Will Grigg is on fire
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You see.. Walker "left" that ball, because Lovren didn't against Spurs.
This is why the offside rule is now a joke.
If a defender leaves a ball, someone else can go on to score. But the defender is often influenced by the offside player behind him.
This just shows how cool our manager is compared to the rest of these fuckers - after the Mane sending - Klopp kinda accepted it - but that guy just did not see any wrong in the way his player went flying in like a nutter. Course he was going to get a red.
As for City - yeah go spend another billion you fucks. You would think their fans would be a little humble, but no..they start on the police !!! fucking nutters.
May the spoils of football be spread all around - I hope it ends like this as it stands :-
City get the league (no choice really)
FA Cup ? - fuck knows maybe Spurs / United / Chelsea now - hopefully none of them but one will no doubt.
CL - (yes us !!!!!)
League Cup - Arsenal
As for City - yeah go spend another billion you fucks. You would think their fans would be a little humble, but no..they start on the police !!! fucking nutters.
May the spoils of football be spread all around - I hope it ends like this as it stands :-
City get the league (no choice really)
FA Cup ? - fuck knows maybe Spurs / United / Chelsea now - hopefully none of them but one will no doubt.
CL - (yes us !!!!!)
League Cup - Arsenal
The player behind Walker didnt go for the ball though did he? Grigg was onside. I thought that goal was fine and correct judgement from the linesman and the ref.
By the rules, it's a perfectly fine goal. I'm not saying it was a poor decision from the ref or linesman. But the rules are an ass, which is my point.
No defender should have to play the ball, or make a decision to leave it based on another player coming from an offside position. Walker had no idea of the intention of the offside player, but made a decision to leave it (and raised his hand) thinking he'd get the offside call.
The fact that Grigg then ran on to score from it, goes to show that all those saying "Lovren should simply have left the ball" were wrong.. because that's what happens when you leave a ball.. someone else can run on and score.
Basically, I don't like the rule.
The offside laws are a mess now. How can a defender react when seemingly every ref interprets it differently. If a defender pushes up to play a forward offside and then a midfielder runs in behind the defence how could it possibly be argued the forward did not directly influence the play when a defender has moved into a position to play him offside. If we get enough of these decisions teams are just going to defend deeper and deeper.
Peps true coloured showing there, bitter individual.
That problem you have described has been going on since 1994. It's nothing new, and people have adapted well to the rule over the years. What happened at Wigan today with them scoring happens a lot in games nearly every week in the PL. There was no controversy today - unlike the Lovren incident against Spurs.
Yup. The goal was the correct interpretation of the rules. I just hate the modern interpretation. Didn't Shankly have a quote which went along the lines of if a player is not influencing the play, he should not be on the pitch.
To be fair, the video looks like fake news to me. He's actually charging at his players at half time, trying to get them down the tunnel and away from the ref just before it cuts away.
City fans showing their class
Anyone got a clip of the goal and/or Aguero hitting the fan?
Savage attack from Aguero there...Put me off my breakfast.
Its shit though, it crops up every now and then like the Lovren incident because the rule is so fucking stupid
Whilst I'm not in the Brendan camp of hatred and bile for Pep I cannot express how fucking vomit inducing it would have been if that bunch of cunts won all 4 trophies this year.
That's one gone.
Hopefully they lose the next one on Sunday and end up with just the league.......I know yeah.....just the league.
That's one gone.
Hopefully they lose the next one on Sunday and end up with just the league.......I know yeah.....just the league.
Which they bought
Like everyone else before them (Leicester aside).
Well, yeah, this is it. This is why it doesn't bother me what they win. They've outspent almost everyone in the world by a country fucking mile. Of course they're going to sweep up. I know there's a correlation between the highest expenditure and league position but they're not just spending slightly more than everyone, they're spending tonnes more. It makes everything irrelevant to a degree.
Couldn't disagree more in this case .... watch Walker, that was horrendous defending, he had his BACK to the field and couldn't possibly have had any idea as to whether there was someone close to him who could run onto it if he allowed the ball to run past him (as there was, and he did), he was totally engrossed in the player he was marking and didn't even look around to check on other potential danger. 100% Walker's error and had SFA to do with the offside rule.
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You just said he was totally engrossed in the player he was marking (a player who was offside), and then said, it had nothing to do with the offside rule?
That doesn't make sense.
It was poor defending, no doubt, because under the current rules (which I disagree with; my point), you NEED to deal with every ball. You can't afford to let it run through (as some suggested Lovren should have done), and as Walker did. Because you run the risk of someone else running through on it.
Hell, under the current rules, if Walker swiped and skimmed it, the offside player would now be onside and he too could run on and score.. which for me, is ridiculous.
Yesterday wasn't about the rules. And what I said makes perfect sense .... Walker shouldn't have been concentrating on playing a single player offside then there are 9 others he should also be concerned with. So what if that player was offside ? Common sense says that unless you know 100% for sure he is the furthest most forward player (which defenders facing up the pitch, and not looking into the stands, would know) then you can't assume he is the only player you need to play offside.
But to come back to your point - which I think I just covered above. Other than that the old offside rule was a horrible rule that used to spoil many games - players that would have not influenced play in the slightest were given offside destroying many otherwise bona fide attacks. This rule may not be perfect but it's light years ahead of what came before.
It was a bit silly of him to allow the ball to run under his foot, looked like he pulled it away on purpose
Was funny though
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