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This seasons winners and losers

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Rosco

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Managers. I'm thinking of which ones have done their reputation the most good or harm this season.


Winners:

Roy Hodgson - despite having pennies to spend he's put together a useful Fulham side and kept them in the hunt for a European place all season long.

Tony Pulis - Another who has spent little or nothing and has kept his team in contention for a top ten place. A change in personnel in January altered the team for the better. They now even play some football.

David Moyes - Thread bare squad, suffered injuries to lots of key players. Still about to finish fifth.

Losers:

Paul Ince - Showed he wasn't ready for the Premiership. Still out of work I think.

Tony Adams - The usually quiet David James felt the need to go public about just how bad he was.

Phil Brown - Started exceptionally well, but ever since THAT teamtalk at halftime in the centre circle his team have nosedived. The players even refused to go on a morale boosting day out to Chester Races with him recently.
 
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Was just saying in work today that Pulis or Hodgson should be manager of the year
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I don't get the momentum these stories get in the media.
Surely Ferguson will/should win it considering he has won two domestic cups & is in the CL final.
I can understand why they are considered, but the best mangers/players are the ones who win things.
 
I'd add Zola to the winners list.
Shaky start but West Ham have done really well to come back and I think they can still sneak a European place.
 
Agree with the first five. Phil Brown? Well, the fantastic start showed he had *something*, surely?

Steve Bruce has had another decent season. Southgate's bombed, and would have been out on his arse anywhere else. Harry Redknapp has enhanced his reputation even further, as has Guus Hiddink. Zola's made a very good start. Rafa's reputation as a football manager has risen, even if his rep as a 'nice guy' has been damaged.

As for Shearer... all depends on whether they relegated or not.
 
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[quote author=amber cabs link=topic=33594.msg869943#msg869943 date=1242673683]
Was just saying in work today that Pulis or Hodgson should be manager of the year
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I don't get the momentum these stories get in the media.
Surely Ferguson will/should win it considering he has won two domestic cups & is in the CL final.
I can understand why they are considered, but the best mangers/players are the ones who win things.
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I know what your saying but based on start of season expectations and not a lot of money to spend it'd be nice to see one of these get the recognition they deserve for doing a very good job
 
Brown did show he had something, mainly an overinflated ego (much like his old boss). That directly caused the freefall they've been in.

And everyone thinks he's a bellend don't they ?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33594.msg869959#msg869959 date=1242674224]
Brown did show he had something, mainly an overinflated ego (much like his old boss). That directly caused the freefall they've been in.

And everyone thinks he's a bellend don't they ?
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Erm, yes.

Phil-Brown-001.jpg
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33594.msg869962#msg869962 date=1242674279]
Oh, and Juande Ramos... ha ha ha x2.

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I left him out because his record at Madrid was pretty impressive apart from the humpings us and Barca gave them.

Something like 19 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses out of 22 in the league. Both losses were to Barca
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33594.msg869962#msg869962 date=1242674279]
Oh, and Juande Ramos... ha ha ha x2.

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I left him out because his record at Madrid was pretty impressive apart from the humpings us and Barca gave them.

Something like 19 wins, 1 draw and 2 losses out of 22 in the league. Both losses were to Barca
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He still failed though. Life's tough if you're managing Real Madrid. And as for his record at Spurs...
 
Zola is a great shout, can't believe I forgot him.

There were major doubts about how well he'd do , and given the trumoil behind the scenes he's done really well.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33594.msg869936#msg869936 date=1242673434]
Managers.  I'm thinking of which ones have done their reputation the most good or harm this season.


Winners:

Roy Hodgson - despite having pennies to spend he's put together a useful Fulham side and kept them in the hunt for a European place all season long.

Tony Pulis - Another who has spent little or nothing and has kept his team in contention for a top ten place. A change in personnel in January altered the team for the better. They now even play some football.

David Moyes - Thread bare squad, suffered injuries to lots of key players. Still about to finish fifth.

