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Frogfish

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Fans could be banned from stadiums until March
There was also significant developments away from the pitch last night, with the news that fans may not to be able to return to watch live sporting events in England until the end of March at the earliest.

At a meeting on Tuesday, sports governing bodies - including those from football, rugby, cricket, Formula 1 and horse racing - were told to prepare for no spectators throughout the winter.

Officials from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) told the meeting, which was attended by Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden, that the ban on fans will be kept under review.

Earlier on Tuesday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson outlined a range of new restrictions for the country, including confirmation that plans to allow fans to return to sport from 1 October would not go ahead.
 
Just so long as masses of Geordie girls can still get pissed every weekend and cough all over the place, nothing else matters. I blame the civil service.
 
Silver Sean said:
Don't go out. Go out. Work from home. Get back to the office, you lazy wankers. Buy a Pret sarnie. go to Nandos. Eat out to help out out. Stay in. Only go out until 10pm. Stay away from people. Get back onto public transport.
Bizarre that it's all gone pear shaped isn't it?
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You missed off "This is all your own for not following the rules!"

Fucking ridiculous that these cunts still have their heads attached to their bodies, never mind that they're still in charge of the country.
 
I don't get it. COVID is almost exclusively transmitted indoors; having fans at a 1/3 or 1/4 capacity in a huge outdoor stadium seems like exactly the kind of thing that is both low-risk and provides a sense of return to normalcy to a significant number of people, not to mention the economic benefit. Why should the government's failure to contain the virus in other areas (care homes, restaurants etc) doom the one thing that could on balance be quite helpful?

Watching the Juve game the other day, they had around 1000 fans in the stadium and even that made the game feel much more real – there was a real feedback between the team and the fans, despite the greatly reduced numbers. There is arguably more difference between playing for 1000 or no one than between playing for 1000 and 50,000.
 
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The whole thing is twisted - in Dublin the growth rate is high, and the vast majority of infections happen in the home. So to combat this they are closing pubs & restaurants (where controls would be in place) ... thereby encouraging people to entertain at home. Yes, that is "banned", but impossible to police, unlike restaurants & pubs

Anyway - feck the dubs
 
Latest official survival rates, per the CDC.

0 to 19 - 99.997%
20 to 49 - 99.98%
50 t0 69 - 99.5%
70+ - 94.6% chance.

36x more likely to die by choking on food. Which, given the average sports fan, is probably low.

Lock it all down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
tombrown said:
The whole thing is twisted - in Dublin the growth rate is high, and the vast majority of infections happen in the home. So to combat this they are closing pubs & restaurants (where controls would be in place) ... thereby encouraging people to entertain at home. Yes, that is "banned", but impossible to police, unlike restaurants & pubs

Anyway - feck the dubs
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I don't get the home infections thing, surely it's a given when someone gets it, they'll pass it onto the other people in their house, so it's a given that those rates will be really high. The real question is how the first person in the house gets it, that's the part that needs to be prevented.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
I don't get the home infections thing, surely it's a given when someone gets it, they'll pass it onto the other people in their house, so it's a given that those rates will be really high. The real question is how the first person in the house gets it, that's the part that needs to be prevented.
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Funny you should mention that. One of my wife's clients, an importer in Mexico, has just been confirmed with CV-19 - of course he is part of a large multi-generational family at home. All were tested - none had it except him!

Mind blown.
 
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Gerry_A_Trick said:
I don't get the home infections thing, surely it's a given when someone gets it, they'll pass it onto the other people in their house, so it's a given that those rates will be really high. The real question is how the first person in the house gets it, that's the part that needs to be prevented.
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A lot of people are ignoring restrictions but the shocking lack of proper contact tracing is a big part of the spike in cases. They're not acting fast enough to close out clusters. Like said above there will be more people socialising at each other's houses now too.

The worst hit areas in Dublin are generally the less affluent ones where people are less likely to work from home so they have more chance of catching it working than others. Then it spreads from there. When you've got a Government fully refusing to take on employers who aren't looking after employees (like the meat plants) and lack of sick pay for employees you've got a problem. It's a bit fucking rich for that prick Varadkar to start saying they have to sort sick pay now. He's been in Government a decade. Anyway Donegal following us in Dublin into level 3, or level 3+, or level 3.5 or whatever it, even though it's a massive county and the outbreak is mostly in one part of it.
 
tombrown said:
The whole thing is twisted - in Dublin the growth rate is high, and the vast majority of infections happen in the home. So to combat this they are closing pubs & restaurants (where controls would be in place) ... thereby encouraging people to entertain at home. Yes, that is "banned", but impossible to police, unlike restaurants & pubs

Anyway - feck the dubs
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I love how they said they had no proof but it happened in other countries so that must be what happened here. It's like when they were asked to produce the evidence they said they had that pubs created clusters and they released links to the Guardian and the Ney York Times. The HSE in particular (I assume they're in charge on contact tracing)has made a balls of this.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
I don't get the home infections thing, surely it's a given when someone gets it, they'll pass it onto the other people in their house, so it's a given that those rates will be really high. The real question is how the first person in the house gets it, that's the part that needs to be prevented.
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Yep.

Also, it's obviously going to be higher, cos they do some tracing. Which they do by asking who you live with.

They can't say "when you got on the train, who grabbed that pole after you?" "when you pressed the lift button who pressed it next?" etc etc.

So it spreads but you can't trace it, but you can trace the spread to the household. It's common fucking sense.
 
FoxForceFive said:
Yep.

Also, it's obviously going to be higher, cos they do some tracing. Which they do by asking who you live with.

They can't say "when you got on the train, who grabbed that pole after you?" "when you pressed the lift button who pressed it next?" etc etc.

So it spreads but you can't trace it, but you can trace the spread to the household. It's common fucking sense.
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Unless you're in Singapore. They have an ace system now. A plastic disk you keep on you that traces your steps and connects with everyone's else's plastic disk when in their proximity, so they know exactly who the infected person has been in contact with or close to. Try explaining that to the Missus !

Of course in the UK/USA etc. it will be an infringement on civil rights/liberties so no chance of that working over there.
 
Frogfish said:
Unless you're in Singapore. They have an ace system now. A plastic disk you keep on you that traces your steps and connects with everyone's else's plastic disk when in their proximity, so they know exactly who the infected person has been in contact with or close to. Try explaining that to the Missus !

Of course in the UK/USA etc. it will be an infringement on civil rights/liberties so no chance of that working over there.
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That's cool. The NHS app is good, but no one trusts it after the first debacle, even those this time it's the Google/Apple API it's using.
 
Aidan O' Neill said:
A lot of people are ignoring restrictions but the shocking lack of proper contact tracing is a big part of the spike in cases. They're not acting fast enough to close out clusters. Like said above there will be more people socialising at each other's houses now too.

The worst hit areas in Dublin are generally the less affluent ones where people are less likely to work from home so they have more chance of catching it working than others. Then it spreads from there. When you've got a Government fully refusing to take on employers who aren't looking after employees (like the meat plants) and lack of sick pay for employees you've got a problem. It's a bit fucking rich for that prick Varadkar to start saying they have to sort sick pay now. He's been in Government a decade. Anyway Donegal following us in Dublin into level 3, or level 3+, or level 3.5 or whatever it, even though it's a massive county and the outbreak is mostly in one part of it.
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I was due to go to Donegal for a week this Sunday. Oh well [emoji853]
 
Meanwhile, the UEFA Super Cup is on at the moment between Bayern and Sevilla in Budapest with 20 000 fans in the stadium.

Nice to see that.
 
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