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Another clean sheet at the weekend.
Daniel Agger can shut the fuck up and stay sitting.
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He certainly should play come Champions League midweek don't you agree? Or would you keep him out untill Skrtl looses us a game?
The Carra / Skrtl partnership hasn't leaked many goals so far but they are not the perfect centerback pairing as they are far to alike in my opinion. None of them have the composure nor skill to turn defence into attack - at least they are not in the same league as Agger who's on his day is one of the most skillful CB's in the world. We will often need our defenders talent on the break as well or as adding up the numbers when playing tight oppositions, and as a result we need an in-form Agger to play.
If he doesn't play at home in the Champions League come Wednesday - especially after his MOTM performance midweek in the Carling Cup - no wonder if he's severely dissapointed. He should be.
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You're so biased it's unreal.
I think we can agree that the first and foremost job of a defender is to prevent the team from conceding goals. We conceded 2 goals so far in the PL. Yes, 2. The smallest number of conceded goals in the PL so far. For how many of them were Carra or Skrtel at fault? They're forming one of the finest and most successful CB pairings in the PL at the moment.
And still you're banging on about how your Danish chappy should play because of "his composure to turn defence into attack", MOM performances in the Carling Cup and so on. Any reason is fine enough it seems.
There have been numerous discussions concerning Rafa's rotation policy. And time and time again most of the posters agreed that we should play our strongest first XI week in and week out unless there are injuries or serious dips in form. None of that is the case at the moment. So why should we bench Carra or Skrtel just to play Agger?
It's not that I don't like Danny Agger - I think he's a good player and I'm happy that he's with us. But he can bang in free kicks or whatever in the Carling Cup or the ressies for all I care - as long as Carra and Skrtel provide this kind of form they're in Agger should wait for his turn.
Would you also fight let's say Lucas' corner if he did a MOM performance in the Carling Cup and scored a hattrick and back him to replace Stevie?
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Uh oh, you've thrown the almighty biased-card 🙂
Cleansheets against Sunderland, Stoke and the most toothless Everton-team I've seen in a while doesn't make everything dandy you know.
Against Marseille we were extremely fortunate not to concede more, United scored on one of two chances. Boro the same.
Against Stoke, who attacked with one man og the counter, we should've seen more of Skrtl IMO if he really is t be Carra's long term partner.
Listen, I'm not having a go at Skrtl, he is doing a great job and as such shouldn't be benched though I reckon Agger to be a better fit for Carra - all I'm saying is, with so many games beeing played Rafa would be a moron (not the poster) not to give Agger playingtime come midweek. It's quite simple really.
Oh and your comparison with Lucas is so incredibly daft as it's not like he's aldready been a key-figure in our side at any point is it?
If you really have to make an analogy:
Babel scores a brace when played as a striker as Torres is out injured - should he then hold his place when El Nino was back fit?
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I see. Just because the teams we played against were not the creme de la creme of the PL means that clean sheets against them don't count as much as against Chelsea or the likes.
But still we kept them. And we kept them because of rock solid performances at the back.
Regarding your point vs. United:
When was the last time that United only created two chances against us? And who was to blame for the goal they scored? Hardly any of the CBs.
What should Skrtel have done against Stoke (apart from helping to keep a clean sheet)? Score from a free kick like Agger would have done or what?
I know that you don't have a go at Skrtel. You're just biased when it comes to anything to do with Agger (or any other Danish player). That's what I tried to point out with comparison, daft or not.
Listen, when Danny Agger forces his way into the first XI again I'll be one of the first to applaud him. I really appreciate him as a player. I just don't feel the need to rotate players out of the first team in favour of a player who was injured for a long time and didn't play too well when he's got the chance this season (apart from a disputable *MOM* performance in the Carling Cup).
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Biased towards Danish players I am - if they are any good.
I've heaped praised on Agger, Saric and Zanka in the past. And Bendtner.
Agger and Saric are now Liverpool-players and the latter has been linked this Summer. Bendtner has got world class potential which I reckon even the most stubborn poster on here will soon agree. So what's the problem again?
Agger was poob against Liege but yet WE DIDN'T CONCEDE. By your standard of argument that's all that counts which then of course doesn't make any sense at all as he was dropped the following game.
Skrtl certainly wasn't particularly good against Marseille and we even conceded.
I don't think he had the best of games really against Everton either. And against Stoke we could've REALLY used Agger's drive and forward runs - aynone who claims otherwise is a doped white mouse.