Losers:

Paul Ince - Showed he wasn't ready for the Premiership. Still out of work I think.

Tony Adams - The usually quiet David James felt the need to go public about just how bad he was.

Phil Brown - Started exceptionally well, but ever since THAT teamtalk at halftime in the centre circle his team have nosedived. The players even refused to go on a morale boosting day out to Chester Races with him recently.

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Can't believe you didn't mention Hiddink
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33594.msg869976#msg869976 date=1242674580]
...where he won the League Cup...
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"Juande Ramos... shits trophies."
 
[quote author=Stu link=topic=33594.msg869949#msg869949 date=1242674009]
[quote author=amber cabs link=topic=33594.msg869943#msg869943 date=1242673683]
Was just saying in work today that Pulis or Hodgson should be manager of the year
[/quote]

I don't get the momentum these stories get in the media.
Surely Ferguson will/should win it considering he has won two domestic cups & is in the CL final.
I can understand why they are considered, but the best mangers/players are the ones who win things.
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There's a column in the "Times" Saturday edition where, this time every season, they number-crunch the results obtained by each manager relative to various factors, including money spent, to see who's got best value out of their squad and therefore - in their view anyway - deserves Manager of the Year. They quite often nominate a manager out of the top four (Moyes got it last year) but this year they reckoned Ferguson won. Rafa was second, with Pulis third.
 
Tony Pulis has done a very good job, but they've spent a lot of money. Ross, the net spend that you talk so much of? Well, they have a higher net spend than us this season. Still he's done a great job, played to their strenghts and kept them up.

I'd say Rafa has done a great job aswell.
 
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Roy Hodgson should be Manager of the Year.
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this.

they're a few points behind Villa who spent £50m last summer
 
Kudos to big chophead Allardyce too who kept that fucking awful Blackburn outfit up too.

And as gormless as he may be, Redknapp has done a great job in turning that Spurs team round as well.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33594.msg870175#msg870175 date=1242692058]
Kudos to big chophead Allardyce too who kept that fucking awful Blackburn outfit up too.

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Hmm. He was pretty lucky to have teams as suicidally shite as West Brom, Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Hull fighting it out to get relegated though.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33594.msg870175#msg870175 date=1242692058]
Kudos to big chophead Allardyce too who kept that fucking awful Blackburn outfit up too.

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Hmm. He was pretty lucky to have teams as suicidally shite as West Brom, Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Hull fighting it out to get relegated though.

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Where were Blackburn when he took over?
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33594.msg870256#msg870256 date=1242715941]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33594.msg870175#msg870175 date=1242692058]
Kudos to big chophead Allardyce too who kept that fucking awful Blackburn outfit up too.

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Hmm. He was pretty lucky to have teams as suicidally shite as West Brom, Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Hull fighting it out to get relegated though.

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Where were Blackburn when he took over?
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Yes, but who was their manager? Even Dreambeliever could have taken over from Ince and looked good.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33594.msg869998#msg869998 date=1242675129]
Tony Pulis has done a very good job, but they've spent a lot of money. Ross, the net spend that you talk so much of? Well, they have a higher net spend than us this season. Still he's done a great job, played to their strenghts and kept them up.

I'd say Rafa has done a great job aswell.
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What about players ?

Winners:

Dirk Kuyt

Jagielka - A good season saw him get a call up for England.


Losers:

Michael Owen - Not only ignored by Capello, but now not even guaranteed a start at Newcastle.

Robbie Keane

Santa Cruz - Back to his usual five goals a season after a top campaign last season.

Dos Santos - From Barca to the Ipswich bench in less than a year.
 
I wouldn't have Brown in the losers section. It was a miracle that he ever got Hull to the premiership let alone still in with a chance of keeping them up on the final day of the season.
 
Disagree. For one thing this is about the season just finishing, not last season. For another, while it's true that Brown did extremely well this season to begin with, he then p!ssed it all away with his ludicrous half-time stunt when they played Man.City and has clearly lost the dressing-room in the wake of that.
 
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