Would Kenny take it?
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Unfortunately our club has no choice but to stand behind Rafa. Not that it is unfortunately to stand behind him, but the clubs state admin wise is even poorer than sportswise. Who would be seen competent enough to find a decent replacement with some plan behind it?
I think its a sensible enough question and yes if it came to it and Benitez quit then I think Kenny would take the job temporarily. I think he would do anything at the club that he was asked to do to be honest.
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
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I think its a sensible enough question and yes if it came to it and Benitez quit then I think Kenny would take the job temporarily. I think he would do anything at the club that he was asked to do to be honest.
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
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If, and it's a massive 'if', he ever got a chance to do it, that should be the only circumstances under which it should happen. He's been out the game far too long and his record is hit and miss. But it'd be interesting to say the least, and a dream for many. Reality speaking though, it'd be a big gamble losing Benitez.
I think its a sensible enough question and yes if it came to it and Benitez quit then I think Kenny would take the job temporarily. I think he would do anything at the club that he was asked to do to be honest.
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
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If, and it's a massive 'if', he ever got a chance to do it, that should be the only circumstances under which it should happen. He's been out the game far too long and his record is hit and miss. But it'd be interesting to say the least, and a dream for many. Reality speaking though, it'd be a big gamble losing Benitez.
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Seriously Fox, fuck off.
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you fuck off, I never said I wanted Rafa sacked now, give him to the end of the season I said.
Just asking if Rafa did go do you think Kenny would take it, sensible question
Seriously Fox, fuck off.
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you fuck off, I never said I wanted Rafa sacked now, give him to the end of the season I said.
Just asking if Rafa did go do you think Kenny would take it, sensible question
I don't ever want to see kenny take over again at liverpool because he is held in high regard and if he failed to succeed it would tarnish his memory
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[quote author=themn link=topic=36582.msg967529#msg967529 date=1256114645]
Seriously Fox, fuck off.
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you fuck off, I never said I wanted Rafa sacked now, give him to the end of the season I said.
Just asking if Rafa did go do you think Kenny would take it, sensible question
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You keep telling yourself that.
[quote author=themn link=topic=36582.msg967529#msg967529 date=1256114645]
Seriously Fox, fuck off.
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you fuck off, I never said I wanted Rafa sacked now, give him to the end of the season I said.
Just asking if Rafa did go do you think Kenny would take it, sensible question
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You keep telling yourself that.
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=36582.msg967549#msg967549 date=1256115720]
I think its a sensible enough question and yes if it came to it and Benitez quit then I think Kenny would take the job temporarily. I think he would do anything at the club that he was asked to do to be honest.
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
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Agreed.
I think its a sensible enough question and yes if it came to it and Benitez quit then I think Kenny would take the job temporarily. I think he would do anything at the club that he was asked to do to be honest.
That's the only circumstance it would happen though. We can't be sacking our manager mid season, and I still think Benitez will turn it around to a large degree. Its just whether he can do enough
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Agreed.
That was certainly true at the time, but (a) a manager can get the hunger back - Walter Smith was a busted flush when he joined the Toffees but taking Scotland on revived him big-time - and (b) the fact that it would be temporary would make it a whole different proposition. If it happened, I could see it working the way Joe Mercer's brief but excellent stint as stand-in England boss in the 1970s turned out.
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That was certainly true at the time, but (a) a manager can get the hunger back - Walter Smith was a busted flush when he joined the Toffees but taking Scotland on revived him big-time - and (b) the fact that it would be temporary would make it a whole different proposition. If it happened, I could see it working the way Joe Mercer's brief but excellent stint as stand-in England boss in the 1970s turned out.
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I applaud your optimism mate! 😉
That was certainly true at the time, but (a) a manager can get the hunger back - Walter Smith was a busted flush when he joined the Toffees but taking Scotland on revived him big-time - and (b) the fact that it would be temporary would make it a whole different proposition. If it happened, I could see it working the way Joe Mercer's brief but excellent stint as stand-in England boss in the 1970s turned out.
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I applaud your optimism mate! 😉
I think Kenny would jump at the chance to manage Liverpool again, whether it as a caretaker or fulltime. Although I think it is very unlikely that Kenny would ever be offered the job full time should Rafa leave. He hasn't managed in a long time and the fear is he might be a little past it.
It's not easy to say that because of the warmth I, and every LFC fan, has for the man but you would have to put all that aside and look at his history history in management. I think he'd come up short.
