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[SummerOnions]

I mean it's pretty fucking obvious, isn't it?

Not a single winger in any of the games we've lost in. Not like it's just because Mane went away, but because we don't fucking have any. I'm trying to rationalise it, but it makes no fucking sense at all.

Milner is always cutting inside from the left, and Moreno has the positional awareness and spatial perception of Sean Spicer, whilst Clyne is no winger by any stretch.

So we don't have full backs in the same way that Spurs do, which is why their system works, and we don't have any wingers.

I literally don't understand what the refusal is to play Wilson, Ojo or whoever. Without wingers to stretch the pitch we look incredibly predictable and narrow.

I don't even have a point to make really, and i'm aware that this is more of a statement than a discussion starter, but it makes no fucking sense and it's so fucking frustrating to watch that plodding kind of performance. Are we gonna fix it before Mane gets back?

 

[moron]

I have to agree with you on Ojo not been given a chance plus general issue about lack of wingers. But truth is we are gonna fix it ,,,,when Mane gets back.

 

[binomial]

I mean it's pretty fucking obvious, isn't it?

Not a single winger in any of the games we've lost in. Not like it's just because Mane went away, but because we don't fucking have any. I'm trying to rationalise it, but it makes no fucking sense at all.

Milner is always cutting inside from the left, and Moreno has the positional awareness and spatial perception of Sean Spicer, whilst Clyne is no winger by any stretch.

So we don't have full backs in the same way that Spurs do, which is why their system works, and we don't have any wingers.

I literally don't understand what the refusal is to play Wilson, Ojo or whoever. Without wingers to stretch the pitch we look incredibly predictable and narrow.

I don't even have a point to make really, and i'm aware that this is more of a statement than a discussion starter, but it makes no fucking sense and it's so fucking frustrating to watch that plodding kind of performance. Are we gonna fix it before Mane gets back?

It's a bit late, no?

 

[hmmmmm1]

Replace width with pace and you know where are problems lie up front.

Without mane, the whole team looks one paced, except to klopp.



However the bigger issue is Defensively we all over the place. Cut open by wolves but don't worry we can score 4 goals every game.. it always going to catch up with us in the end

 

[6TimesaRed]

The problem is we are too Static we turn up to these games thinking we can pass our way to victory, when really with passing should come movement..

 

[Squiggles]

You don't pass and move through brick walls. It's not down to lack of movement. It's clichéd nonsense. Theres no space to move into. You can beat it by going wide and getting balls into the box. It's something we are shit at and its a main reason why we're struggling. Klopp has no plan B.

 

[manwithnoname]

Replace width with pace and you know where are problems lie up front.

Without mane, the whole team looks one paced, except to klopp.



However the bigger issue is Defensively we all over the place. Cut open by wolves but don't worry we can score 4 goals every game.. it always going to catch up with us in the end

Always going to be a problem if you have a shit goalkeeper, and a terrible defence, because it was always quite clear to anyone who wasn't a fucking moron that we wouldn't keep scoring at that rate, and would inevitably need to rely on a clean sheet now and again

The defence hasn't got worse, it's still as shite as it ever was, but we have stopped scoring goals

It's obvious we have major problems with finishing quality, pace, width and whatever else in attack. That was always an issue

It's obvious we have a midfield that often plays sideways, safe passes and don't scare the opposition with clever runs or attacking threat

It's obvious that we don't have a good enough keeper and a mediocre defence, and need a top quality DM.

While all of this is obvious, I would address the latter first, because we will win fuck all with a defence as shite as the one Klopp has got

 

[hmmmmm1]

We won't though because The Defensive is as bad now as it was when first came and shows no sign of improving. Klopp Has had 3 Transfer windows and signed matip (good player) and klavlen (never good enough) and kept Moreno (was never good enough)

 

[darkstarexodus]

I don't know about width but a lot of these players are pretty fucking thick.

 

[binomial]

Watching Lucas chasing around Bodvarsson for the last 5 minutes was hysterical....genuinely the funniest thing I've seen in football.

 

[Frogfish]

You don't pass and move through brick walls. It's not down to lack of movement. It's clichéd nonsense. Theres no space to move into. You can beat it by going wide and getting balls into the box. It's something we are shit at and its a main reason why we're struggling. Klopp has no plan B.

Absolutely spot on. Even with skilful players (Lallana, Coutinho, Sturridge, Firmino) we've been struggling to go straight through the middle simply because having 3-4 players up against a tight-knit 7-8 is never going to work without width stretching the opposition defence. Once it's stretched we can use pace and superior techincal ability to beat it.