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January

Saints boss Mauricio Pellegrino says he 'doesn't know' if defender will still be on South Coast after transfer window

BY IAN DOYLE

22:56, 16 NOV 2017UPDATED22:57, 16 NOV 2017

Liverpool have seemingly been given the green light to renew their interest in Southampton defender Virgil van Dijk.

The Reds were forced to make a public apology and end their pursuit of van Dijk in June amid suggestions of an illegal approach for the player.

While the Dutchman remains Jurgen Klopp's number one centre-back target, Liverpool will only make a bid should they be invited to by Southampton.

And Saints boss Mauricio Pellegrino – a former Liverpool defender – has now hinted the defender could be allowed to depart in the New Year.

Asked if van Dijk would still be a Southampton player beyond the next transfer window, Pellegrino said on Thursday: “I don’t know. I can’t control the market.

“You never know, because when we talk about money everybody has got a price.

“The budget is to sign players and the biggest teams have got money to try to sign players.

“I can’t decide about that. This is a question for our owners.

“Everybody is focused on their area, to try to bring the best players possible for their club. It is something that happens every single transfer window.

“We have got a lot of good players and most of the teams want to sign them.”

Van Dijk is set to be in opposition to Liverpool on Saturday when Southampton visit Anfield for a Premier League encounter.

 

[keniget]

Having to beg Southampton for Van Dijk again is hard to take when it's now looking that Sanchez may be the real deal at Spurs.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Fuck him but sadly we are in a bind

 

[Insignificance]

Maybe we should base the interest in CD's on who currently plays for Liverpool and not who play for Spurs?

 

[HC]

Maybe we should base the interest in CD's on who currently plays for Liverpool and not who play for Spurs?

Eh?

 

[Insignificance]

Eh?

Keniget cast doubt over the need for getting Van Dijk as Sanchez seem to play well at Spurs.

 

[LarryHagman]

Having to beg Southampton for Van Dijk again is hard to take when it's now looking that Sanchez may be the real deal at Spurs.

What? You mean there are other good (better) centre backs in the world who would cost a lot less. Surely not?

 

[rurikbird]

Having to beg Southampton for Van Dijk again is hard to take when it's now looking that Sanchez may be the real deal at Spurs.

He plays in the back 3 though, no? That's a different kettle of fish to the centre-back pair; half of the defenders who excel at the former couldn't handle the latter.

 

[Jerry Laser]

We should move on from this sorry fuckin mess, cos if we buy him and it goes tits up we yet again look fucking amateur by buying half of the Saints team.

I mean surely there are some decent options across Europe for less money than Roberto Baggios hair on top of Carlton Palmer?

 

[ibromurph]

Gosh, I hope we get him.

Lovren and Matip's performance against Spurs still haunts me and there are more around the corner like that.

Besides, I like my CBs to have some ability on the ball.

 

[Halmeister]

That has to be one of THE worst thread titles ever.

 

[Rosco]

We should move on from this sorry fuckin mess, cos if we buy him and it goes tits up we yet again look fucking amateur by buying half of the Saints team.

I mean surely there are some decent options across Europe for less money than Roberto Baggios hair on top of Carlton Palmer?

I agree, but there might be a feeling that we have to follow through on the deal.

If we don't we might find future tap up targets more reluctant

 

[LarryHagman]

You never know, one of the other myriad of clubs in for him driving his price up to 70M might gazump us.

 

[manwithnoname]

Keniget cast doubt over the need for getting Van Dijk as Sanchez seem to play well at Spurs.

Moron

 

[Mystic]

That has to be one of THE worst thread titles ever.

Honestly have no idea what it's even attempting to achieve.

 

[Insignificance]

Moron

Wow Beavis. Nice. Your whole vocabulary in one post. Impressive !

 

[ibromurph]

I wonder if Southampton fans are still delighted they "sent out a statement" to those big mean Liverpool bullies, by keeping VVD in the summer.

It's funny how they seem to have a grudge against us, and yet we've given them VERY GOOD money on the likes of Clyne, Lovren, Lallana, Mane. Money, that's probably kept them in the league (as they've reinvested and sold players on again).

The one year they make their "statement" and stray from their business plan of selling and reinvesting, might be the year they actually get relegated. In the summer, if they wanted to make a statement, they should have held our feet to the fire on VVD and got 60m + (Sturridge/Origi/Ings; they are severely lacking a quality CF). They might even have been able to get Joe Gomez on loan/in the deal.

Now, they really don't have much leverage. Especially, if VVD declares he only wants to come to us.

Personally, I think their only hope of surviving might be to sell VVD in Jan for big money and reinvest into some good forward options. Although even then, it could be too late (how many good forwards players are available in Jan).

We really should look to take advantage. VVD's price has surely taken a massive hit these past 3 months. Let's start our negotiations at 35m and potentially go up to 45m max. The longer they hold out in Jan, the less time they get to secure their targets.

 

[Dreambeliever]

I wonder if Southampton fans are still delighted they "sent out a statement" to those big mean Liverpool bullies, by keeping VVD in the summer.

It's funny how they seem to have a grudge against us, and yet we've given them VERY GOOD money on the likes of Clyne, Lovren, Lallana, Mane. Money, that's probably kept them in the league (as they've reinvested and sold players on again).

The one year they make their "statement" and stray from their business plan of selling and reinvesting, might be the year they actually get relegated. In the summer, if they wanted to make a statement, they should have held our feet to the fire on VVD and got 60m + (Sturridge/Origi/Ings; they are severely lacking a quality CF). They might even have been able to get Joe Gomez on loan/in the deal.

