He's done a really good job with Villareal ... Let's see if he can take it up a notch.
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He's done a really good job with Villareal ... Let's see if he can take it up a notch.
Ramos to villareal in return maybe?
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Thats an excellent choice by Real. He'll do a great job.
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And then he'll be sacked.
Thats an excellent choice by Real. He'll do a great job.
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And then he'll be sacked.
the new Sporting director of Real Madrid, Valdano said this in 2007:
The former Real Madrid coach and World Cup winner Jorge Valdano has attacked Rafael BenÃtez and Jose Mourinho, insisting that they are ushering in a bleak future for football and likening the Champions League semi-final between Liverpool and Chelsea to "a shit hanging from a stick".
The Argentinian, who scored in the 1986 World Cup final and has a respected reputation as a football intellectual, claimed that Mourinho and BenÃtez mistrust talent because of their own failure to make it as players and said their approach is bad news for the game.
Writing in Spain's best-selling newspaper, Marca, Valdano insisted: "Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a shit hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a shit hanging from a stick.
"Chelsea and Liverpool are the clearest, most exaggerated example of the way football is going: very intense, very collective, very tactical, very physical, and very direct," he added. "But, a short pass? Noooo. A feint? Noooo. A change of pace? Noooo. A one-two? A nutmeg? A backheel? Don't be ridiculous. None of that. The extreme control and seriousness with which both teams played the semi-final neutralised any creative licence, any moments of exquisite skill.
"If Didier Drogba was the best player in the first match it was purely because he was the one who ran the fastest, jumped the highest and crashed into people the hardest. Such extreme intensity wipes away talent, even leaving a player of Joe Cole's class disoriented. If football is going the way Chelsea and Liverpool are taking it, we had better be ready to wave goodbye to any expression of the cleverness and talent we have enjoyed for a century."
Valdano explained why BenÃtez and Mourinho were to blame for the demise of flair and creativity. "The lives of Mourinho and BenÃtez have crossed in a world that is ever more scrutinised and exposed by the media, which is why they look at each other with such distrust," he wrote, "but they have two things in common: a previously denied, hitherto unsatisfied hunger for glory, and a desire to have everything under control.
"Both of those things stem from one key factor: neither Mourinho nor BenÃtez made it as a player. That has made them channel all their vanity into coaching. Those who did not have the talent to make it as players do not believe in the talent of players, they do not believe in the ability to improvise in order to win football matches. In short, BenÃtez and Mourinho are exactly the kind of coaches that BenÃtez and Mourinho would have needed to have made it as players."
The former Real Madrid coach and World Cup winner Jorge Valdano has attacked Rafael BenÃtez and Jose Mourinho, insisting that they are ushering in a bleak future for football and likening the Champions League semi-final between Liverpool and Chelsea to "a shit hanging from a stick".
The Argentinian, who scored in the 1986 World Cup final and has a respected reputation as a football intellectual, claimed that Mourinho and BenÃtez mistrust talent because of their own failure to make it as players and said their approach is bad news for the game.
Writing in Spain's best-selling newspaper, Marca, Valdano insisted: "Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a shit hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a shit hanging from a stick.
"Chelsea and Liverpool are the clearest, most exaggerated example of the way football is going: very intense, very collective, very tactical, very physical, and very direct," he added. "But, a short pass? Noooo. A feint? Noooo. A change of pace? Noooo. A one-two? A nutmeg? A backheel? Don't be ridiculous. None of that. The extreme control and seriousness with which both teams played the semi-final neutralised any creative licence, any moments of exquisite skill.
"If Didier Drogba was the best player in the first match it was purely because he was the one who ran the fastest, jumped the highest and crashed into people the hardest. Such extreme intensity wipes away talent, even leaving a player of Joe Cole's class disoriented. If football is going the way Chelsea and Liverpool are taking it, we had better be ready to wave goodbye to any expression of the cleverness and talent we have enjoyed for a century."
Valdano explained why BenÃtez and Mourinho were to blame for the demise of flair and creativity. "The lives of Mourinho and BenÃtez have crossed in a world that is ever more scrutinised and exposed by the media, which is why they look at each other with such distrust," he wrote, "but they have two things in common: a previously denied, hitherto unsatisfied hunger for glory, and a desire to have everything under control.
