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Adem Ljajic & Zoran Tosic

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Ryan

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Ever heard of them?

Well... One year ago Today Man United paid 16.3M quid for them.

In that year, Tosic has played a grand total of 18 minutes in the FA Cup, and 13 minutes of a league game that United were already leading 5-0.

Ljajic apparently doesn't join United until 2010, as they didn't think he was "ready" yet.

Next time anyone on this site ever brings up the 7M Andrea Dossena, do remember these chaps...
 
Never heard of them. How old are they?

Even if they're the 2 worst footballers on the planet, Dossena was still a shit buy.
 
I think they're both about 18/19.

Besides, we'll get about 3/4M back for Dossena.
 
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I think they're both about 18/19.

Besides, we'll get about 3/4M back for Dossena.
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Just looked that Zoran bloke up, he's 22. That doesn't bode well.
 
22?! Fucking hell.

A manc-supporting mate of mine say's he's the 'Lucas' of their message-boards.
 
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22?! Fucking hell.

A manc-supporting mate of mine say's he's the 'Lucas' of their message-boards.
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The other one is 17.

Still, its not like these lads are 1 & 2 million pound gambles like ours. 16 mil is an incredible investment. Tosic has been there for a year and has had 10 minutes action.

Mind you, I wish Lucas had only had 10 minutes action.
 
Well yeah, Ljajic could prove to be fucking Pele for all we know, but you'd like to think that for 16M's investment you've got more than someone currently playing for Partizan Belgrade as you're only hope.

Mind you they did spend 65M odd on Berbatov, Nani & Anderson.
 
Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
 
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Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
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Fergie can do whatever he wants cos he's won stuff ???.

You shuld work for the FA, Dreamy.
 
Weren't they recommended by Vidic?!? You could argue they contributed to him staying at Utd for as long as he has, because the club went out of their way and heavily backed his judgment.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37469.msg999966#msg999966 date=1259295766]
Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
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its worse, last 3 years!

I heard that Ljajic is going to be hot shit...He was only 16 when they signed him and i read hes very slight. Not heard of the other one. Tosic.
 
Ljajic is 18 now.

Anyways, I've seen Tosic play for their reserves (against us) and whilst there were obvious signs of class, there was really nothing to suggest that he was a 13M player. If someone asked you who cost 13M, Pacecho or Tosic, you'd probably have plumped for the former.
 
That surely is a vast ammount of money spunked on unproven talents and easily highlights the difference between budgets.

Had Rafa spunked £16M on a youngster, who was then told to stay in Serbia for a while, and a 22-year-old only to be played in the FA Cup within the first yera or so he would've been crusified.

And rightly so.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37469.msg999966#msg999966 date=1259295766]
Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
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The voice of reason has entered the building.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37469.msg999966#msg999966 date=1259295766]
Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
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The voice of reason has entered the building.
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What building exactly are you referring too?
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37469.msg999966#msg999966 date=1259295766]
Difference is this.

Man Utd won the league for the last 2 years and have won it 10 times since we won it last.

So Fergie can do pretty much whatever the f*ck he wants.

Rafa has won zero titles and has alot less money so needs every purchase to count.

Plus they were bought as prospects not as 1st team replacements as Dossena was.
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Well known fact though that Ferguson didn't win the league in his first 7 seasons at United and made many poor purchases at that time too. If you had been a United fan at that time you would have been screaming for his head - and you'd have been wrong.

Tosic is their leTallec, they all raved about how good he was going to be and now they are all resigned to the fact that he'll never make the grade in the EPL.

Nani, Anderson, Tosic, Hargreaves, Valencia, Obertan....................... Ferguson's record in the transfer market has always been erratic and don't trot out the Ronaldo £14m -> £70m because Rafa could sell Torres tomorrow for a similar amount.
 
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Brrr, memories of Pongo and Lo Talent. Was Veron Ginsoak's biggest flop?
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Probably, although to be fair to him I think most of us thought it would work out to be a brilliant signing.
 
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Tosic is their leTallec
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LeTallecWiz > TosicWiz, FACT
 
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Tosic is their leTallec
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LeTallecWiz > TosicWiz, FACT
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Haha
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37469.msg1000041#msg1000041 date=1259318169]
Tosic is their leTallec
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LeTallecWiz > TosicWiz, FACT
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LTW=Glock?

The plot thickens...
 
Ha, well would you look at that...

Manchester United back out of deal for Serbia's 'little Kaká'

• 18-year-old Adem Ljajic deemed too expensive a gamble
• United used opt-out clause in £16.5m deal with Zoran Tosic
Daniel Taylor The Guardian, Thursday 3 December 2009 Article history



Manchester United's American owners have terminated an agreement to sign Adem Ljajic, the Serbia Under-21 international, in the January transfer window, after deciding that he is too expensive a gamble, 11 months after publicly announcing that a deal had been put in place to sign the player dubbed the "little Kaká" in his own country.

Ljajic, 18, was part of the £16.5m deal that also saw his Partizan Belgrade team-mate Zoran Tosic move to Old Trafford last January. The teenager had been on trial at United the previous October and was regarded at the time as the more promising of the two players but United also decided that he should remain in Belgrade to get some more first-team experience before moving to England.

What was not revealed at the time was that the club also stipulated that a get-out clause was written into the contract to cover themselves before Ljajic moved to Manchester long term, and the club have now confirmed they have used that agreement to pull out of the arrangement.

The official reason is that Ljajic has failed to live up to the hype since he broke into the Partizan team at the start of the 2008-09 season and has not impressed United's coaching staff on his regular trips to Manchester to train with the rest of Sir Alex Ferguson's players. Tosic has also struggled to make a favourable impact, making only five substitute appearances despite being a regular in the Serbia national side.

A United spokesperson said: "We had an option to buy the player but, having closely monitored his development over the past 12 months, and taken into consideration the young players emerging through the ranks at the club, we have not chosen to pursue the transfer."

The decision will, however, raise inevitable questions about whether the club's owners, Malcolm Glazer and his family, have involved themselves in Ferguson's planning for the future at a time when they are making substantial cuts at Old Trafford.

United have accrued debts in excess of £600m and Ferguson has been informed he will be operating under tight restraints in the January transfer window, regardless of the club receiving £80m in one single payment from Real Madrid for the signing of Cristiano Ronaldo in the summer.

The Glazers have implemented wide-ranging cuts and, though it has yet to be confirmed, there is a sense that in their current financial position they might have misgivings about paying such a substantial figure for a largely unproven teenager.

This turnaround, however, is extraordinary given that Manchester United's official website described Ljajic as "Serbia's brightest young talent" when the signing was announced, hailing him as an "attacking midfielder blessed with vision and intelligence". The player, then 17, spoke of his excitement about moving to England, saying: "I first heard they were interested in me about a year and a half ago and spent a week at Carrington training with the first team, which I really enjoyed. I feel very happy to be a Manchester United player. Everyone at the club has made me feel very welcome and I'm looking forward to joining in January."

Tosic has his own problems but has been encouraged by scoring four goals in the last four reserve fixtures, and the 22-year-old was a second-half substitute in the 2-0 Carling Cup defeat of Tottenham Hotspur on Tuesday. "I'm still trying to get used to English football and adapt to the style of the game here," he said. "It's still new for me but I'm getting used to it." Unfortunately for Ljajic, he will not get that chance.
 
Lol.

Poor Redcafe forumites. I just checked and the have this 1150 post thread called "Ljajic watch".

What an anti-climax.
 
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