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To which case we should ask £55m for Sturridge then
He has according to sites like Transfermarkt played his best fotball as left winger this season. Started 8 games, 2 goals and 3 assists. His problem at Arsenal has probably been that he hasnt gotten a spesific role or position to develop in.
If we sign him and Klopp has plan to develop him in for one spesific role, you might see some of that massive potential being realised.
If we sign him and Klopp has plan to develop him in for one spesific role, you might see some of that massive potential being realised.
The commentators were equally confused with Walcott after he scored against Citeh a few weeks ago. Something along the line of "Not sure he deserves his place in this team, he does nothing much else besides scoring or providing assists."
I think Walcott is twice the player
260/65
vs
125/9
And even when you break it down to their careers at the same stage it's
175/35
vs
125/9
Walcott every day for me
Taking Walcott at 23 would have been a no-brainer for me. However - at this stage I think he is short on good years left, and is losing his main asset. Agreed that if comparing Walcott to Ox then it is clear based on what has currently been achieved there is a gulf, but Ox has his career ahead of him.
I think it is decent if he played a small portion of his games as a striker. Howecer he should have cemented gis place as their first name on the teamsheet but haven't managed that over all these years.
For the money mentioned, I'd rather we tried to land Volland as an option to add depth to the front three positions.
He adds strength to both the midfield and wide positions. He works hard and is technically able. I can see why Klopp would want him. He covers two positions we need but whether that gives him the platform to become a better player I'm not so sure. As others have said, he needs a set position at his age. £35m is too steep. I'd be fine with £25m.
Ox is cock, no thanks.. He is like a poor man's Barkley.. So that's makes him even more inconsistent.
What's the point in raiding non champion league clubs for their bit part players if we want to be seen competing at the highway level next season.
What's the point in raiding non champion league clubs for their bit part players if we want to be seen competing at the highway level next season.
Would be nice option to throw on the last 20 today.
No thanks.
He has some decent attributes, but ultimately if an attacking player can't score or create goals, those attributes aren't of much use.
His scoring record is absolutely abysmal. 20 goals in his entire Arsenal career - over 6 seasons.
7-8 goals per season is the bare minimum you need from your AMs. This guy averages about 2-3. Nothing I've seen makes me believe there's ever going to be a significant change in that output either.
He has some decent attributes, but ultimately if an attacking player can't score or create goals, those attributes aren't of much use.
His scoring record is absolutely abysmal. 20 goals in his entire Arsenal career - over 6 seasons.
7-8 goals per season is the bare minimum you need from your AMs. This guy averages about 2-3. Nothing I've seen makes me believe there's ever going to be a significant change in that output either.
£30m for a squad player? Worlds gone mad.
But if we can afford to spend this on a player for that, then perhaps we have plenty of money to improve the first XI. I'm setting myself up for a fall aren't I?
But if we can afford to spend this on a player for that, then perhaps we have plenty of money to improve the first XI. I'm setting myself up for a fall aren't I?
Arsenal will probably have to settle for a fee of 20-25 mill £.
If we can get him for that, then I'm okay with it.
In regards to goal return. He has got 6 goals and 6 assists this season, despite not being a regular starter. Thats clearly an improvement.
As said earlier there are probably other targets that we want "more" than him.
If we can get him for that, then I'm okay with it.
In regards to goal return. He has got 6 goals and 6 assists this season, despite not being a regular starter. Thats clearly an improvement.
As said earlier there are probably other targets that we want "more" than him.
Surely we can do better than the likes of Volland...
I'll be gutted if we get ox at any price. He's more injury prone than sturridge.
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I think he's shit but that just proves we should sign him........
Mane's shown this season what a player with pace and goals can add to the team.
Oxlade adds only the pace, not the goals.
Klopp is right we badly need to add a wide player - but there's very little point adding a player who doesn't add genuine creativity or goals.
For 35 million, we could target the likes of Mahrez, Douglas Costa (who's looking to leave Bayern), Gnabry, Lemar, Lucas Moura or even Mohamed Salah. I'm sure I could name a few more if I put some thought to it.
They're players who've shown genuine match-winning ability, and shouldn't really be beyond us either as long as we get Champions League football.
Going after Oxlade-Chamberlain would be showing our usual lack of imagination in the transfer market.
Compare him to the wide options that City or Chelsea have - Sane, Sterling, Jesus, Hazard, Pedro, Willian.
Just about everyone represents a better goal threat than him. We've done well adding Mane to our team. Let's get a player of a similar calibre.
Oxlade adds only the pace, not the goals.
Klopp is right we badly need to add a wide player - but there's very little point adding a player who doesn't add genuine creativity or goals.
For 35 million, we could target the likes of Mahrez, Douglas Costa (who's looking to leave Bayern), Gnabry, Lemar, Lucas Moura or even Mohamed Salah. I'm sure I could name a few more if I put some thought to it.
They're players who've shown genuine match-winning ability, and shouldn't really be beyond us either as long as we get Champions League football.
Going after Oxlade-Chamberlain would be showing our usual lack of imagination in the transfer market.
Compare him to the wide options that City or Chelsea have - Sane, Sterling, Jesus, Hazard, Pedro, Willian.
Just about everyone represents a better goal threat than him. We've done well adding Mane to our team. Let's get a player of a similar calibre.
Douglas Costa for £35m you sure?
You've made this bit up.
Sturridge's last 3 appearances (League/All comps) 16/17 - 15 (22), 15/16 - 14 (25), 14/15 - 12 (18)
Oxlades last 3 appearances (League/All comps) 16/17 - 25 (39), 15/16 - 22 (33), 14/15 - 23 (37)
Let's not forget, Sturridge absence is all due to injuries, Oxlade mostly because he was dropped/ unused sub.
OK, let's compare: Jesus Navas – 0 goals, 2 assists this season. 0 goals last season, 0 goals the season before that. Willian scored 2-4 goals per season until the last couple of seasons, when he got 5-6 per season in his very prime. Hazard, Pedro, Sane and Sterling are all strikers or wing-forwards – they need someone else to defend and supply the ammunition to them. I do agree with you that we need to buy someone like Mahrez, Gnabri or Salah to bolster our attacking line (especially with Sturridge likely leaving), but I just want to make a point that teams also need players like the Ox or Willian who might not produce great goal-scoring numbers, but still contribute enough in the overall play to justify their selection.
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