Why were the wolves fans booing Reina?
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Because he ran the length of the pitch to remind the linesman who needed sending off.
He is. I don't know what the Wolves fans were whinging about really though. If the situation were reversed their players would be doing everything they could to inform the officials of their mistake. It was hardly controversial.
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=38139.msg1021646#msg1021646 date=1261873402]
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
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haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
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haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38139.msg1021648#msg1021648 date=1261874193]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=38139.msg1021646#msg1021646 date=1261873402]
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
[/quote]
haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
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Thata fact from drinkin woth 4 of them tonght.
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=38139.msg1021646#msg1021646 date=1261873402]
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
[/quote]
haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
[/quote]
Thata fact from drinkin woth 4 of them tonght.
Three of our 4 best players.
I love Pepe. Absolutely love him and his bald head. He's such a competitor, a great teammate, and clearly loves the club.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38139.msg1021648#msg1021648 date=1261874193]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=38139.msg1021646#msg1021646 date=1261873402]
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
[/quote]
haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
[/quote]
Thata fact from drinkin woth 4 of them tonght.
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Fuck 'em, fucking shit bags !
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38139.msg1021648#msg1021648 date=1261874193]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=38139.msg1021646#msg1021646 date=1261873402]
All my blue nose mates now think Pepe is a cunt for doin that.
Evertonians most hated (recent poll)
1. Masher
2. Reina
3. Gerrard
[/quote]
haha, yeah, that's about right TBH.
They are so, so bitter it's hard to believe.
[/quote]
Thata fact from drinkin woth 4 of them tonght.
[/quote]
Fuck 'em, fucking shit bags !
Abso-fupping-lutely.
Overall, based on conversations with supporters of clubs at or near the top of the league (unlike the blueslime), I'd say Mascher's the Liverpool player who seems more hated than any other. That's just one of a number of reasons why I'd love to keep him here, though I don't know how likely that is.
Overall, based on conversations with supporters of clubs at or near the top of the league (unlike the blueslime), I'd say Mascher's the Liverpool player who seems more hated than any other. That's just one of a number of reasons why I'd love to keep him here, though I don't know how likely that is.
Pepe is a legend. He ran the length of the pitch because he is a winner and he cares so much. And BTW, the Wolves fans have only Ward to blame for acting foolishly.
I can see why rival fans hate Mascherano. He can be brutal at times. I love him for his dedication and never say die attitude. He does act foolishly at times which annoys me.
I can see why rival fans hate Mascherano. He can be brutal at times. I love him for his dedication and never say die attitude. He does act foolishly at times which annoys me.
Pepe Reina intervenes to help tip balance Liverpool’s way
Tony Barret
Rarely has the cliché about good goalkeepers being worth at least a handful of points to their team been more apposite. It wasn’t the saves of Pepe Reina that helped Liverpool take a maximum haul from a scrappy encounter with Wolverhampton Wanderers, however, it was his hitherto unseen ability to engender match-defining decisions that proved conclusive.
Players contesting the judgments of match officials is a given of modern football, but rarely do they race 70 yards to do so. That Reina did so when Andre Marriner, the referee, had failed to award a second yellow card, and subsequently a red one, to Stephen Ward highlighted two things — Reina’s desire and Liverpool’s desperation.
It was an undoubted turning point. The initial decision made by Marriner was to book Christophe Berra for a tug on Lucas Leiva, but he had got the wrong man. Reina’s intervention prompted the referee to take the advice of Phil Dowd, the fourth official, and belated punishment was meted out to Ward, reducing the visiting team’s numbers and giving Liverpool an opportunity to go for the kill that they, even in their present angst, were not going to pass up.
“Liverpool needed a break and they got one,†was the sanguine reaction of Mick McCarthy to the furore. Privately, though, the sarcastic applause that the Wolves manager directed at Rafael BenÃtez suggested that he was far from happy with the involvement of his Liverpool counterpart and his players in prompting Marriner’s change of mind.
The travelling fans made their feelings much clearer, booing Reina’s every touch from that point.
The morals of such an instance are far from clear-cut because of the football world’s implicit code of conduct that demands that no one should ever seek an advantage by acting in a way that would lead to an opponent being sent off. But surely that Reina and his team-mates stopped injustice from prevailing takes precedence?
Had Marriner not been forced into a U-turn, Liverpool would have been unfairly denied the numerical advantage due when an opponent transgresses not once, but twice. Reina simply helped justice to prevail and probably saved Marriner from demotion for his faux pas.
Beyond the moral maze, though, are the facts and the most salient ones are that before the sending-off Liverpool had toiled once more, while Wolves had at least one chance that should have been taken, when an unmarked Kevin Doyle headed over from four yards. But after Ward’s dismissal the home side took full advantage, scoring two unanswered goals.
