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Upton Park Last Night

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No one really seems to have talked about this which surprises me, horrible scene's there last night, one man stabbed and three pitch invasions, I thought this had been erradicated from the game.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/8221590.stm

West Ham fans invade the pitch (footage courtesy of Sky Sports)

The Football Association is to investigate the violence that marred Tuesday's Carling Cup clash between West Ham and Millwall at Upton Park.

One man was stabbed as fans clashed outside the ground and there were three pitch invasions during the game.

"We absolutely condemn all of the disorder that has occurred at Upton Park," said an FA spokesperson.

"We will be working with all parties, the police and clubs, to establish the facts surrounding these events."

West Ham have vowed to ban for life any fan found guilty of being involved in the disturbances.

"Swift action will be taken as soon as possible, with life bans for anyone responsible for the disturbance," a statement from the club read.

Hammers chief executive Scott Duxbury added: "We will leave no stone unturned in rooting out the perpetrators."

FA director of communications Adrian Bevington said it was too early to decide whether the clubs themselves would face sanctions, amid concerns of inadequate stewarding at the game.

"We have to understand exactly what measures were put in place last night," he told BBC Radio 5 live.

"I am not going to condemn West Ham or Millwall football clubs for any of their actions - certainly not at this stage.
Police at West Ham v Millwall
Police worked to contain violence before, during and after the match

"We know there have been huge efforts on the parts of all our clubs to try to eradicate the problems and we've had a history of success on that.

"However, we have to make sure that the individuals concerned face such tough actions that they can't go to football again."

Map - where the violence occurred

Police revealed that the victim of the stabbing was a 44-year-old man, who was attacked in Priory Road near the stadium before the game. He is in a stable condition in hospital.

This was the first time London rivals West Ham and Millwall had played each other since April 2005 and hundreds of fans were involved in the disorder.

606: DEBATE
Unfortunately it begs the question, should games like these be played behind closed doors?

Koos the Hammer

Eyewitness reports suggested opposing fans threw bottles and bricks at each other and starting small fires as police moved in to try and quell the disturbances.

Inside the stadium, police and stewards battled to remove fans from the pitch throughout the match, which West Ham won 3-1 in extra time.

The first pitch invasion was after Junior Stanislas' equaliser, while the second more serious encroachment occurred after the same player slotted a penalty to give the Hammers the lead.

Play was briefly suspended when referee Paul Taylor decided to take the players off the pitch.

It took officials about six minutes to clear about 50 people from the pitch and police had to redeploy within the stadium to tackle the invasion.

After the match, riot police lined the streets outside the ground, roads were closed and a helicopter flew overhead in preparation for further possible clashes as thousands of fans tried to leave the stadium at full time.

Hammers boss Gianfranco Zola condemned those responsible for the trouble after the match and said they were not fans of football.

"I've played seven years in England and I've never seen it like this," he said.

"It's certainly not good for football, I was completely shocked. Totally. I knew it was a game that meant a lot for the two sets of supporters but I didn't imagine it like this.

"What can I say? I'm a sport man. I love the game. I love to go on the pitch and try to make it exciting for the supporters and enjoyable for everybody to watch. This was beyond my powers."

Millwall boss Kenny Jackett said: "I didn't fear for my own safety. There were no Millwall fans on the pitch, they stayed where they were supposed to."


Sports Minister Gerry Sutcliffe gave his full support to the FA's investigation, adding: "We have made great progress in the past 20 years in tackling football hooliganism in this country and will not tolerate any return to the dark days of the 70s and 80s when it plagued the game."

The Football League, which organises the Carling Cup, condemned the scenes and promised to help identify and punish those involved.

Malcolm Clarke, chairman of the Football Supporters Federation, told the BBC he expected to discuss the violence at a routine meeting with FA chief executive Ian Watmore on Wednesday.

"It's important to get to the bottom of it but too many hysterical over-reactions don't help," he said.

"I can assure you the vast majority of Millwall and West Ham supporters will be as horrified by events that occurred as everybody else."
 
Threads not on the main page and it's hardly talking just about this, I thought it deserved it's own thread.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35483.msg932933#msg932933 date=1251294296]
ahh the good old days

regards
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Yeah you facking cant!
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=35483.msg932892#msg932892 date=1251291307]
No one really seems to have talked about this which surprises me, horrible scene's there last night, one man stabbed and three pitch invasions, I thought this had been erradicated from the game.

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Did you really?

I went to see Aldershot away at millwall last season in the FA cup and on the same day Palace were at home to Southampton. There were fights all over the place at London Bridge before and after the game. Then when all four sets of fans met it was carnage.
 
I believe Cardiff and Swansea are the worst of the worst when it comes to violence, yet all these are quietly hushed up.

I bet if it involved say another team that sort of finished 2nd last season it would be splashed across front pages and all over the news.


......................................... but then again I'm paranoid
 
Both clubs do have proper fans so I do feel sorry for them getting tarred with the same brush as these braindead imbeciles.

However, I actually do think that all these crap football violence films (and Danny Dyer's existence generally) don't help matters.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=35483.msg933334#msg933334 date=1251363218]
Really? Why?? There's hardly a gap in the market!

Is Danny Dyer in this new one?
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Green Street THREE! With...Vinnie Jones. :🙂 'Orrible sub-genre.
 
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=35483.msg933334#msg933334 date=1251363218]
Really? Why?? There's hardly a gap in the market!

Is Danny Dyer in this new one?
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Green Street THREE! With...Vinnie Jones. :🙂 'Orrible sub-genre.
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All the trouble the other night was in fact just all the extras
 
West Ham versus Millwall hardly has 'fun for all the family' written all over it. Surely, the authorities expected a few choice words to be exchanged, at the very least?
 
The trouble that goes in Italy, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina etc. is far far worse and there never really seem to be any serious rammifications from FIFA / UEFA.

England is one of the best equipped nations to host a World Cup in my opinion with lots of big modern stadiums in close proximity of one another and a massive love for the game.
 
Our World Cup bid will have nothing to do with the other night. It will all be about who's palm we grease and for how much.

Always is that way and always will be. How else do you explain Mexico getting 2 World Cups in 5?
 
The violence was was also between two teams (or firms) which very rarely face each other.

I think it's remarkable there isn't more violence at football matches, and it's clear that all the authorities involved do a fine job in keeping everybody safe. Sometimes when something of this nature occurs, you have to be thankful that it is the exception, and then give credit to those who are responsible. 

If the WC committee can't recognise that they're idiots.
 
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