Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Pesam, Nov 11, 2019.
According to talksport we are in advanced talks to sign Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth in January.
We were linked with him a bit in summer, too. I've not really seen much of him, all I think is "Quick, tricky, Scottish winger. Small"
And then I think it's John McGinn
Could turn out to be fantastic for us but after season he's having.....anything over 30m would be a waste
We probably will need some cover players in Jan but we should start at LB
I like McGinn a lot - he is like Robbo if Robbo played CM.
I liked Fraser but reading what Bournemouth fans thought put me off a bit, they don't seem hugely fussed on losing him
He reminds me of a young James Milner
Nor were hull about robbo. Fraser got 7 goals and 14 assists last season.
Whilst it's usually a good barometer, it's worth remembering that Hull fans weren't fussed about losing Robbo either.
A young Milner?! Yes, please.
What made the deal even sweeter is that in the same summer we sold kevin Stewart to hull for 8m
And they paid us back 5 million for Kevin Stewart in the same summer.
Wonderful sequence of Quiff and counter Quiff just there.
I'm defence of my earlier seeming quiff, I typed it out before the earlier post had appeared, it was there once I sent the post though.
Me too. Watched him a few times and been impressed with his work rate at both ends of the pitch. Decent skills, hard worker.
Good player, not sure if he's good enough for us but a good player nonetheless.
He's a strange one is Fraser. I watched a lot of lower league football a few years back and I remember him as an impact sub for Bournemouth who never really impressed (apart from his frenetic all-action commitment to the cause) but he never really was given much of a chance. He was loaned to Ipswich (the season that Bournemouth were to win promotion to the PL) and I think Bournemouth would have been happy enough to sell him at that stage (even though he was still only about 21),
He was a revelation in a very poor Ipswich team and quickly established himself as their main player and added a bit of substance to his energetic style. Bournemouth obviously liked what they saw because they got promoted and next season he became a regular in the PL. The step up in class actually seemed to suit him and he did very well. He'll never be the most sophisticated player on the pitch but his effort is impressive and he has developed into a decent player.
Someone mentioned Lundstram the other day and it made me smile because he has been one of my favourite lower league players for quite a few years (I was amazed to find out he's still only 25) because he has looked decent and classy at every lower league club BUT not decent enough (i.e. he didn't do enough to convince me he could play in the PL) for me to ever suggest we signed him.
It made me think of certain players who can look decent (not top quality) at lower levels but can also raise their game as the go up through the divisions, these players are very hard to spot. Bournemouth's Steve Cook being an example, he played many games in the bottom 2 divisions and was always solid but there was little evidence he could survive against top forwards but he has thrived.
The best LFC example I can think of (and Fraser is similar in style) was Ray Houghton who we signed from Oxford United almost as an after-thought (when we also signed Aldridge). There was little to suggest that Houghton had the quality needed for the top division although his workrate was never in doubt but he went on to have a very good career with us.
If we sign Fraser I reckon Shaq is a goner. I like Fraser but I am not sure he's going to have quite the same impact that Houghton had.
This post is all over the place but I am trying to sort the kids out for dinner/bathtime so apologies.
Bit of an assist king last season.. Not really got off to the best of starts this season..
Surely recalling Wilson would have been a better option??
I think Shaq's a goner regardless of if we sign Fraser or someone else in midfield as his replacement. £30m plus bid and he's gone
Have a like for the thread title BTW!