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This'll throw the (black) cat amongst the pigeons.

FA told Graham Taylor not to pick ‘too many’ black players for England
• Exclusive: new book claims FA tried to impose unofficial quota system
• There is no suggestion former England manager adhered to the policy


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A new book recounts former England manager Graham Taylor saying that senior figures within the FA attempted to pressure him to keep the national team predominantly white. Photograph: PA
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The Football Association tried to impose an unofficial quota system on the number of black players an England manager should be allowed to use, according to a new book about racism within the sport.
Pitch Black, written by Emy Onuora, includes a passage in which an anti-racism in football campaigner claims Graham Taylor admitted to him he had been summoned by two members of the FA’s hierarchy and told “in no uncertain terms” he should not go beyond a certain limit.
There is absolutely no suggestion that Taylor, with a long history of working with some of England’s leading black players over the past 30 years, adhered to this policy but the book recounts him saying there were senior figures trying to put pressure on him to keep the team predominantly white.
Taylor is said to have revealed this during a function at Watford’s ground during the 1999-2000 season when Richie Moran was the guest speaker. Moran, a Birmingham City player in the 1990s who eventually quit the game because of the racial abuse he suffered, recalls in the book: “Graham Taylor came up to me and said: ‘Look, I’m going to tell you something … I’m never going to admit it, I will be sued for libel.’ He said: ‘When I was manager of England I was called in by two members of the FA, who I won’t name …’ I volunteered two names. He said: ‘I’m not prepared to say, but I was told in no uncertain terms not to pick too many black players for the national side.’”
This also ties in with a Kick It Out function on its 10th anniversary in 2004, attended by Taylor, when it was reported a former England manager had revealed the same conversation to other guests but declined to go public. The Guardian has spoken to one of the event’s organisers, another senior figure in football-related race issues, who said he could confirm Taylor was the manager quoted.
Taylor has been made aware of the book and told the Guardian he could not specifically remember the conversation with Moran. “That is not me trying to evade it – and it also doesn’t mean I didn’t say it – but if anyone looks at my record with club and country it would be obvious to everyone anyway that I didn’t follow what was apparently said. If anyone looks at my record, I could never be accused of blocking the way for any black player.”
However, Taylor later went on BBC Radio Five Live and said: “Certainly never during my time at the Football Association I had no FA people coming up to me and telling me which team to pick and to pick less black players. I would have remembered that.
“I have no memory of that conversation (with Moran). There certainly was an event at Watford. I can remember that, but I certainly have no memory of a conversation about black players.
“They’ve gone ahead - as I understand it, what I’ve said to them privately has just got out. Or what I’m accused of saying to them privately, which I deny and can’t remember it, they’ve gone out publicly and said it and yet they’re saying themselves it was said to them privately.
“Oh it’s very private then to publish a book about it, isn’t it? There was never any interruption, there was never anyone coming in and asking, ‘Why have you selected him?’ I never had any problems regarding team selection concerning black players from the Football Association.
“I’m going to have to take some form of legal advice here. To have my name linked into this kind of thing is totally wrong.”
Moran, speaking to the Guardian on Wednesday night, refuted Taylor’s denials. “I have a very vivid memory of the conversation. My then girlfriend said to me after he’d told me ‘who was that?’. I said: ‘it’s the former England manager!’ . She said: ‘Well why did he tell you that then?’.
“I’ve mentioned it on numerous occasions, and I’ve even had a cease and desist letter, I think seven years ago, from the FA. But I’m happy for them to sue me for two reasons. One: I don’t have any personal assets for them to take. And two: I’m telling the truth.
“I’m not saying for one moment that Graham Taylor had any intentions ... all I’m saying is that that is a conversation I had with him. I have no reason to make it up.”
Onuora’s book, officially launched on Friday, makes the same point – that there is no claim that Taylor acted upon any pressure – but the allegations do potentially raise serious questions about the attitudes of some FA figures during a period of the game – Taylor managed England from 1990 to 1993 – when the sport was supposed to be leaving behind the more obvious elements of racism from previous decades. The FA has been notified about the claim and chosen not to comment. No members of the current FA board were in charge at the time of the allegation.
Onuora, whose brother Iffy was a striker for nine professional clubs and later managed the Ethiopia national team, has a masters degree in ethnic studies and race relations and has lectured extensively on issues of race and sport. His analysis is that Taylor is unlikely to be the first England manager to have been given these instructions in the past.