"Both of those things stem from one key factor: neither Mourinho nor BenÃtez made it as a player. That has made them channel all their vanity into coaching. Those who did not have the talent to make it as players do not believe in the talent of players, they do not believe in the ability to improvise in order to win football matches. In short, BenÃtez and Mourinho are exactly the kind of coaches that BenÃtez and Mourinho would have needed to have made it as players."
But more importantly regarding Spanish football...
Does Athletic's copa del rey defeat to barca mean they are in the Europa league since barca are in the European cup? I know they would be if it was the FA cup, is Spain the same?
Does Athletic's copa del rey defeat to barca mean they are in the Europa league since barca are in the European cup? I know they would be if it was the FA cup, is Spain the same?
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But more importantly regarding Spanish football...
Does Athletic's copa del rey defeat to barca mean they are in the Europa league since barca are in the European cup? I know they would be if it was the FA cup, is Spain the same?
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According to Wiki, they're in, which I don't think is a particularly good thing for them.
But more importantly regarding Spanish football...
Does Athletic's copa del rey defeat to barca mean they are in the Europa league since barca are in the European cup? I know they would be if it was the FA cup, is Spain the same?
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According to Wiki, they're in, which I don't think is a particularly good thing for them.
No, it could be a disaster. At least they may be on tv a bit more though.
Cheers keni.
Cheers keni.
Que the "mass exodus" transfer rumours from Villareal. I'll take Santi Cazorla please....although saying that he has said in the past he wouldnt join Real Madrid, I can still see him following Pelegrini there.
Strange move from a club who normally go for a bigger manager but this could work for them.
Will be interesting to see if he can handle superstars.
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
Will be interesting to see if he can handle superstars.
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=33918.msg880136#msg880136 date=1243894829]
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
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Heh, well, I doubt Pelligrini will be trying to overhaul Barcelona by taking to the field himself. It will more likely be attempted by spending obscene amounts of money on new players.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=33918.msg880136#msg880136 date=1243894829]
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
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Heh, well, I doubt Pelligrini will be trying to overhaul Barcelona by taking to the field himself. It will more likely be attempted by spending obscene amounts of money on new players.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33918.msg880223#msg880223 date=1243925005]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=33918.msg880136#msg880136 date=1243894829]
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
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Heh, well, I doubt Pelligrini will be trying to overhaul Barcelona by taking to the field himself. It will more likely be attempted by spending obscene amounts of money on new players.
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Overhaul! So that's what he meant...
Where did you learn to speak Dreambelieverese, keni?
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=33918.msg880136#msg880136 date=1243894829]
How is supposed to overall this Barca team though?
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Uh...?
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Heh, well, I doubt Pelligrini will be trying to overhaul Barcelona by taking to the field himself. It will more likely be attempted by spending obscene amounts of money on new players.
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Overhaul! So that's what he meant...
Where did you learn to speak Dreambelieverese, keni?
If valdano is such a great Sports director why the hell did they fire him a few years ago to hire that Serbian shit on a stick?
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=33918.msg880235#msg880235 date=1243927127]
If valdano is such a great Sports director why the hell did they fire him a few years ago to hire that Serbian shit on a stick?
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Well this is the club that sacked Capello and Del Bosque after title winning seasons.
If valdano is such a great Sports director why the hell did they fire him a few years ago to hire that Serbian shit on a stick?
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Well this is the club that sacked Capello and Del Bosque after title winning seasons.
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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=33918.msg880235#msg880235 date=1243927127]
If valdano is such a great Sports director why the hell did they fire him a few years ago to hire that Serbian shit on a stick?
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Well this is the club that sacked Capello and Del Bosque after title winning seasons.
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As well as managing to sack John Toschack on 3 occacions. Which means they have hired him three times as well 😉
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=33918.msg880235#msg880235 date=1243927127]
If valdano is such a great Sports director why the hell did they fire him a few years ago to hire that Serbian shit on a stick?
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Well this is the club that sacked Capello and Del Bosque after title winning seasons.
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As well as managing to sack John Toschack on 3 occacions. Which means they have hired him three times as well 😉
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