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That is what they usually say when they take over. 100m is a huge debt for a small club like West Ham. Gold & Sullivan are not exactly gentlemen are they? Everything will be from the back of the lorry now at West Ham. So I predict a fire sale if not now, will be soon at the end of the season if they don't survive the PL.
 
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That is what they usually say when they take over. 100m is a huge debt for a small club like West Ham. Gold & Sullivan are not exactly gentlemen are they? Everything will be from the back of the lorry now at West Ham. So I predict a fire sale if not now, will be soon at the end of the season if they don't survive the PL.
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No.
 
How many of these proclamations of a 'fire sale' actually pan out?

Who did we buy from the Valencia fire sale again?
 
Juventus had one a few years back, but even then they were still getting 15M odd for some of their defenders.

It's always balls.
 
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That is what they usually say when they take over. 100m is a huge debt for a small club like West Ham. Gold & Sullivan are not exactly gentlemen are they? Everything will be from the back of the lorry now at West Ham. So I predict a fire sale if not now, will be soon at the end of the season if they don't survive the PL.
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Just because Gold and Sullivan made their fortune selling dildos doesn't mean they aren't gentleman Y1
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=38531.msg1038446#msg1038446 date=1263958746]
That is what they usually say when they take over. 100m is a huge debt for a small club like West Ham. Gold & Sullivan are not exactly gentlemen are they? Everything will be from the back of the lorry now at West Ham. So I predict a fire sale if not now, will be soon at the end of the season if they don't survive the PL.
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Just because Gold and Sullivan made their fortune selling dildos doesn't mean they aren't gentleman Y1
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Gentle? Man.
 
[quote author=Mike Hunt link=topic=38531.msg1038532#msg1038532 date=1263981041]
"Everything will be from the back of the lorry now at West Ham."

What does that mean? Cheap?
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The phrase "off the back of a lorry" implies stolen goods*.

Which are by definition, cheaper than those bought in shops.

*or possibly imported illegally. But usually it means nicked.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38531.msg1038510#msg1038510 date=1263978973]
I'd prefer Carlton Cole to Kenwyne Jones.

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The "Two Davids" are West Ham fans and want the best for the club.

I hardly think they're going to run it into the ground.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=38531.msg1038543#msg1038543 date=1263981408]
The "Two Davids" are West Ham fans and want the best for the club.

I hardly think they're going to run it into the ground.
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Which is the point of them buying it. Gold was born a few hundred yards away , it's in their blood.
They are sharp enough and did a good job at Brum.
I like West Ham, I like Zola, I hope they do well, as for Gold and Sullivan, well, they are what they are.

regards
 
The Icelanders did run the club into the ground, they owe £40 million in transfer fees to other clubs and at the same time aren't owed a single penny in transfer themselves. Curbishley fucked up seriously in giving big contracts to the likes of Ljunberg, Dyer, Neill etc
 
[quote author=Mike Hunt link=topic=38531.msg1038545#msg1038545 date=1263981423]
Ah I see.. Thanks.

Examples of a Firesale --> Leeds, Portsmouth.

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I don't know about Firesale but Niko Kranjaer for 2.5million was a bargain.
 
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The Icelanders did run the club into the ground, they owe £40 million in transfer fees to other clubs and at the same time aren't owed a single penny in transfer themselves. Curbishley fucked up seriously in giving big contracts to the likes of Ljunberg, Dyer, Neill etc
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It was horribly obvious to everyone that they were on course for ruin by buying past-it, injury prone and/or average players on stratospheric wages. It was almost as if Curbs and the Eggman *wanted* to ruin the club.
 
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[quote author=Mike Hunt link=topic=38531.msg1038545#msg1038545 date=1263981423]
Ah I see.. Thanks.

Examples of a Firesale --> Leeds, Portsmouth.

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I don't know about Firesale but Niko Kranjaer for 2.5million was a bargain.
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I was amazed he left so cheaply in the summer. In was towards the end of the window and we should have been all over it.

We spent close to that on the Greek!
 
None of their top players will be sold according to yesterdays press conference. If the takeover hadn't been completed, then they'd of needed to raise £8m in this window and then another £12m in the summer (through player sales). The previous owners (Eggman) had allready borrowed against next seasons season tickets and their shirt sponsorship deal.

