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doctor_mac said:
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I just watched that and my jaw hit the floor. The guy really is something very special. Have you ever read the Mo Salah thread on RedCafe? It's utterly hilarious! 😀

EDIT: Hey @doctor_mac - Here it is. http://www.redcafe.net/threads/mo-salah-on-the-phone-while-driving.426605/
EDIT 2: Check this beaut from 'PeteManic' - What a fucking whopper.

Just looks like a fancy Jermaine Pennant to me. Second rate player and shows the status of Liverpool compared to other European sides. Nothing especially exciting at all and they are treating it like they've signed Messi. 😀
 
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I think everyone is waiting for the dip.... but maybe that was the dip and now he will go back to craziness of a goal a game pretty much....

Its pretty unbelievable really, but this team is geared up for him Firmino and Mane to create chances galore....

It was so satisfying to see them on song again the other night....

Trouble is in the premier league they are now doubling up on him, I am surprised Klopp hasnt resorted to this 4-2-3-1 formation in the league yet, it seems way more balanced that 4-3-3.

I guess thats the future when Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri have bedded in completely.
 
Never thought I could love another player when Kevin Keegan left and then up pops Kenny. Since then I've loved a ton of red-shirt-wearing-goal-scoring-gods, some of whom have gone on to break my heart, but it was the leaving of Torres that finally broke me. I swore it would never, ever happen again, but then up pops Mo'......
 
Hansern said:
The way Hennessy has played this season, I'd say he's better than Forster.
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Agreed - Hennessey was expected to become back up at Palace when they signed Guaita but he has excelled since that signing was made.

Forster has been shite for the past two seasons. He's lost his reflexes and and such hit presence and decisions are taking a hit from lack of confidence. I see him ending up back in the Championship.
 
A lot has to do with the team and the players around him. Torres, Suarez, Owen, Fowler probably all would have scored loads more in this team and with this manager.
 
gene hughes said:
A lot has to do with the team and the players around him. Torres, Suarez, Owen, Fowler probably all would have scored loads more in this team and with this manager.
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I’m not so sure. In each case those players had systems especially constructed to maximise their threat. Torres for instance had the likes of Gerrard and Alonso providing ammunition and an absolute workhorse doing his running in Kuyt.
 
He might be talking about how defensive minded we were under Rafa.

Last season was certainly the most attacking I've ever seen us play.
 
Although after he picked up a niggle later in the season Salah was playing more centrally, and allowed to lessen his defensive work, for a large part of the season he was operating from the flank, and getting through a shit load of work. Would Micky Owen, Torres, or Fowler have been able to do the same job and score as many goals. I say no. Yes, we were an attacking side, but it was built on ball-breaking levels of hard work. Suarez would have thrived in this system though.
 
doctor_mac said:
Although after he picked up a niggle later in the season Salah was playing more centrally, and allowed to lessen his defensive work, for a large part of the season he was operating from the flank, and getting through a shit load of work. Would Micky Owen, Torres, or Fowler have been able to do the same job and score as many goals. I say no. Yes, we were an attacking side, but it was built on ball-breaking levels of hard work. Suarez would have thrived in this system though.
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I like Bobby but honestly I think I'd drop him in an instant for peak Suarez. He'd take this side to another level.
 
doctor_mac said:
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So many memories, such a beautiful progression from a newcomer with question marks around him to a consistent performer to a super-star, then a bit of a dip this season and now hopefully back again. A few moments stand out:
  • His first few goals were scrappy and seemed to reveal more of a winger-poacher than a top-class attacker. Arsenal was the first turning point: after missing a few good chances to beat Cech he then had that one-on-one from one penalty area to the other, Mane made that crucial run to block the approaching defender, Mo kept his cool finishing with a cute dink at Cech's near post and that was the first real moment of confidence.
  • The next few goals owe more to teammates laying it on the plate for him or luck (the deflected shot against Sevilla, the scuffed finish at Spurs). I think the opening goal against Maribor at home was an important step: at that point we were low on confidence after the Spurs result and struggling to create anything against a tight defense and then Trent produced an inspired short cross that led to the instinctive finish from Mo and the feeling grew that this player might be Liverpool's most consistent match-winner. Right then Klopp, sensing his growing confidence, for the first time changed the formation to play him up top (just like he did last game vs Red Star – a good sign) and Mo responded with 2 goals against typically accommodating West Ham defense.
  • Starting at the next game vs Southampton and pretty much until the end of the season, it's the superstar Mo. The goals fly in from all angles and the footwork is absolutely lethal. The opposition defenders start panicking and thus gifting him easy chances. The Everton goal is his best of the season, until it is bettered by Spurs 2nd, then by the Porto juggle, then by the screamer vs Roma. For me personally, the moment I realized that Mo has entered the super-star territory was when he rolled and outmuscled Harry Maguire for his 2nd against Leicester. That was the kind of goal I would only see from Suarez at his best at Liverpool and it was unthinkable earlier in the season.
  • Next we come into the category of crucial match-winning goals, delivering again and again under maximum pressure and on the biggest stage. The 40-yard dink over Ederson was the first. Spurs injury-time would-be winner another. The opposition fear factor reached its zenith against Watford with the 3rd goal particularly memorable for the way 3 defenders and GK turned into blind dumb sheep, allowing the lot of them to be beaten by a simplest of feints from the God-like Mo. And then came the most iconic moment of the season for me: the decisive 2nd away goal at Manchester City and that celebration, just facing the crowd and soaking in the dream being lived in real life.
  • Finally we come to this season. The finishes against Brighton and Huddersfield showed flashes of old sharpness and confidence, but the rest were scrappy or opportunistic and that's why the 2 against Red Star, once again trusted by Klopp to play up top, feel like an important step – there is every sign that Mo is on the way back to form and that's bad news for every opponent from now on.
 
