He hits on a few interesting points regarding Gerrard, and even the Glen Johnson debate,
Aldo on Gerrard
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He hits on a few interesting points regarding Gerrard, and even the Glen Johnson debate,
The most interesting thing about that article for me is the fact that Aldo clearly sides with those who would play Stevie in CM rather than further forward.
Yeah, definitely. I much prefer him playing in that position too. It was fine him playing the role behind Torres when we had Masher and Alonso in the middle, but without either of the, let alone both, he needs to be playing CM.
Agreed. If Rafa had played him there last season he'd have kept his job and we'd be playing Champions League football now.
Basically I don't think Stevie's better in either one of those positions than he is in the other. To me he's a world-beater in both, and should be played where the team needs him most. For my money there's no question he belongs in CM now unless we make a top signing in that position, and soon.
Basically I don't think Stevie's better in either one of those positions than he is in the other. To me he's a world-beater in both, and should be played where the team needs him most. For my money there's no question he belongs in CM now unless we make a top signing in that position, and soon.
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Agreed. If Rafa had played him there last season he'd have kept his job and we'd be playing Champions League football now.
Basically I don't think Stevie's better in either one of those positions than he is in the other. To me he's a world-beater in both, and should be played where the team needs him most. For my money there's no question he belongs in CM now unless we make a top signing in that position, and soon.
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Yup 4-4-2 with Kuyt and Torres up top and Masher and Stevie in the middle is a pretty strong line up, and we would have probably finished in top 4 if Rafa played that.
For some reason Rafa was more stubborn than usual in his last season.
Agreed. If Rafa had played him there last season he'd have kept his job and we'd be playing Champions League football now.
Basically I don't think Stevie's better in either one of those positions than he is in the other. To me he's a world-beater in both, and should be played where the team needs him most. For my money there's no question he belongs in CM now unless we make a top signing in that position, and soon.
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Yup 4-4-2 with Kuyt and Torres up top and Masher and Stevie in the middle is a pretty strong line up, and we would have probably finished in top 4 if Rafa played that.
For some reason Rafa was more stubborn than usual in his last season.
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Gerrard can be a brilliant CM, IMO, but it depends on how much licence you give him to go forward.
We have had massive holes in our CM area in the past when he has played there. It was one of the reasons why a partnership with Xabi never really flourished.
We have had massive holes in our CM area in the past when he has played there. It was one of the reasons why a partnership with Xabi never really flourished.
That's true. Especially with a squad as thin as ours, any such choice entails balancing risks as well as potential advantages. However, Stevie seems to me to have matured generally in the last year or two, and I'd be relying on that feeding through into his approach on the field.
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He's my favourite footballer ever.
Steven Gerrard is immense.
Steven Gerrard is immense.
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Gerrard is amazing. Souness with goals.
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Souey grabbed his fair share of goals too, remember... There just weren't as many of them because he had two of the world's greatest strikers playing in front of him.
Gerrard is amazing. Souness with goals.
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Souey grabbed his fair share of goals too, remember... There just weren't as many of them because he had two of the world's greatest strikers playing in front of him.
I was at a pre world cup media party in Dublin last summer and Aldo was there along with a number of other ex Irish internationals, over the course of the evening they were getting stuck into the free booze and started letting some interesting information slip. In Aldos case it was the fact that himself and Daglish never got along and he still resented him for flogging him to Sociedad in 89. So hearing him say Gerrard has surpassed Kenny doesnt surprise me
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I was at a pre world cup media party in Dublin last summer and Aldo was there along with a number of other ex Irish internationals, over the course of the evening they were getting stuck into the free booze and started letting some interesting information slip. In Aldos case it was the fact that himself and Daglish never got along and he still resented him for flogging him to Sociedad in 89. So hearing him say Gerrard has surpassed Kenny doesnt surprise me
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While it doesn't surprise you, he does make a fair point about King Kenny being surrounded by 10 world class players compared to Gerrard.
I was at a pre world cup media party in Dublin last summer and Aldo was there along with a number of other ex Irish internationals, over the course of the evening they were getting stuck into the free booze and started letting some interesting information slip. In Aldos case it was the fact that himself and Daglish never got along and he still resented him for flogging him to Sociedad in 89. So hearing him say Gerrard has surpassed Kenny doesnt surprise me
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While it doesn't surprise you, he does make a fair point about King Kenny being surrounded by 10 world class players compared to Gerrard.
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[quote author=refugee link=topic=42675.msg1214855#msg1214855 date=1289349529]
Gerrard is amazing. Souness with goals.
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Souey grabbed his fair share of goals too, remember... There just weren't as many of them because he had two of the world's greatest strikers playing in front of him.
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Are you saying that if Gerrard had two world class strikers in front of him (instead of one) he'd score less goals?
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Gerrard is amazing. Souness with goals.
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Souey grabbed his fair share of goals too, remember... There just weren't as many of them because he had two of the world's greatest strikers playing in front of him.
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Are you saying that if Gerrard had two world class strikers in front of him (instead of one) he'd score less goals?
The logic seems counter intuative but its most likely true that in a team with more potent goal scoring threats Gerrard wouldnt have scored so many, he wouldnt have been required to perform the heoics so often and could have played more centrally than he has over the years, one of the most repeated criticisms of Gerrard over the years is that his forays forward have left the team unbalanced and open to counter attacks. Its undoubtedly true, no player can play in two positions so if Stevie was playing in a team that was comfortably beating all arournd them his brief would never have been to surge forward as often
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[quote author=RedStar link=topic=42675.msg1214862#msg1214862 date=1289358011]
I was at a pre world cup media party in Dublin last summer and Aldo was there along with a number of other ex Irish internationals, over the course of the evening they were getting stuck into the free booze and started letting some interesting information slip. In Aldos case it was the fact that himself and Daglish never got along and he still resented him for flogging him to Sociedad in 89. So hearing him say Gerrard has surpassed Kenny doesnt surprise me
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While it doesn't surprise you, he does make a fair point about King Kenny being surrounded by 10 world class players compared to Gerrard.
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The other way of looking at that is that the King still stood out despite having all that quality around him.
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=42675.msg1214862#msg1214862 date=1289358011]
I was at a pre world cup media party in Dublin last summer and Aldo was there along with a number of other ex Irish internationals, over the course of the evening they were getting stuck into the free booze and started letting some interesting information slip. In Aldos case it was the fact that himself and Daglish never got along and he still resented him for flogging him to Sociedad in 89. So hearing him say Gerrard has surpassed Kenny doesnt surprise me
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While it doesn't surprise you, he does make a fair point about King Kenny being surrounded by 10 world class players compared to Gerrard.
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The other way of looking at that is that the King still stood out despite having all that quality around him.
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