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Be easier just to bench Lovren.
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My mind always goes back to when we and the mancs were in for Roy Keane when he was ready to leave Forest. It felt like a pivotal moment, competing not only for a very good player but also one who'd greatly improve a key position in any ambitious team, and it felt as though whichever one got him would probably push away from the other. And of course that's what happened. After that we didn't just become the weaker team but also the one that the big players tended to listen to before saying 'thanks but no thanks' and signing for someone else. This probably isn't that big a deal (it was painfully obvious what Keane was going to do, whereas there's more room for doubt and debate in this case), but it could be very significant nonetheless - if we get a leader at the back, and a really powerful presence in the team, who knows, it could have a genuinely momentum-building effect. It's largely speculation, of course, but fingers crossed!
Oh I wasn't saying it would be how we start the season, just making a sly comment about how we will fuck up often enough for three at the back to be called for sooner or later
Same way I 'joked' about Karius and Mignolet swapping number one positions last season
It was Blackburn Rovers that Keane had agreed to join, not Liverpool, before United came in
I didn't say anything about agreeing to join us, I said that we were after him, which we were.
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/06/05/keane/
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/06/05/keane/
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How much is Southampton Football Club actually worth?
We could have made a bid for the whole club instead of buying Lovren, Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Mane and Van Dijk
We could have made a bid for the whole club instead of buying Lovren, Lallana, Clyne, Lambert, Mane and Van Dijk
There's two sides to this thread. On the sunny side of the fence it's:
On the other it's:
On the other it's:
We should consider paying them a flat rate of 10m a month and then taking the players we want every summer.
The look on their fans faces if we bought a transfer subscription in Southampton
I think it is about time we started getting a regular customer discount. We must have coupons from the past few seasons, surely?
We probably gave them a regular seller bonus
Why does the club we're buying him from matter? Southampton are a top 10 premier league side - and have been for a few years now.
United gave 30M to Leeds for Ferdinand, and 30M to Everton for Rooney - both middling clubs, and that was over a decade ago.
They got 10 years out of both, and both were unbelievably good signings. Say we get 8+ years out of this guy as the lynchpin of our defence, wouldn't you pay 50M for that?
I'm sick of potentially good players, or good-but-not-great types like Lovren, Wijnaldum, Clyne, etc. Continual 20-30M players that play one great game, and follow up it by being entirely invisible. Our defence is weak, and needs fixing - we're not going to do that with another 20M Michael Keane type.
Like most people, I'd say I watched VVD 3 or 4 times really closely last year (anyone who's seen more is free to educate us by the way) and he was outstanding. The injury-issues is another matter for sure, but if he stays fit then we're buying a better defender than anything we have. That's ok with me.
Something I asked on the Ludicrous Rumours thread a few days ago 😉
At least I waited a few days before redeploying your material.
I think you're conflating the good signing and statement signing arguments.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just find it hard to see him as a statement signing.
It is obvious that it is huge risk paying 60m on a defender who is not even proven in Europe. But if we have to move away from this stupid midtable club mentality of getting scared when we spend, we will never grow than we have been in last few seasons.
We have to sign players who are in the bracket of very good-potential to be WC. And have a plan that coach like Klopp can turn them into WC.
Risk but worth taking. Now Klopp has to make it work.
We have to sign players who are in the bracket of very good-potential to be WC. And have a plan that coach like Klopp can turn them into WC.
Risk but worth taking. Now Klopp has to make it work.
No, it is well beyond the 'twitter shit' stage. If it were the case that it was twitter rumours Rosco would be railing against the stupidity of people believing twitter rather than railing against the stupidity of people believing it is a good idea.
I've been hurt too many times!
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