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doctor_mac said:
I’m not so sure. In each case those players had systems especially constructed to maximise their threat. Torres for instance had the likes of Gerrard and Alonso providing ammunition and an absolute workhorse doing his running in Kuyt.
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I’m not sure the teams were built for the striker. I think the striker was good enough to still look good in the system.
 
doctor_mac said:
Lets put this guy in perspective. Torres scored 81 goals in his entire Liverpool career over 4 seasons.
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somehow a bit unfair. We loved Torres for a reason... he was the best ever striker to ever strike from a strrikers position due to the states of affairs.. Salah somehow must win us the CL or else some random Stoke player should have his position
 
Piedro said:
If I had to pick, Salah or Suarez. I’d go Suarez all day long. I’ve seen both play live, in every home game. And every away game on tv.

I love Mo, but the other fella was something else.
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Suarez had The Hunger. Mo is just ridiculously good at his job.
 
Piedro said:
If I had to pick, Salah or Suarez. I’d go Suarez all day long. I’ve seen both play live, in every home game. And every away game on tv.

I love Mo, but the other fella was something else.
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I'm with this as well. Mo is fantastic but Suarez was simply unbelievable
 
doctor_mac said:
Lets put this guy in perspective. Torres scored 81 goals in his entire Liverpool career over 4 seasons.
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Im pretty sure Suarez had a similar number, although he started in Jan so he had half a season less but played a similar number of games due to injury. I dont see any way possible for Salah to play here for another 3 years and not completely eviscerate the scoring records of Suarez and Torres.
 
Piedro said:
If I had to pick, Salah or Suarez. I’d go Suarez all day long. I’ve seen both play live, in every home game. And every away game on tv.

I love Mo, but the other fella was something else.
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Yeah I'll go with that. Were you there for that Norwich game (or maybe West Brom)? The drinkies one? He was utterly unplayable that day?
 
Insignificance said:
somehow a bit unfair. We loved Torres for a reason... he was the best ever striker to ever strike from a strrikers position due to the states of affairs.. Salah somehow must win us the CL or else some random Stoke player should have his position
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I'm not entirely sure I've understood you correctly there but, if you mean that Torres was the best out-and-out no.9 we've ever had, I don't agree. He was superb at his best, but depended heavily on the right kind of service. My nomination would be Rushy, who could score in the blink of an eye (and did a shedload of tracking back - he'd have been absolutely perfect in a Klopp team) from anywhere in and around the box.
 
Barba Roja said:
Yeah I'll go with that. Were you there for that Norwich game (or maybe West Brom)? The drinkies one? He was utterly unplayable that day?
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Same here. Stevie G reckons Suarez was the best striker he ever played with. All things considered (i.e.length of career included) King Kenny's our greatest ever player IMHO but, for sheer outrageous individual talent, Suarez is the best player I've ever seen in a Liverpool shirt.
 
Salah has been fantastic and exceeded everyone's expectations. His record is unbelievable, and he deserves full credit for it.

However, I'm joining Pete's Luis Suarez camp. That lad at his peak was something else.
 
Judge Jules said:
I'm not entirely sure I've understood you correctly there but, if you mean that Torres was the best out-and-out no.9 we've ever had, I don't agree. He was superb at his best, but depended heavily on the right kind of service. My nomination would be Rushy, who could score in the blink of an eye (and did a shedload of tracking back - he'd have been absolutely perfect in a Klopp team) from anywhere in and around the box.
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I have read it a few times myself. I see that I wrote it. Can't remember it. Probably it was irony that everyone worship him for being the best striker in the world and applaus whatever he did, while they want Salah on the benchs the minute he doesn't score for fun all the time or something. But it is hard to interprete complete strangers...😕
 
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Barba Roja said:
Yeah I'll go with that. Were you there for that Norwich game (or maybe West Brom)? The drinkies one? He was utterly unplayable that day?
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Yes mate, West Brom I think. The header from the edge of the box?

Suarez was just unreal. I don’t think I’ll see better. If I do, then we are fucking winning everything.
 
Piedro said:
Yes mate, West Brom I think. The header from the edge of the box?

Suarez was just unreal. I don’t think I’ll see better. If I do, then we are fucking winning everything.
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The fact he managed to get Aly cissokho to provide an assist shouldn't be downplayed
 
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