Maybe so - but we all know Mane would never have got the penalty, our players need to be shot to get a pen.
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Maybe so - but we all know Mane would never have got the penalty, our players need to be shot to get a pen.
I see lots of room for development in terms of passes from midfield in the final third and specially using Thiago better. I have watched him quite a lot when he was at Bayern. It is like no one in the team can match his speed and thought or dont trust him to keep the ball for those split seconds, able to pass in the next second.
Lots of times I see him having the ball, he controls it and wants to play it forward but our team is used to get these sideways passes from midfielders that simply no one makes those runs. Our midfield play could be even more penetrative than usual if we use Thiago in a triangle of passing so that we exploit free spaces as quickly as possible. Yesterday it happened like 2-3 times; specially on an occasion when Wijnaldum ran at their defenders and had a shot. I think it could be used more often.
Lots of times I see him having the ball, he controls it and wants to play it forward but our team is used to get these sideways passes from midfielders that simply no one makes those runs. Our midfield play could be even more penetrative than usual if we use Thiago in a triangle of passing so that we exploit free spaces as quickly as possible. Yesterday it happened like 2-3 times; specially on an occasion when Wijnaldum ran at their defenders and had a shot. I think it could be used more often.
Actually look again at the average positions. We totally lost width (bar Robbo who was crap). There wasn't more space is the centre there was less and with Mane dropping back there was no one making the runs behind. Jones wasn't, Firmino wasn't. No one was. Look at the goals too.
Respectfully disagree.
Jones was in acres of space for his goal. Firmino was in lots of space when put through 1 on 1. We've not seen that recently at all. The box has been so crowded but with none of our players in there. Last night Jones was in there quite a bit. And Mane.
In the recent past Mane and Robbo haven't really combined to make a decent overlap or create space. Last night they weren't really trying to do that, and it almost gave Robbo more space with Mane moving inside and taking a man with him.
The beauty is that the systems can be played by all the same personnel, so when we become more adept, we can switch between the 2 which will further increase the problems on the defence.
Not time to get carried away, but it was what all of us have been crying out for (a change, any change in tactic) and it worked. The fact that we, with some practice could morph between the 2 is quite exciting imo.
I think the problem is that our boys (Mane and Salah in particular) don't have a good diving routine ala Kane, Sterling and all the Scum cunts.
Both of our boys look quite theatrical whenever they go down and that's why we they seem to get so much shit in the press and nothing from the refs.
Yesterday's and the Newcastle one were stonewall penos but because he didn't go down, no chance of getting anything.
It was Sheff United mate. Them of 21 losses from 26 games. I'm not surprised we found space - we could have played a 5-5-0 and still found acres 😉
Glad to see you've come round to my way of thinking, that we found/made space, even if it was against sheff u 😉
It will be interesting to see if he sticks with it on Thursday. As you imply, that will a harder test.
Chelsea will be a completely different challenge - they won’t defend deep and in numbers, but they have quality all over the pitch. I worry about losing the midfield battle - Kante and Kovacic will be tough in the middle and their wing-backs will probably make ours too preoccupied with defense. The only way I can see is winning it is if our front 3 is sharper and more clinical than theirs.
why are all these videos never available to watch in Germany !
They are if you use VPN!
you mean the way Scums played at old toilet and still got beat 2-1 !
Some analysis on Trent's new role by Sam McGuire:
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I’ve always been of the opinion that moving him into the centre of the pitch would be a bit of a waste when he’s so effective at what he does. Having said that, I’ve always had a slight worry that a shift in shape would nullify him. If Liverpool start to build in central areas, Alexander-Arnold would be wasted as a more traditional full-back.
Klopp sort of appeased everyone with his use of the England international against Sheffield United. He was given a hybrid role, along with a number of other players, and he seemed to thrive.
He played more as a right-sided midfielder who would drop back into defence when Liverpool had possession in deep areas.
In the still above, he’s taken up a position that Jordan Henderson would usually fill when he was deployed on the right side of the midfield. Usually, Alexander-Arnold would be much higher and really wide.