It's not easy to say that because of the warmth I, and every LFC fan, has for the man but you would have to put all that aside and look at his history history in management. I think he'd come up short.
I doubt he'd want any full-time management job now, and I certainly wouldn't give him ours. If we WERE to need a caretaker pending a new permanent appointment, though, I'd have no probs whatever with Kenny doing it.
Joe Mercer didn't do much except tell the players to go out and enjoy the football - it worked a treat! I think half the problem of the England teams down the years has often been that the players don't enjoy the games and have a fear of failure - which comes out in their play.
I don't want to get involved in a bad-tempered argument about Kenny's managerial credentials, but suffice it to say that I don't think he is an instant answer to our current problems.
I don't want to get involved in a bad-tempered argument about Kenny's managerial credentials, but suffice it to say that I don't think he is an instant answer to our current problems.
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Joe Mercer didn't do much except tell the players to go out and enjoy the football - it worked a treat! I think half the problem of the England teams down the years has often been that the players don't enjoy the games and have a fear of failure - which comes out in their play.
I don't want to get involved in a bad-tempered argument about Kenny's managerial credentials, but suffice it to say that I don't think he is an instant answer to our current problems.
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Agree with all of that. If circs were such that Kenny came in, there'd doubtless be a cloud over the club because of what would have gone before, and I think he'd dispel it in the same way Joe Mercer dispelled the gloom of the Revie years. I don't see him as the answer to our problems even then, but I do think he'd give us breathing space to gather ourselves before we got going again.
Joe Mercer didn't do much except tell the players to go out and enjoy the football - it worked a treat! I think half the problem of the England teams down the years has often been that the players don't enjoy the games and have a fear of failure - which comes out in their play.
I don't want to get involved in a bad-tempered argument about Kenny's managerial credentials, but suffice it to say that I don't think he is an instant answer to our current problems.
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Agree with all of that. If circs were such that Kenny came in, there'd doubtless be a cloud over the club because of what would have gone before, and I think he'd dispel it in the same way Joe Mercer dispelled the gloom of the Revie years. I don't see him as the answer to our problems even then, but I do think he'd give us breathing space to gather ourselves before we got going again.
It might have happened under the previous regime (for all their amateurism they could still be flexible enough to react in such a way) but I don't think many of us would trust the current two idiots to handle any change in anything but the most hamfisted and ill-advised manner.
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The apparent approach to Jurgen Klinsmann showed their level of expertise in this area.
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By the way, does anyone know why he was at the game yesterday? That ghastly creep Richard Keys took evident delight in the symbolism of his presence.
The apparent approach to Jurgen Klinsmann showed their level of expertise in this area.
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By the way, does anyone know why he was at the game yesterday? That ghastly creep Richard Keys took evident delight in the symbolism of his presence.
I don't think anyone is saying that we should sack Benitez now and get Kenny in to make things right. That would be a bad move on a number of levels.
However if Benitez decides enough is enough and quits tomorrow then Kenny is as good as a safe pair of hands as we could hope for in the circumstances.
I don't think any reputations would be tarnished in those circumstances. If your manager leaves during a season there are clearly problems and to have high expectations of the caretaker manager is pretty unfair anyway.
I would prefer if none of the above happened, and I doubt it will, but if it did I dread to think who else could emerge as our new manager mid season.
However if Benitez decides enough is enough and quits tomorrow then Kenny is as good as a safe pair of hands as we could hope for in the circumstances.
I don't think any reputations would be tarnished in those circumstances. If your manager leaves during a season there are clearly problems and to have high expectations of the caretaker manager is pretty unfair anyway.
I would prefer if none of the above happened, and I doubt it will, but if it did I dread to think who else could emerge as our new manager mid season.
I think Benitez has got tremendous backing despite the odd boo's in the ground.
However, it would not surprise anyone if he walked because when the team loses game after game and there is no light then it becomes very difficult especially with media and fans these days. It's incredible the amount of stick he's getting when you consider the team he has to put out.
I doubt H&G would pull the trigger on him but they're undprecitable, these are the owners who thought Klinsman would be best for the job sigh.
However, it would not surprise anyone if he walked because when the team loses game after game and there is no light then it becomes very difficult especially with media and fans these days. It's incredible the amount of stick he's getting when you consider the team he has to put out.
I doubt H&G would pull the trigger on him but they're undprecitable, these are the owners who thought Klinsman would be best for the job sigh.
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