Now, they really don't have much leverage. Especially, if VVD declares he only wants to come to us.

Personally, I think their only hope of surviving might be to sell VVD in Jan for big money and reinvest into some good forward options. Although even then, it could be too late (how many good forwards players are available in Jan).

We really should look to take advantage. VVD's price has surely taken a massive hit these past 3 months. Let's start our negotiations at 35m and potentially go up to 45m max. The longer they hold out in Jan, the less time they get to secure their targets.

When Barca give us 120m for Coutinho will you hold a grudge?

 

[ibromurph]

When Barca give us 120m for Coutinho will you hold a grudge?

No. Not at all. That's an insane amount of money for a player who I don't think is one of the 3 best players in the league, let alone the world, in his either of his preferred positions; the AM role (Pogba, Silva, Eriksen, KDB) or the 3 best in the LW role (Mane, Sanchez, Sane).

120m could buy us a world CB, a world class GK and a world class DM, and we'd be a much better team.

I think the only reason why we didn't sell him is because we couldn't get Keita this summer and Lallana got injured. I expect him to be gone after the World Cup.

 

[Dreambeliever]

No. Not at all. That's an insane amount of money for a player who I don't think is one of the 3 best players in the league, let alone the world, in his either of his preferred positions; the AM role (Pogba, Silva, Eriksen, KDB) or the 3 best in the LW role (Mane, Sanchez, Sane).

120m could buy us a world CB, a world class GK and a world class DM, and we'd be a much better team.

I think the only reason why we didn't sell him is because we couldn't get Keita this summer and Lallana got injured. I expect him to be gone after the World Cup.

So the fact they took Masher, Suarez and Coutinho away wouldn't leave you feeling a little bit bitter towards them?

I think you'd be in the minority there

 

[Insignificance]

No. Not at all. That's an insane amount of money for a player who I don't think is one of the 3 best players in the league, let alone the world, in his either of his preferred positions; the AM role (Pogba, Silva, Eriksen, KDB) or the 3 best in the LW role (Mane, Sanchez, Sane).

120m could buy us a world CB, a world class GK and a world class DM, and we'd be a much better team.

I think the only reason why we didn't sell him is because we couldn't get Keita this summer and Lallana got injured. I expect him to be gone after the World Cup.

Pogba done nothing to suggest he is better than Phil Coutinho.

 

[Glen C]

So the fact they took Masher, Suarez and Coutinho away wouldn't leave you feeling a little bit bitter towards them?

I think you'd be in the minority there

Out of those 3 only the Suarez deal pissed me off. I love cou and think he's our best player, but hes not irreplaceable. If Barca offer 120m for him we would be stupid not to take it. Didn't want it done this summer as we didn't have enough time to get a replacement(s).

 

[ibromurph]

So the fact they took Masher, Suarez and Coutinho away wouldn't leave you feeling a little bit bitter towards them?

I think you'd be in the minority there

Yeah probably, but that's the price you pay when you sign South American players. Those players want to go there. So let them go, on our terms.

I was more disappointed in our poor recruitments following their departures.

With Suarez, we should have tied up a cash + player deal for Sanchez, before the World Cup 2014, and before Arsenal came in.

 

[ibromurph]

Pogba done nothing to suggest he is better than Phil Coutinho.

Eh? I guess it's a matter of opinion but if I am speaking objectively, to say Pogba has done nothing is to suggest his career only started since he's rejoined United.

First and foremost, he's helped Juve to a CL final; whilst he's performed in the CL for a longer period than Phil. He was terrific for France in the last Euros and he's also won league titles in Italy. In my opinion, when he's on form, he simply dominates games ala Vieira/Gerrard. Whereas Phil doesn't, he produces moments of magic. But only moments.

Pogba also showed up to the Europa League final last year and scored (a game Phil disappeared in the year before). For me, it's no surprise that they've struggled and looked toothless whilst he was out and the moment he returns, they win handsomely again. Whereas we were doing OK at the start of the season without Phil; Mane is a bigger miss for us.

Don't get me wrong, Phil is a ridiculously talented footballer. A magician with the ball at his feet. A joy to watch, etc, etc. But Pogba is terrific player himself and is more effective at helping his team games. In my opinion.

 

[tombrown]

Has DB hacked ibro's account?

 

[ibromurph]

Heh, I know we should hate all United players, for being United players, but Pogba hasn't really done anything in a United shirt so far, to really make me really hate him. Hell, he missed a couple sitters at Old Trafford AND gave us a penalty last year. What a guy.

Same goes for Lukaku. Right now, I'm indifferent, they're harmless, until proven otherwise. (a goal or two against us, with twat-like celebrations, would no doubt change my perception on them though).

But for now, I'll save my hatred for the likes of Herrara, Elbowllani, Ashley Young and of course Maureen. All cheating cnuts.

 

[Halmeister]

Just watch one of Pogba's celebrations, or anything he does on social media, and that should be enough to make you hate the cunt.

 

[manwithnoname]

Just watch one of Pogba's celebrations, or anything he does on social media, and that should be enough to make you hate the cunt.

Yep, a total fucking bellend

Like Balotelli, except not shit

 

[keniget]

Each time I visit the site, my mind draws a complete blank when looking at this thread's title and I have to click on it to figure out what the hell it's about again.

 

[Judge Jules]

Yeah probably, but that's the price you pay when you sign South American players. Those players want to go there. So let them go, on our terms.

I was more disappointed in our poor recruitments following their departures.

With Suarez, we should have tied up a cash + player deal for Sanchez, before the World Cup 2014, and before Arsenal came in.

Wouldn't have made any difference. We offered more than the Arse and he still went there.