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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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For fucks sake, no bricking this bus please....
She went full autistic. You never go full autistic.
I have often wondered where Dantes is on the scale.
Why isn't the poor bastard driver in a hazmat suit when the other staff on the bus are?
Public Health England assured the bus company that the drivers did not need hazmat suits.
Then proceeded to get their staff to all put them on. Fuck me. He must have been shitting one.
Then proceeded to get their staff to all put them on. Fuck me. He must have been shitting one.
You can see he is shit scared - the guy in the hazmat obviously has a gun pointed at his back.
There's an article in The Lancet today that has modeled transmission and dispersion. Basically it's out (because in the month leading up to the 'discovery' huge numbers of people had already traveled out of Wuhan and onto major cities such as Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and HK - and from there to the world) and no matter how much Wuhan is quarantined the genie is already out of the bottle (no surprise there). They also forecast the peak, which will die off quickly, to be between March and June depending on the model used.
Hahahahaha don't let the word "model" fool you. They just got a bunch of historical data, calculated a mean and standard deviation, and then made the parameters slightly bigger and smaller on excel. This is why you need autistics to model your data, properly, with intelligence. The alternative is death.
Not quite. Suggest you go read the article. Though I'm sure, as you say, that Dantes could do a better job !
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...00LgSvyBiTL3OgQaGxCjp6fpTIeDs0yXgSfaMkZvGIa6M
Indeed, their modelling isn't as bad as I thought, but you literally picked the worst possible set of graphs from the entire article to quote in your post. Next time opt for the differential equations.
Nope. I went for the graphs that best showed the peak times of infection and when it drops-off. That's of the most importance to us here even if you find others interesting.
Dear Chinese people, stop eating stir-fried snake, bat soup and chop suey rats.
Thanks.
I mean, how hard is it? Every time one of these outbreaks happens it's because someone is eating a monkey, or fucking it or something equally bizarre and repulsive.
Thanks.
I mean, how hard is it? Every time one of these outbreaks happens it's because someone is eating a monkey, or fucking it or something equally bizarre and repulsive.
Jesus Christ. You would think they have a monopoly on it. You have certainly lived a sheltered life it seems considering your delicate Western sensibilities!
For me it's clearly isn't what people eat but whether they should be eating it for moral or health reasons (shark fin, bear bile, Rhino penis etc.) at all. Then of course how the animal is kept both before and after slaughter. Until the world's supply has been totally diminished / extinct and we are all living on mushrooms and tofu that is.
It was fun (viz : sometimes I puked) researching this list !
UK : Black Pudding (mainly congealed blood) / Tripe / Haggis (sheep’s heart, liver and lungs minced and mixed with onions, oatmeal, suet and seasoned with salt and spices cooked inside the animal’s stomach) / Horse / Sheep/Pig balls / raw Shellfish
China (and also sold in New England !) : Too many to count but inc. Blood Clams which are actually illegal in China because of it, so much so that anyone who gets caught selling them is fined 10 times what they make. But they still kill 30 people a year !
Iceland : Hakarl (rotting carcass of a Greenland or basking shark)
Peru : Guinea Pigs
Vietnam : Still beating Cobra heart.
East Asia, Caribbean, South America and South Africa : Chicken’s Feet
Italy & France : Horses
France (& international): Frogs
France (& international) : Snails
France (& international) : Steak Tartare served with a Raw Egg
The West : Foie Gras
Africa : Stink Bugs (alive)
Africa : can't even begin to list the number of other 'weird' foods but basically, like China, anything that moves !
Africa : Bushmeat (Covering all manner of animals from the African plains, bushmeat includes flesh of wildlife like giraffe, lemurs and even apes. It’s a strange one, considering how close an ape’s DNA is to a human’s, almost on the verge of cannibalism. Not only is bushmeat bad for conservation efforts, it’s also believed to spread Ebola and may be the part of the reason for the current outbreak.)
