A One Word Summary Of Benitez At Liverpool
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38346.msg1029839#msg1029839 date=1262974101]
I'm not really intertested in arguing the toss with you, I'm simply pointing out you know nothing about football.
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I think bren is ace at picking out duds but less than ace at predicting football scores but then, who is?
I'm not really intertested in arguing the toss with you, I'm simply pointing out you know nothing about football.
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I think bren is ace at picking out duds but less than ace at predicting football scores but then, who is?
Meh
'Skint'
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
Dunno
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38346.msg1029843#msg1029843 date=1262974309]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38346.msg1029839#msg1029839 date=1262974101]
I'm not really intertested in arguing the toss with you, I'm simply pointing out you know nothing about football.
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I think bren is ace at picking out duds but less than ace at predicting football scores but then, who is?
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He does pick them out early but anyone can see that Nunez, Josemi etc. are duds after a game or too. What Brendan does is keeps hammering it home to a point it becomes boring. Lucas, Aurelio, Insua for example are not good enough for our first team but they don't derserve to be painted with the same brush as the real duds.
I do like the drama it causes though so long may it continue.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38346.msg1029839#msg1029839 date=1262974101]
I'm not really intertested in arguing the toss with you, I'm simply pointing out you know nothing about football.
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I think bren is ace at picking out duds but less than ace at predicting football scores but then, who is?
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He does pick them out early but anyone can see that Nunez, Josemi etc. are duds after a game or too. What Brendan does is keeps hammering it home to a point it becomes boring. Lucas, Aurelio, Insua for example are not good enough for our first team but they don't derserve to be painted with the same brush as the real duds.
I do like the drama it causes though so long may it continue.
stubborn
I don't think Lucas is as bad as Brendan's posts would suggest or as good as Ryan's would suggest and I would suggest that they both know that.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=38346.msg1029873#msg1029873 date=1262975205]
I don't think Lucas is as bad as Brendan's posts would suggest or as good as Ryan's would suggest and I would suggest that they both know that.
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Yep, they have forced each other to take the polar opposite view point just to spite each other I'd say.
I don't think Lucas is as bad as Brendan's posts would suggest or as good as Ryan's would suggest and I would suggest that they both know that.
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Yep, they have forced each other to take the polar opposite view point just to spite each other I'd say.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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And hopefully they'll soon be reunited.
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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And hopefully they'll soon be reunited.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=38346.msg1029874#msg1029874 date=1262975252]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I know what you mean, but I was talking in regard to the 'big games'. I know he did give some good performances (like against Arsenal in the 'Mellor' match), but he also sold himself short a fair bit too.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I know what you mean, but I was talking in regard to the 'big games'. I know he did give some good performances (like against Arsenal in the 'Mellor' match), but he also sold himself short a fair bit too.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I reckon Lucas is good enough to play in the Premiership... and bad enough to ensure that a team don't make it into the top 4. He'd be a find if he was at Wigan, for example.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I reckon Lucas is good enough to play in the Premiership... and bad enough to ensure that a team don't make it into the top 4. He'd be a find if he was at Wigan, for example.
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=38346.msg1029874#msg1029874 date=1262975252]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I know what you mean, but I was talking in regard to the 'big games'. I know he did give some good performances (like against Arsenal in the 'Mellor' match), but he also sold himself short a fair bit too.
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I remember a game against Everton when Gerrard was set off, Alonso was instrumental in that win. He came off the bench against Sunderland in our first game of the season last year and was excellent when it mattered. That's just off the top of my head.
Ah anyway, what are we doing banging on about Alonso. Lets move on.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38346.msg1029864#msg1029864 date=1262974903]
Alonso
Clearly talented, started off well, had a few seasons of mediocrity with some inspired moments of genius and one big season when under pressure which saw us get as close as we have to the title. Often slow to move when left exposed and incapable of stepping up sometimes when it really mattered.
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That's a bit harsh on Alonso Mark. Some of his better games for us had been when Gerrard was injured or not playing.
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I know what you mean, but I was talking in regard to the 'big games'. I know he did give some good performances (like against Arsenal in the 'Mellor' match), but he also sold himself short a fair bit too.
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I remember a game against Everton when Gerrard was set off, Alonso was instrumental in that win. He came off the bench against Sunderland in our first game of the season last year and was excellent when it mattered. That's just off the top of my head.
Ah anyway, what are we doing banging on about Alonso. Lets move on.
I agree with my mate David.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38346.msg1029889#msg1029889 date=1262975843]
Yes. Lucas is the sort of player who, if he was playing for another club and it was rumoured we were interested everyone on here would complain and say he's not good enough.
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So what your really saying is that Lucas is Lee Cattermole.
Yes. Lucas is the sort of player who, if he was playing for another club and it was rumoured we were interested everyone on here would complain and say he's not good enough.
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So what your really saying is that Lucas is Lee Cattermole.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=38346.msg1029889#msg1029889 date=1262975843]
Yes. Lucas is the sort of player who, if he was playing for another club and it was rumoured we were interested everyone on here would complain and say he's not good enough.
He's not AWFUL but he doesn't really do anything.
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Well, he does plenty of stuff, it's just not always very good.
It's not always very bad either.
It's rarely great.
A club like Liverpool should have a great player in that position.
We should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that every manager in the league covets him and every opponent dreads him having a good name.
Maybe I don't really understand football very well but when I was a kid, the central midfield position always seemed very important to me because there's no facet of the game that is unaffected by his performance. I suppose I never really moved on from that view.
Yes. Lucas is the sort of player who, if he was playing for another club and it was rumoured we were interested everyone on here would complain and say he's not good enough.
He's not AWFUL but he doesn't really do anything.
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Well, he does plenty of stuff, it's just not always very good.
It's not always very bad either.
It's rarely great.
A club like Liverpool should have a great player in that position.
We should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that every manager in the league covets him and every opponent dreads him having a good name.
Maybe I don't really understand football very well but when I was a kid, the central midfield position always seemed very important to me because there's no facet of the game that is unaffected by his performance. I suppose I never really moved on from that view.
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