In this new system, Mohamed Salah was responsible for keeping the width on the right and this opened up space for the 22-year-old to play as a central midfielder. The Reds shifted where their attacks would originate from and Sheffield United struggled to get to grips with it. Everyone focused on the new-look front five, but it was Alexander-Arnold’s role that might’ve been the most interesting on the night.
He finished the match with six shot involvements. He also attempted 47 forward passes, the most he’s managed this season and 60% of the ten passes into the penalty area found a team-mate. For context, his average for the 2020/21 campaign is six attempted and 43% completed. He was more progressive and more incisive. A good example of this can be seen below.
The right-back is in possession and, usually, he’s a little wider. His first thought tends to be a ball down the line to Salah. If that isn’t on, he’ll look for a switch to Robertson before finally playing a simple pass to either the centre-back or the centre-midfielder.
His thought process was different at Bramall Lane. With one pass into Mane, Alexander-Arnold helped Liverpool bypass the host’s midfield. It also got the visitors into a five on five situation. It’s a simple pass, but a really effective one. It’s also one he’d unlikely be in a position to play if it wasn’t for the tweak to the system.
If this is a long-term plan for Klopp, Alexander-Arnold will likely switch assists for hockey assists (the pass before the assist). He’ll be just as creative, but his headline numbers will drop. However, the front four will all see their creative numbers increase, with Liverpool now creating chances from central parts of the pitch. The scramble to get the West Derby-born full-back into midfield will always be there, but if Klopp keeps reinventing the role of his right-back, Alexander-Arnold can continue to stake his claim for being the best in the world at what he does.
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I’ve always been of the opinion that moving him into the centre of the pitch would be a bit of a waste when he’s so effective at what he does. Having said that, I’ve always had a slight worry that a shift in shape would nullify him. If Liverpool start to build in central areas, Alexander-Arnold would be wasted as a more traditional full-back.
Klopp sort of appeased everyone with his use of the England international against Sheffield United. He was given a hybrid role, along with a number of other players, and he seemed to thrive.
He played more as a right-sided midfielder who would drop back into defence when Liverpool had possession in deep areas.
In the still above, he’s taken up a position that Jordan Henderson would usually fill when he was deployed on the right side of the midfield. Usually, Alexander-Arnold would be much higher and really wide.
In this new system, Mohamed Salah was responsible for keeping the width on the right and this opened up space for the 22-year-old to play as a central midfielder. The Reds shifted where their attacks would originate from and Sheffield United struggled to get to grips with it. Everyone focused on the new-look front five, but it was Alexander-Arnold’s role that might’ve been the most interesting on the night.
He finished the match with six shot involvements. He also attempted 47 forward passes, the most he’s managed this season and 60% of the ten passes into the penalty area found a team-mate. For context, his average for the 2020/21 campaign is six attempted and 43% completed. He was more progressive and more incisive. A good example of this can be seen below.
The right-back is in possession and, usually, he’s a little wider. His first thought tends to be a ball down the line to Salah. If that isn’t on, he’ll look for a switch to Robertson before finally playing a simple pass to either the centre-back or the centre-midfielder.
His thought process was different at Bramall Lane. With one pass into Mane, Alexander-Arnold helped Liverpool bypass the host’s midfield. It also got the visitors into a five on five situation. It’s a simple pass, but a really effective one. It’s also one he’d unlikely be in a position to play if it wasn’t for the tweak to the system.
If this is a long-term plan for Klopp, Alexander-Arnold will likely switch assists for hockey assists (the pass before the assist). He’ll be just as creative, but his headline numbers will drop. However, the front four will all see their creative numbers increase, with Liverpool now creating chances from central parts of the pitch. The scramble to get the West Derby-born full-back into midfield will always be there, but if Klopp keeps reinventing the role of his right-back, Alexander-Arnold can continue to stake his claim for being the best in the world at what he does.
We'll win 2-0 again
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