working, never gets intimidated or overawed by his opponent, sticks to his job and keeps things simple.
In many ways he reminds me of Dennis Irwin, that probably wont be a popular comparison but you can see what I mean.
In many ways he reminds me of Dennis Irwin, that probably wont be a popular comparison but you can see what I mean.
I said he reminded me a bit of Steve Finnan when I first saw him play, back in August. Seems a fair comparison.
I was Meh about signing a Scottish lad that hadn't done anything of note in the position that needed urgent addressing but fuck he he's been amazing.
Couldn't have asked for better.
Hopefully he stays fit and never does a hammy as his pace is vital.
Absolutely love him now.
Couldn't have asked for better.
Hopefully he stays fit and never does a hammy as his pace is vital.
Absolutely love him now.
He’s quicker and seems more comfortable with the ball, which is wonderful.
Yeah he’s fuck all like Steve Finnan, who was an excellent defender but got a nosebleed every time he passed the half way line. Robbo is a marauding buccaneer, swashbuckling his way up and down the left touch line. He’s like a cross between Steve Nichol and Gnasher.
Actually, and I’ll need older reds to assess the comparison, but the past player I think of in parallel to Robbo is Emlyn Hughes, who played much of his career at LFB. The infectious energy certainly seems to connect them. With Robertson's coltish running he could also carry the nickname crazy horse.
Actually, and I’ll need older reds to assess the comparison, but the past player I think of in parallel to Robbo is Emlyn Hughes, who played much of his career at LFB. The infectious energy certainly seems to connect them. With Robertson's coltish running he could also carry the nickname crazy horse.
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That's a really interesting comparison. Actually he didn't spend that much of his career at left back - he played more in midfield and centre back, although Sir h'Alf Ramsey seemed determined to keep him there for England. But now you say it, and I hadn't thought of it before, there is a connection between Hughes and Robertson - the dynamism, the attitude, the sound good sense.
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Liverpool's Andy Robertson 'now worth £40m' - Mark Lawrenson
[article]Scotland full-back Andy Robertson has become a £40m player after a fabulous first season with Liverpool, according to former Anfield hero Mark Lawrenson.
Despite a 4-2 second-leg defeat to Roma on Wednesday, the Reds progressed to the Champions League final and a date with holders Real Madrid on 26 May.
Robertson, 24, played in both legs of the semi-final and in the quarter-final success against Manchester City.
"I cannot remember a poor game from him," Lawrenson told BBC Scotland.
"What was it - £8.5m [initial £8m] or something [they paid for him]? He is probably times that by five at the moment."
Robertson is now in line to become the first Scot to play in a Champions League final since Paul Lambert won the trophy with Borussia Dortmund in 1997.
Only five years ago, he was playing with the amateurs of Queen's Park in the bottom tier of the Scottish senior set-up.
Having progressed to Dundee United, then Hull City, Robertson moved to Anfield last summer but did not establish himself in manager Jurgen Klopp's plans immediately.
He did not feature in any of Liverpool's group stage matches, making his first European outing in a 5-0 away win at Porto in the last 16.
Lawrenson, who won the European Cup with Liverpool in 1984, added: "People in the game said to me, 'He is great going forward, but defensively against the top teams, I am not sure.'
"I tell you what, no-one has taken him apart as yet. The quality of his passing and crossing is outstanding.
"He is an extremely fit individual; he just looks like a player that doesn't give a problem to the manager and gets on with it.
"He has done absolutely brilliantly. We saw a brief glimpse of him at the start of the season and then he disappeared.
"I think a lot of outsiders were thinking 'Crikey, maybe the manager doesn't fancy him now he has brought him in?' 'Did the manager actually see him play?' everybody was asking.
"[Alberto] Moreno started really well but got injured, and then Andy Robertson was thrown in."
He has been a first team regular since early December, missing just four league matches - with three of those to keep him fresh for the Champions League's latter stages.
Under contract until 2021, with the option of a further year, Robertson is being tipped by some to become a Liverpool legend.
"Your first season when you arrive on the scene, it is probably easy, you don't even think about what you are doing," said Lawrenson
"He has got all the tools. We will probably have a better indication at the end of next season. I always judge a player over two years.
"Sometimes they come in and have a great first season, and the second season is maybe not quite as good. That is when you really decide if they are going to be a great, or just a very, very good player. But very, very good at Liverpool is totally acceptable."[/article]
[article]Scotland full-back Andy Robertson has become a £40m player after a fabulous first season with Liverpool, according to former Anfield hero Mark Lawrenson.
Despite a 4-2 second-leg defeat to Roma on Wednesday, the Reds progressed to the Champions League final and a date with holders Real Madrid on 26 May.
Robertson, 24, played in both legs of the semi-final and in the quarter-final success against Manchester City.
"I cannot remember a poor game from him," Lawrenson told BBC Scotland.
"What was it - £8.5m [initial £8m] or something [they paid for him]? He is probably times that by five at the moment."
Robertson is now in line to become the first Scot to play in a Champions League final since Paul Lambert won the trophy with Borussia Dortmund in 1997.
Only five years ago, he was playing with the amateurs of Queen's Park in the bottom tier of the Scottish senior set-up.
Having progressed to Dundee United, then Hull City, Robertson moved to Anfield last summer but did not establish himself in manager Jurgen Klopp's plans immediately.
He did not feature in any of Liverpool's group stage matches, making his first European outing in a 5-0 away win at Porto in the last 16.
Lawrenson, who won the European Cup with Liverpool in 1984, added: "People in the game said to me, 'He is great going forward, but defensively against the top teams, I am not sure.'
"I tell you what, no-one has taken him apart as yet. The quality of his passing and crossing is outstanding.
"He is an extremely fit individual; he just looks like a player that doesn't give a problem to the manager and gets on with it.
"He has done absolutely brilliantly. We saw a brief glimpse of him at the start of the season and then he disappeared.
"I think a lot of outsiders were thinking 'Crikey, maybe the manager doesn't fancy him now he has brought him in?' 'Did the manager actually see him play?' everybody was asking.
"[Alberto] Moreno started really well but got injured, and then Andy Robertson was thrown in."
He has been a first team regular since early December, missing just four league matches - with three of those to keep him fresh for the Champions League's latter stages.
Under contract until 2021, with the option of a further year, Robertson is being tipped by some to become a Liverpool legend.
"Your first season when you arrive on the scene, it is probably easy, you don't even think about what you are doing," said Lawrenson
"He has got all the tools. We will probably have a better indication at the end of next season. I always judge a player over two years.
"Sometimes they come in and have a great first season, and the second season is maybe not quite as good. That is when you really decide if they are going to be a great, or just a very, very good player. But very, very good at Liverpool is totally acceptable."[/article]
Fletcher was banned for one final and on the bench for the other apparently
Fletcher was probably on the bench?
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