The significance of the identity of the man whose goal put Liverpool on the path to a desperately needed victory should not be understated. It had not gone unnoticed that in recent weeks Steven Gerrard had not fired on all cylinders. Rather than providing compelling proof that the powers of the Liverpool captain were on the wane, as some have suggested, it simply demonstrated that even members of the much-vaunted Fifpro World XI are subjected to the same vagaries of form and fitness that affect players at every level. Gerrard’s header from Emiliano Insúa’s cross was the latest in a seemingly endless line of examples of both the 29-year-old’s desire and his unerring ability to pull his team out of the mire.
Yossi Benayoun added a second, with the aid of a hefty deflection by Karl Henry, to give Liverpool a level of comfort that allowed BenÃtez to introduce Dani Pacheco, a reserve-team player of rich promise, as a late substitute. The Spanish 18-year-old duly delivered a lively cameo.
Where Liverpool go from here is anyone’s guess. Three months have passed since they won consecutive league games and their opportunity to put that unwanted record to bed is far from a golden one, with a visit to Aston Villa tomorrow.
Reina’s involvement in that game could go a long way towards determining whether or not they take maximum points once again, only this time his contribution is likely to be of a more conventional kind.
Tony Barret
Rarely has the cliché about good goalkeepers being worth at least a handful of points to their team been more apposite. It wasn’t the saves of Pepe Reina that helped Liverpool take a maximum haul from a scrappy encounter with Wolverhampton Wanderers, however, it was his hitherto unseen ability to engender match-defining decisions that proved conclusive.
Players contesting the judgments of match officials is a given of modern football, but rarely do they race 70 yards to do so. That Reina did so when Andre Marriner, the referee, had failed to award a second yellow card, and subsequently a red one, to Stephen Ward highlighted two things — Reina’s desire and Liverpool’s desperation.
It was an undoubted turning point. The initial decision made by Marriner was to book Christophe Berra for a tug on Lucas Leiva, but he had got the wrong man. Reina’s intervention prompted the referee to take the advice of Phil Dowd, the fourth official, and belated punishment was meted out to Ward, reducing the visiting team’s numbers and giving Liverpool an opportunity to go for the kill that they, even in their present angst, were not going to pass up.
“Liverpool needed a break and they got one,†was the sanguine reaction of Mick McCarthy to the furore. Privately, though, the sarcastic applause that the Wolves manager directed at Rafael BenÃtez suggested that he was far from happy with the involvement of his Liverpool counterpart and his players in prompting Marriner’s change of mind.
The travelling fans made their feelings much clearer, booing Reina’s every touch from that point.
The morals of such an instance are far from clear-cut because of the football world’s implicit code of conduct that demands that no one should ever seek an advantage by acting in a way that would lead to an opponent being sent off. But surely that Reina and his team-mates stopped injustice from prevailing takes precedence?
Had Marriner not been forced into a U-turn, Liverpool would have been unfairly denied the numerical advantage due when an opponent transgresses not once, but twice. Reina simply helped justice to prevail and probably saved Marriner from demotion for his faux pas.
Beyond the moral maze, though, are the facts and the most salient ones are that before the sending-off Liverpool had toiled once more, while Wolves had at least one chance that should have been taken, when an unmarked Kevin Doyle headed over from four yards. But after Ward’s dismissal the home side took full advantage, scoring two unanswered goals.
The significance of the identity of the man whose goal put Liverpool on the path to a desperately needed victory should not be understated. It had not gone unnoticed that in recent weeks Steven Gerrard had not fired on all cylinders. Rather than providing compelling proof that the powers of the Liverpool captain were on the wane, as some have suggested, it simply demonstrated that even members of the much-vaunted Fifpro World XI are subjected to the same vagaries of form and fitness that affect players at every level. Gerrard’s header from Emiliano Insúa’s cross was the latest in a seemingly endless line of examples of both the 29-year-old’s desire and his unerring ability to pull his team out of the mire.
Yossi Benayoun added a second, with the aid of a hefty deflection by Karl Henry, to give Liverpool a level of comfort that allowed BenÃtez to introduce Dani Pacheco, a reserve-team player of rich promise, as a late substitute. The Spanish 18-year-old duly delivered a lively cameo.
Where Liverpool go from here is anyone’s guess. Three months have passed since they won consecutive league games and their opportunity to put that unwanted record to bed is far from a golden one, with a visit to Aston Villa tomorrow.
Reina’s involvement in that game could go a long way towards determining whether or not they take maximum points once again, only this time his contribution is likely to be of a more conventional kind.
To be fair to him, he's admitted in another interview that he'd have done exactly the same as Rafa had the situation been reversed. I think he's going to keep them up (just about) and that's an achievement considering the dross in that squad.
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