They want the Olympic stadium as well.
 
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=38531.msg1038645#msg1038645 date=1263992491]
Valon Behrami is a decent player.

Would take Noble and get rid of Lucas.
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Behrami is good enough for West Ham, but not Liverpool.

And while Noble would likely be an improvement on Lucas, it would merely be a continuation of Rafa's (unsuccessful) 'incremental' improvement strategy. I'd rather we signed someone of genuine class who the opposition would fear.
 
Saw the chap Nouble against Villa. Looks strong but apart from that, can't shoot if his life depended on it. Looks like our kind of player!
 
Noble's playing in a poor team and has practically had to carry them single-handed in some games. When I've seen him he's been quite a bit more dangerous than Lucas going forward and at least as good at the defensive grafting. IMO he'd blossom in a better side, so I'd certainly be interested if he became available.
 
Behrami is good enough for West Ham, but not Liverpool.

And while Noble would likely be an improvement on Lucas, it would merely be a continuation of Rafa's (unsuccessful) 'incremental' improvement strategy. I'd rather we signed someone of genuine class who the opposition would fear.

Disagree. Behrami is easily good enough for us.. I like him.
 
Firesale goes menckle, as West Ham try to buy two new Strikers.

West Ham chasing two new strikers, says new chairman David Sullivan

• Sullivan speaking after meeting manager Gianfranco Zola
• Benni McCarthy 'would be good', says co-owner David Gold

Press Association guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 20 January 2010 15.52 GMT

West Ham United's chairman David Sullivan has pledged to help secure two new strikers to bolster Gianfranco Zola's squad before the transfer window closes.

Sullivan and business partner David Gold, who acquired 50% of the club in a deal which gives them operational and commercial control, met Zola and assistant manager Steve Clarke yesterday to discuss the future. Sullivan will look to free up a sum believed to be around £8m, and has said no players need to be sold.

"I was hugely impressed with Gianfranco and Steve," Sullivan told the London Evening Standard.

"It is so great to meet a man who wants to work with us and make the team better. He has a 'can-do' attitude, but with a pragmatic approach. He's a really nice guy. I believe he can be a great manager. We agreed we need at least one striker by the Portsmouth match and the second by the end of the window."

Blackburn's Benni McCarthy, 32, almost joined West Ham from Porto five years ago, and has been linked with a switch to east London. Co-owner David Gold said: "He would be a good acquisition, if that could be achieved. It's possible, but all strikers that are available as we speak are possible."

There had been speculation that the likes of centre-back Matthew Upson, goalkeeper Robert Green, striker Carlton Cole and midfielder Scott Parker would have to be sold off to help balance the books. But Sullivan said the pressure to sell was gone.

"Matthew is the captain and his return to the team in recent weeks has coincided with improved performances," said Sullivan. "And we all agreed that Scott, despite a lot of interest, is going nowhere. He is a wonderful player, the heartbeat of the team. Despite the difficult times, he has always been up for the challenge, always fighting for the badge."

Sullivan intends to deal with transfers himself, leaving the future of technical director Gianluca Nani unclear. The arrival of Karren Brady as vice-chairman completes the Birmingham City connection at Upton Park, but her salary will be met by Sullivan and Gold rather than the club.

The duo will themselves not take a wage as the new regime look to cut costs and reduce the enormous debt levels, which are owed to both banks and other clubs, including settlements to Sheffield United over the Carlos Tevez affair and former manager Alan Curbishley.

"We are fully behind the manager, but I do not want to go into all staff," Sullivan said. "There may be some changes at some level, we are going to look at all sorts of things. We do not rush into decisions. There has to be some savings here. This is a club haemorrhaging money. There may have to be economies, and there is no point saying otherwise. To put things in perspective, I will be earning nothing, David will be earning nothing.

"We are personally paying Karren's wages for the next 12 months so she is not a burden to the club at all. We are not coming here with baggage which will cost the club money, we are all going to make a contribution at zero cost to the club."

Sullivan openly admits buying West Ham made no business sense, but believes the future can be bright.

"We are inheriting liabilities and are going to have to work through them. Every stone you turn is a negative to the cash-flow of the club. We are taking over an incredibly bad situation. However, we will sort it out because we are good at it."
 
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