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SPECIAL REPORT: United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have SEVENTY players out on loan amid youth crisis... and here's why Moyes is backing Spanish-style 'B' teams

By ADAM SHERGOLD
PUBLISHED: 12:07, 5 February 2014 | UPDATED: 12:18, 5 February 2014


In a World Cup year, it surely cannot be long before the grumbling commences in earnest. Why can't we keep the ball like Spain? Why can't we work it out of tight spaces like Brazil? Why can't we counter-attack like Germany? Boo-hoo-hoo, we wanna be like you-hoo-hoo.

Everybody will have their own answers, their own grand narrative to cure the English malaise.

And that, precisely, may be the problem. For there remains no unified approach to carve an authentically English football identity.

Instead, it appears that uncertainty is on the youth football agenda once more, despite the façade of solidarity painted by The Football Association's long overdue amendments to the grassroots game - small-sided games on smaller pitches with smaller goals - and the Premier League's Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP).


These concerns are not publicly aired but they are bubbling away under the surface. They primarily surround the Premier League's recently formed Under 21 league, billed as the finishing school for this country's most talented young players and designed to counter the galling statistic that over three-quarters of this country's young stars drop out of the professional game between the age of 18 and 21, as revealed by The Independent.

Unfortunately, the evidence suggests that the major clubs simply do not believe in the initiative. Rather than fielding their young stars in the youth league, leading Premier League sides are increasingly opting to further their players' development by maximising the loan system.

As we stand after the January transfer window, Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool have a combined 70 players currently out on loan, 55 of whom are 21 or younger and at a critical stage of their development.

Certain clubs sense that the Under 21 league does not foster a sufficiently stimulating pathway between the academy and the first-team while others have noted that it does not present that same results-based pressure as players discover in the high intensity surroundings of the Football League.

It is thought to be too cosy, too sanitised, too easy for young players to drift along.

Manchester United are chief among these doubters and they loaned out 10 on deadline day alone. David Moyes commented to MUTV: 'You find the jump between the reserves and first team is so big nowadays. Maybe, in time, if there was a different sort of games programme, we wouldn’t need to put players out on loan.'

The Premier League are aware of the problem but they maintain, with justification, that the implementation of the new league was never going to be a silver bullet that could resolve every issue in one go.

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Shipped out: Romelu Lukaku has been sent on loan from Chelsea (left) to Everton (right)



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Italian job: Fabio Borini is enjoying his loan spell with Sunderland (right) after being odd man out at Liverpool



Next season will bring change to the structure of the competition for the third consecutive campaign, with the current 22-club division morphing into two divisions with promotion and relegation aimed at providing renewed motivation. The Premier League are also exploring avenues for a broadcasting deal that will further boost the profile.

They point to the success of Southampton, who do not have any players below the age of 21 out on loan. Their production line continues to churn, with Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse, Calum Chambers and more recently, Sam Gallagher among the young talents that have made the jump from the academy to first-team.

By way of retort, it should be noted that Southampton have now been producing players of world-class potential for a number of years and since well before the Premier League's recent initiatives. Theo Walcott, Gareth Bale and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain spring to mind while Shaw broke into the Southampton team in November 2012, just three months after the Under 21 league had been launched.

The Premier League also take confidence from the faith shown by Manchester City, whose 'holistic' approach brings a greater reluctance to loan out players, instead aiming to school their youngsters in the Catalan-inspired 'City Way'. Patrick Vieira's Under 21 team have won eight of their last nine in all competitions while the Under 18 side have won their last 13 matches. A couple of sharp performances from Marcos 'Rony' Lopes in the Capital One Cup aside, however, and there is little indication of progression to the first-team.

City, though, appear to be the exception, for the suspicion is that the major forces are becoming increasingly alienated.

One United player summed up the concerns to Sportsmail earlier this season: 'It's just not the same. The crowds are low, there isn't that buzz, or that pressure and expectation that you get with Football League games or first-team games.'

United's hostility towards the EPPP and the Under 21 division is nothing new. They have always had their doubts.

When the Premier League clubs were asked to vote on the issue, 19 clubs backed the reforms, with United the only exception. The bill was passed on account of at least two-thirds of the clubs being in favour.

Sportsmail can reveal the details of a letter distributed to staff by Les Kershaw, the club's former Chief Scout and Academy Director - who still works part-time - which was written a short while after the votes were counted.

Kershaw dismissed the new rules as 'totally confusing and inaccurate'. United were particularly concerned about the proposed coaching hours for the Under 12 to Under 16 age band - 20 hours per week - four hours per day - with the core coaching pencilled in between 9am and 5pm from Monday to Friday. The United academy coaches believed so many hours of coaching at such a young age to be 'impossible'.

There was also a swipe at the Premier League's methods of categorising clubs, with Kershaw saying: 'Fancy an assessment being made on the ticking and filling of boxes!!'

Executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward has gone on record to pledge his support for the Spanish model where leading clubs have 'B' teams playing in the lower divisions. Sportsmail understands that it is an initiative that would be backed by Moyes, who attempted to launch a second team during his time at Everton, only to be put off when the authorities insisted that the side start from the very bottom rung of English football. Should the debate seriously arise, it is a prospect that the Football League would vigorously seek to resist.

United are the most radical opponents but such lack of faith in the Under 21 league is becoming increasingly common elsewhere. Everton are rooted in the bottom-half of the Under 21 table and risk being relegated to the second tier next season, yet in January, they allowed six highly-rated young players to leave on loan for lower league sides.

This is not to say that there is anything chronically wrong with the loan system and nor should we forget its merits. It exposes young players to the challenge of playing in front of a visceral, demanding support - something that the youth league does not provide.