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“Moran’s revelation reveals that the FA’s primary concern was to preserve a predominantly white image of the England team, an image that they themselves had constructed and took great steps to preserve,” the author writes.
“There is no question of Taylor having acted on those instructions, but the episode raises some important questions as to how many other England managers were given the same instructions and therefore felt pressurised to limit the numbers of black players selected to play for the national side.
“During his playing career, Paul Davis had wondered whether some kind of unofficial quota system was in operation, but had never considered it beyond mere speculation. It would raise the question of how many black players had had their chances of playing for England restricted and what impact this might have had on England’s fortunes.”
 
Is anyone really surprised?

The cunts running the fa are pre-historic in their attitude I've always expected them to be a bunch of closet homophobes and racists.

When was Taylor the England manager, the early 90s?
 
The only surprise would be that it's as far back as the 90's.

Wait till they find out women play football.
 
It's total bullshit. Didn't Taylor have the first ever black captain in ince. Just a bloke trying to hype his book.
 
It's total bullshit. Didn't Taylor have the first ever black captain in ince. Just a bloke trying to hype his book.


I think you've misread it. He's not saying Taylor did it, just that the FA advised him to.

But yeah, there's a strong possibility that this guy is looking for publicity.
 
He's apparently done some radio interview somewhere in which he issued an angry denial and said nobody had actually spoken to him about this.
 
The fella who wrote that book is the dad of a lad I've known for about 20 years. Not sure where he's got the info from.
 
The fella who wrote that book is the dad of a lad I've known for about 20 years. Not sure where he's got the info from.
Emy Onuora is an old mate of mine. I remember his kids being born, so probably have known your mate longer than you :)

Emy's an Evertonian, but dont hold that against him - he's a decent lad. In fact when we signed John Barnes he had to stop going to derby matches as he constantly got into fights with his fellow blues when the racism started.

Good looking f'cker as well

His brother once played for Hartlepool (or some other lower league team beginning with H) and now manages the Ethiopa national team. My claim to fame was that we once went to watch him play against Tranmere & got an invite to the players lounge - where I drank a half pint of lager that David Fairclough just left down
 
Emy Onuora is an old mate of mine. I remember his kids being born, so probably have known your mate longer than you :)

Emy's an Evertonian, but dont hold that against him - he's a decent lad. In fact when we signed John Barnes he had to stop going to derby matches as he constantly got into fights with his fellow blues when the racism started.

Good looking f'cker as well

His brother once played for Hartlepool (or some other lower league team beginning with H) and now manages the Ethiopa national team. My claim to fame was that we once went to watch him play against Tranmere & got an invite to the players lounge - where I drank a half pint of lager that David Fairclough just left down


Yeah I played footy with Lloyd for years as a kid and went to the same school as him. I play footy with his younger brother Sean, too. Still see Emy every now and again around Lark Lane. Lovely fella. You would know better than me then how he has got the scoop here.

Haha yeah I remember getting a chuckle out of searching for Iffy Onoura on football manager and seeing he was Scottish!?

I wouldn't broadcast that minesweeping anecdote, though.
 
He still lives around Lark Lane? That's where the two of us used to knock around together 30 years ago
 
Emy Onuora is an old mate of mine. I remember his kids being born, so probably have known your mate longer than you :)

Emy's an Evertonian, but dont hold that against him - he's a decent lad. In fact when we signed John Barnes he had to stop going to derby matches as he constantly got into fights with his fellow blues when the racism started.

Good looking f'cker as well

His brother once played for Hartlepool (or some other lower league team beginning with H) and now manages the Ethiopa national team. My claim to fame was that we once went to watch him play against Tranmere & got an invite to the players lounge - where I drank a half pint of lager that David Fairclough just left down

Hi brother was well iffy.
 
Taylor sounded extremely shifty this morning on the radio. 'I definitely don't remember the conversation' "I have no recollection of it' rather than saying 'it didn't happen'. Sounds like someone who fears a libel case on either side to me.
 
I don't know. He might just fear that he HAS forgotten all about it. In any case, if he said it in confidence then it's rash to have used it.
 
Hmmm, surely you'd remember telling someone that the FA asked you not to play too many black players– unless of course, it is a story you've told to multiple people on multiple occasions? There's apparently someone else coming out who says that Taylor told him the same thing.
 
It's weird. Certainly I'd never print the name of someone who told me something off the record. Besides, there are nearly always other ways to get the information covered. All this does is turn a potential slander into a potential libel as far as I can see.
 
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