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Bidding closes today for the Premier League UK TV rights from 2019 to 2022. Results expected to be announced next week.

The current deal (2016-2019) was for 168 live matches per season. (Sky paid £4.17bn for 126 matches and BT paid £960m for 42 matches)

The new deal (2019-2022) will be for 200 live matches per season, including 8 matches in a new Saturday night slot.

Rumours persist that the likes of Amazon, Netfix etc. might bid this time.
 
I don't usually take much of an interest in this, but the fact is that TV revenue is our biggest source of income.

TV revenue from the 15/16 accounts, for the top 6:

Man City £161m
Chelsea £143m
Arsenal £141m
Man Utd £140m
Liverpool £124m
Spurs £94m

As a comparison - La Liga 16/17 season TV revenue (in euros)

Barcelona 146.2m
Real Madrid 140m
Atletico Madrid 99m
Athletic Bilbao 71m

I hadn't realised Spain had scrapped the system of clubs negociating their own TV deals.

"Last season was the second campaign in which La Liga sold its television rights collectively following a change in the Spanish law in 2015. Under the previous system, based on club's negotiating their deals individually."

https://www.eurosport.com/football/...al-madrid-on-tv-income_sto6461357/story.shtml
 
Guardian are reporting Google, Facebook and Netflix have not bid for rights. Has the football bubble burst? Guess we'll find out next week
 
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Netflix were never going to bid, anyway.

I think the only tech/ media company who has anything like a similar business strategy is maybe Amazon. But it will be the same deal, at a similar price, with the usual suspects bidding and winning.
 
Why did Arsenal make more than us in TV revenue?

Are those figures total TV revenue, i.e. domestic and European?
 
Why did Arsenal make more than us in TV revenue?

Are those figures total TV revenue, i.e. domestic and European?
Arsenal had 27 prem games broadcast live that season. We had 23.

The figures include TV revenue from CL/Europa games as well. We had the Europa cup run to the final that season. I can't remember how far Arsenal got in the CL.
 
I'm seriously pissed off about Saturday night games.

Whilst there's a part of the market that it will be good for, mostly singles in their twenties I'd imagine, for practically everyone else it'll just mean more games we can't watch.

Obv I'll be watching our games, & pissing off Bex & the kids in the process, but not the other matches, even the good ones, cos it's just too damn inconvenient.

That's not to mention a lot of fans having to travel home late on a Saturday night or pay for hotels on the most expensive night of the week.
 
I'm seriously pissed off about Saturday night games.

Whilst there's a part of the market that it will be good for, mostly singles in their twenties I'd imagine, for practically everyone else it'll just mean more games we can't watch.

Obv I'll be watching our games, & pissing off Bex & the kids in the process, but not the other matches, even the good ones, cos it's just too damn inconvenient.

That's not to mention a lot of fans having to travel home late on a Saturday night or pay for hotels on the most expensive night of the week.

Yep. Even for those of us across the pond, it will be shitting up my marriage too as I can get away with lying on the couch all morning but pushing it to mid-to-late afternoon is sure to cause some strife.
 
Yep. Even for those of us across the pond, it will be shitting up my marriage too as I can get away with lying on the couch all morning but pushing it to mid-to-late afternoon is sure to cause some strife.

Long before marriage, and a decade before having a kid, I traded the right to watching all Liverpool games, for my son's religious upbringing. It's not even my time that's being wasted, and she thinks she got some sort of deal.
 
I'm in my single twenties and I fucking hate the idea of Sat night games. How am I gonna remember any of them?
I've been to a ton of finals and have never been sober for one of them (Istanbul was a close run thing, until we found a kiosk at the airport selling Fosters just before we jumped on the bus to the middle of nowhere. Its better that way.

PS - what is "single twenties", is that just to distinguish it from double & treble twenties (or forties and sixties)?
 
When we played West Brom at 8ish the other week on a Saturday the only people asking me for tickets were kids who were going to head into town after the match to get bladdered. Not a single over 40 odd wants to get home after last orders in their local.

Which is probably a good thing, as far as atmos goes.
 
I've been to a ton of finals and have never been sober for one of them (Istanbul was a close run thing, until we found a kiosk at the airport selling Fosters just before we jumped on the bus to the middle of nowhere. Its better that way.

PS - what is "single twenties", is that just to distinguish it from double & treble twenties (or forties and sixties)?
All part of the quarter life crisis dude
 
I'm seriously pissed off about Saturday night games.

Whilst there's a part of the market that it will be good for, mostly singles in their twenties I'd imagine, for practically everyone else it'll just mean more games we can't watch.

Obv I'll be watching our games, & pissing off Bex & the kids in the process, but not the other matches, even the good ones, cos it's just too damn inconvenient.

That's not to mention a lot of fans having to travel home late on a Saturday night or pay for hotels on the most expensive night of the week.

I love it as will all fans oh the other side of the world.

Watching a game 7am Aussie time on a Sunday beats the hell out of a Sunday 2am or a Monday 3am game with work at 7am
 
I'm seriously pissed off about Saturday night games.

Whilst there's a part of the market that it will be good for, mostly singles in their twenties I'd imagine, for practically everyone else it'll just mean more games we can't watch.

Obv I'll be watching our games, & pissing off Bex & the kids in the process, but not the other matches, even the good ones, cos it's just too damn inconvenient.

That's not to mention a lot of fans having to travel home late on a Saturday night or pay for hotels on the most expensive night of the week.

Personally I don't mind them, i think its better than a Sunday or Monday night. They should move the Monday night fixtures to Friday night.
 
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I stopped watching TV a year ago and I'd recommend it to anyone. Loads more reading done, no idiotic adverts watched, it's bliss.
 
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Saturday night games are the norm in most other countries.

It works well.

I guess the cost of going to games is so ridiculous in the UK, which makes it prohibitive - but becomes a family night out in Oz for AFL.
 
The rights to show Premier League games from 2019-2022 have been sold for £4.464bn - with two live packages still to be sold.

Sky Sports have won the rights to four packages - 128 live matches - while BT Sport have one, comprising 32 games.

Sky will have first choice of every weekend match and will also show Saturday night fixtures (19:45) for the first time.

BT will show Saturday lunchtime fixtures from August 2019.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43002985
 
I don't think Netflix or Amazon will bid. Price is just too high for the content
 
I don't think Netflix or Amazon will bid. Price is just too high for the content

They both have pots of money and Netflix has thrown hundreds of millions at some totally shit content, although it’s essentially Hollywood studio cast-offs like Cloverfield and Bright.

But they don’t have any interest thus far in live/ event TV, so doesn’t seem to fit their strategy right now.

Amazon? Maybe. They’ve dipped their toes into sport already.

Be great if some free to air broadcaster bought up some games, but maybe it’s just not easily monetised given the outlay and all the rest of the cost involved.
 
Amazon bought the WTA tennis games but paid bugger all. £10m a year I believe. I just can't see them bidding for something so expensive. Also they've cut a load of jobs today this despite profits of £3bn on sales of £197bn
 
They'll probably just increase the charge for Amazon Prime, like they usually do. 'You want free delivery? Certainly, sir, and I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that we're also throwing in with that full access to our shite video service and now also a few footie games. That'll be £400 per year!'
 
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