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2006-2007 Champions League Run

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Exactly, his teams were generally a lot more than the sum of their parts. Except the Torres/Gerrard/Alonso/Carragher/Reina/Mascherano/Aurelio/Arbeloa/Agger team of a couple of years later - that somehow felt like less than the sum of its parts.
 
We should have won that final too - had Crouch started, I think we would have too ... It was odd, 2005 was a wonderful, beautiful night for a team that wasn't near Milan's level. I thought 2007 was a team that was as good, if not better, and it was disappointing to win ...
 
LeTallecWiz said:
We should have won that final too - had Crouch started, I think we would have too ... It was odd, 2005 was a wonderful, beautiful night for a team that wasn't near Milan's level. I thought 2007 was a team that was as good, if not better, and it was disappointing to win ...
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Correction - if Bellamy started left wing instead of Zenden
 
Dreambeliever said:
Correction - if Bellamy started left wing instead of Zenden
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It was Rafa at his stubborn best - made an example out of Crouch - I remember when he did come on - and the Milan defence were like 'What the fuck is this ? - shit'. Should have won that should have been number 6 !!!
 
The fact that we made it to a champions league final with Zenden at left wing and Pennant at right wing should give Rafa some sort of legendary status alone
 
Crouch was a strange case for us. After a horrendous start and being much maligned for his first couple of seasons, he finally developed into a very decent squad option for us. Only to be sold. He could have been pretty useful for us over the last 10 years as an option off the bench.
 
I thought the same after watching that.
Rafa was his own worst enemy with all the chopping and changing of players.
 
Two things stood out for me there...

  1. Imagine Gerrard's drive and penetration from midfield in this Liverpool team of Klopp's. Fuck me.
  2. Rafa took a team of Pennant-crossing-it-to-Crouch to a Champions League final. He was a miracle worker.
 
That actual achievement of that run is often understated because we lost in the final. As per Ryan's post above, the fact that Rafa did it twice in a row truly was miraculous.

I wonder how differently things may have turned out had we beat Milan that day.
 
Ryan said:
Two things stood out for me there...

  1. Imagine Gerrard's drive and penetration from midfield in this Liverpool team of Klopp's. Fuck me.
  2. Rafa took a team of Pennant-crossing-it-to-Crouch to a Champions League final. He was a miracle worker.
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He signed Tennants and Crouch, so he was working "miracles" with the shite that he fucking bought.
 
Crouch did ok. If he'd have come in with Torres instead of as the main striker a year or so before, he'd have been a solid option for us for a few years and something resembling a plan B. He scored enough goals, once he actually started scoring. His overall record was 1 goal every 3-4 games.
 
mark1975 said:
Crouch did ok. If he'd have come in with Torres instead of as the main striker a year or so before, he'd have been a solid option for us for a few years and something resembling a plan B. He scored enough goals, once he actually started scoring. His overall record was 1 goal every 3-4 games.
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I really liked crouch. Unselfish striker who was a nightmare due to his skills and height
 
Fabio said:
I really liked crouch. Unselfish striker who was a nightmare due to his skills and height
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I don't suppose anyone needs reminding what I thought about him. I fucking hated him.

It's odd that I seem to come down on the "wrong side" of many "Liverpool Cult Hero" types, those classic underdog players that are shit for ages and then start becoming popular with the fans. Lucas was another one. Firmino another. Was Biscan one?
 
manwithnoname said:
I don't suppose anyone needs reminding what I thought about him. I fucking hated him.

It's odd that I seem to come down on the "wrong side" of many "Liverpool Cult Hero" types, those classic underdog players that are shit for ages and then start becoming popular with the fans. Lucas was another one. Firmino another. Was Biscan one?
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Lucas and biscan definitely. Bobby isn't a cult hero though. He's just liked. Similar to kuyt.
 
Fabio said:
Lucas and biscan definitely. Bobby isn't a cult hero though. He's just liked. Similar to kuyt.
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Firmino was a slow starter in every way. I always liked Kuyt, though. He was underrated by many.

But I think Kuyt is possibly the only one I can think of when I vigorously supported a player who did seem to split opinion. And I don't mean "split opinion" with mentalists who didn't rate Carragher, Alonso or whoever. I mean the ones who are genuinely and correctly debated

Usually I take a more detached view, and if the player concerned splits opinion, then I usually just correctly think they aren't fucking good enough, and shouldn't be in the team.

I mean, fucking hell, we've had posts on here defending the likes of Wijnaldum, Lovren, Mignolet, Markovic, Joe Allen, Kolo cunting Toure, Sakho, Karius, Aquilani - we could probably find a few saying Balotelli was a good signing. What a waste of effort.
 
One memory always sticks in my head thinking about that season. The week before our first game in the Champions League, a poster on here (who I'm pretty sure was Mark), made a great thread about the return of a European great in Robbie Fowler, tipping him to score a few goals and mark his return to Europe. Naturally he then went on to have a thoroughly average game.
 
Mystic said:
One memory always sticks in my head thinking about that season. The week before our first game in the Champions League, a poster on here (who I'm pretty sure was Mark), made a great thread about the return of a European great in Robbie Fowler, tipping him to score a few goals and mark his return to Europe. Naturally he then went on to have a thoroughly average game.
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I felt like an outcast because I didn't feel as excited about Fowler's return as everyone else. It was a bit depressing because he was so obviously past his best and it seemed another desperate, low-cost option.
 
manwithnoname said:
I felt like an outcast because I didn't feel as excited about Fowler's return as everyone else. It was a bit depressing because he was so obviously past his best and it seemed another desperate, low-cost option.
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Oh it 100% was

But fuck it, it was the fucking second coming init
 
Mind you, I remember saying when Kenny returned that he'd be doing well to get anywhere near matching Benitez's trophies at Liverpool (I think I might have said "half as well" or something along those lines) and also questioned his transfer record at Newcastle.

That went down well
 
manwithnoname said:
I felt like an outcast because I didn't feel as excited about Fowler's return as everyone else. It was a bit depressing because he was so obviously past his best and it seemed another desperate, low-cost option.
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It was purely a nostalgia trip, I still remember watching him play that season and thinking he looked so out of place, his physique was closer to Rafa's than that of a footballer by that point. I'm still glad we got him back though, great seeing him score again.
 
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