World Over : Snake (esp. Southern USA - Fried Rattlesnake)
USA/Aus/Africa : Crocodile/Alligator
USA : Fried Gizzards (usually chicken or turkey)
USA : Stinkheads (fermented head of a king salmon, buried underground in for a few weeks and eaten as a pungent, putty-like mush)
Asia : Bear Bile
Mexico : Escamol (edible larvae and pupae of ants)
South East Asia : Spiders / Grasshoppers / Worms / Grubs
Japan/USA : Live Urchin Gonads
Japan : Shirako (essentially a cod’s sperm sac)
Japan : Wasp Crackers
Italy : Casu Marzu
Also known as ‘maggot cheese’, this traditional Sardinian dish is sheep’s milk cheese famous for containing live insect larvae. Apparently these wiggling little maggots are supposed to enhance the flavour, but are prone to jump when they panic, so watch your eyes. Some people suffocate them or kill the beasties in the fridge before consuming, but others go for the live version. Sometimes they survive the stomach and burrow into your intestines.
Australia (and many other countries) : squirming caterpillars and worms & moth larvae
USA : Rocky Mountain Oysters (Bull, sheep or pig testicles)
Philippines : Balut (A developing duck embryo that’s boiled alive in its shell. As well as sounding incredibly harsh, it looks incredibly unappetising. Still, it’s a common street food).
Japan : odori don (live octopus)
Guam : Fruit Bat Soup : rinse off the bat, boil it, chop some vegetables (sometimes), douse everything in coconut milk, serve. Notice how "shave the bat" is conspicuously absent from that list. Fur is eaten along with eyes, wings, and just about everything else that's not bone.
Greenland : Kiviaq (get ready this one is truly disgusting) : it is the result of 18 months of preparation, preservation, and fermentation, all of which are euphemisms for leaving it to rot under a pile of rocks. Kiviaq is death stuffed into yet more death, left to decay into the world's most macabre pinata: a sack of seal skin stuffed with the slowly liquefying bodies of hundreds of birds (yes, hundreds). Sure, the end result might be a withered mass of decomposed meat slurry, but it's edible, dammit, and that's what's important. That and smothering it in seal fat to ward off flies. Can't have flies. And no .. No, you don't cook it.
And if that's not enough :
Canada : The Sourtoe Cocktail ! (Human Big Toe)
The Canadian bar that serves the toes doesn't want anyone getting anything more than psychologically ill from their delightful beverage, so the digits are first drained of all bodily fluids and pickled.
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And 'hygiene' is an alien word
If it doesn't kill you it'll make you stronger.And 'hygiene' is an alien word
Unless it's a stroke.
Yeah, the wet markets where they have loads of wild species all eating and shitting next to each other, this would never happen in the wild and its where viruses jump the species barrier and mutate. This isn't a problem in the production of black pudding or whatever. They're banned in China since sars, but they still exist, and here we are.
Nah they weren't banned mate. The Govt. recently issued a temporarily ban closing them due to this epidemic. Hopefully this will lead to a permanent ban though.
I had some podcast on quoting from a book by a virologist who'd predicted this outbreak and it stemming from wet markets, and the undercover bit where they're buying all kinds of cobra and alligators and bears were in an illegal market. It might be the types of animals and / or the conditions that weren't legal in that case or something
Yeah many types of animals are banned ... but that doesn't stop them ! Many black markets exist but at least the banning of the open wildlife markets would massively reduce the risks of new viruses or cross species transmission of existing viruses. Many types of birds are banned from capturing and sale .. but a trip just 3 kms down the road to the local pet market will find many of them on open sale. Policing the laws is a huge issue here (mostly due to ignorance).
I'll quote from my 'weird foods' post above :
.... Blood Clams which are actually illegal in China because of it (due to hepatitis in ca. 16% of those consuming them), so much so that anyone who gets caught selling them is fined 10 times what they make. But they still kill 30 people a year ! *also around 300,000 p.a. fall ill from consumption.