Immediate examples of successful loans spring to mind: Jack Wilshere and Daniel Sturridge benefited from half seasons at Bolton, Jermain Defoe scored in 10 games in a row at Bournemouth in the early part of his career, while much has been made of the circuitous route taken by Andros Townsend, who wore the shirt of nine different clubs between the age of 17 and 21.

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Making of the man: Livrepool star Daniel Sturridge enjoyed a successful spell on loan at Bolton in 2011


Yet the loan system is not flawless and remains a lottery, a gamble on a young player's happiness and career development that must be accurately judged. Last week, Larnell Cole signed for Fulham from United on a permanent deal, reuniting with Rene Meulensteen, who first coached the player at the age of eight.

In the first season of the Under 21 league, Cole scored a hat-trick in the semi-final against Liverpool and the winner in the final against Tottenham. Interestingly, Cole, a slight playmaker and now 20, never experienced a loan spell away from United.

The player's agent Peter Morrison explained to Sportsmail: 'Larnell was quite a unique case. He was technically way and above many of those around him but physically, he was still developing.


'Some clubs can fear sending players on loan because for all the benefits, playing in front of fans and the exposure to physicality as well as meaningful competition, the downside is they maybe don’t quite continue to work on the things they need to improve on, which means they could ultimately fall short of the required standard at their parent club when they return.

'With Larnell, there were opportunities to go out on loan in this window but prior to that, he was the kind of player that would have needed to have gone to a team that suited his style of play. Both the club and the player didn't feel that there was the right Championship club available.


Manchester meat market

The belief that the Under 21 league has become little more than a cattle market for lower league clubs to cherry-pick the smartest loan deals was underlined by the Manchester derby clash last week, which City won 2-1.

A source told Sportsmail that a brigade of at least 60 scouts, managers and dignitaries were in attendance and mingling after the game, including Wigan's Uwe Rosler, Carlisle's Chris Kavanagh, Bradford's Phil Parkinson and Doncaster's goalkeeping coach Paul Gerrard, who was making a personal check on United's Sam Johnstone.

Six players that started the game went out on loan before the transfer window closed.


'It is crucial that players are placed in good hands with coaches who will continue to develop them in the right way because league position alone is not a sufficient enough reason for players to join a club, despite the perception.’

In the case of Cole, he wasn't far away from the United first-team fold. He traveled with the squad to several away games, including the visit to Norwich on Boxing Day and he frequently trained with the first team. He did not start a first team game for the club, meaning his progress depended greatly on the Under 21 Premier League.

His agent continued: 'It was a tough decision for him to leave United. They were not pushing him out of the door, quite the opposite, but Larnell felt like there wasn't going to be too many opportunities in the near future and it had got to the stage where he wasn't going to improve anymore by playing in the Under 21 league for another 12 months.'

And this is where the Premier League are struggling to provide, for those players that clubs feel require more gentle guidance and cannot simply be dispatched on a trip down the motorway to return as a new man.

Premier League figures reveal that there are around 350-400 contracted players aged between 18 and 21 who do not go out on loan. As such, a more feasible games programme is needed to accommodate those players and the perhaps even greater number who clubs would prefer to avoid having to send out on loan.

The quest for a solution goes on, yet with such a diversity of views being promoted, we are left wondering whether the Premier League can ever discover a formula to unite the powers of English football.
 
Haven't the time to read all that now, I will later this evening.

However, have a like for the thread title. We need more Gilbert O'Sullivan thread titles.
 
The reserves play in lower leagues in most countries between the 3rd and 4th division.
They should do the same in England
 
but you always hear stories of how back in the day a young talented player was bought but didn't go straight into the first team , they started off in the reserves and learnt about the club there . So what was different then ? Was reserve team football better ?

I may be wrong but i get the impression that players of all ages who didn't play the first team game then would turn out for the reserves. With this U21 league they've tried to encourage that again by playing games on a Monday and allowing three players over 21 . But we don't seem to do that or use that option that often . It seems to me they are too worried about the subs and young lads near the first team getting injured but it is not a gamble we should take ? . I mean why don't the likes of Ibe , Aspas , alberto etc who sit on the bench most games play in these ? Surely match time of some sort will keep them sharper than just training . The pros outweigh the cons for me .

So if all the clubs played their best u21s in these games and a few 1st team players and subs then surely it would be a semi decent standard . If the clubs took it seriously and put importance on winning it , fuck even having winning bonuses for their players , then it might attract more attention and support .

Obviously though at the moment when they are not i am a big fan of sending players on loan . They need games and i don't see the point of them sitting around doing fuck all . People said Ilori played in the U21s but when i counted it , it was like 3 or 4 games in 4 months , that helps nobody .
 
but you always hear stories of how back in the day a young talented player was bought but didn't go straight into the first team , they started off in the reserves and learnt about the club there . So what was different then ? Was reserve team football better ?


No. There was just more of it, on a more regular basis. Clubs tended to bring in players who already had first team experience and had mastered their basic techniques, and then worked on fitting them into the new style of play. Terry McDermott is an example of that here. I guess the concern then developed that young players lacked good enough technique, so the approach switched to fewer games and more coaching, and that's now reached its own extreme. I do think they need a regular competitive reserve league, or a B league, to develop. There are far too many squad players just sitting around taking a wage - keepers, obviously, are my old moan in this context - and they're not going to be ready to look anything but out of sorts when they do get a first team chance. Take Aspas - he should be playing somewhere every week. In the short term maybe we should be organising our own matches against local clubs, but they need to play.
 
Championship is too high, best reserves teams go in the 3rd others in 4th or 5th for championship reserves teams. They can only get promotions to the 3rd division at best not higher.
Germany, Spain and France use that system and same here in Switzerland.
 
I see nothing wrong in a big club owning small club and being forced to sell its stake if it wins promotion to the premier league.
 
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