The High Line

[bluebell]

We play much better not playing a highline, a more compact team where we concede possession in the hope of a counter. Is it time we move on from the High Line which doesn't serve our defence well?

 

[Squiggles]

Depends. Without VVD and Konate I would agree with you.

With them in place, I'd like to see us become more compact in the final 25 minutes of games and then spring on the counter with our range of rapid forwards off the bench. We can really damage teams this way and sometimes we do not exploit it enough, IMO.

 

[LMG]

we don't intentionally concede possession, but the amount of times we do is the issue, not the high line. we've had a highline for fucking years, basically since we signed Alisson who can sweep up. it also results in something like 75% more offsides than the next highest number of offsides. If we ditch the high line then we have to reinvent the way we play.

 

[StevieM]

we don't intentionally concede possession, but the amount of times we do is the issue, not the high line. we've had a highline for fucking years, basically since we signed Alisson who can sweep up. it also results in something like 75% more offsides than the next highest number of offsides. If we ditch the high line then we have to reinvent the way we play.

Yep - and the high lign compresses the play so that the press is more effective.

Bluebell is basically suggesting we play like Utd when Ole was at the wheel.

 

[Fabio]

I like the highline when we have the players for it. Unfortunately we don't have the players for it as much anymore

 

[bluebell]

With the addition of Gravenberch and Endo, can we afford to go in games with 3 MFs?
I'd like us to revert to 4-4-2 or 3-4-3

 

[rurikbird]

With the addition of Gravenberch and Endo, can we afford to go in games with 3 MFs?
I'd like us to revert to 4-4-2 or 3-4-3

Don’t get your question, 4-4-2 and 3-4-3 both feature a CM pair rather than a trio.

 

[bluebell]

Don’t get your question, 4-4-2 and 3-4-3 both feature a CM pair rather than a trio.

I don't like the 4-3-3 formation, it leaves to many gaps for our opposition to exploit, I think with the current personnel of players we have need more bodies in MF (who actually MFs) hence having 4 MF. So you could have Alu Mac on the LMF, Dom on the RMF, and a double pivot of Endo and Gravenberch.

 

[binomial]

We play much better not playing a highline, a more compact team where we concede possession in the hope of a counter. Is it time we move on from the High Line which doesn't serve our defence well?

For the love of god, yes but it sure as hell aint happening whilst Klopp is here.....unless we go down to 10 men every game.

The 1 thing I did wish we could do was switch up to a plan B, but it just seems to be high press, high line. High on coke, high high high.

 

[moron]

For the love of god, yes but it sure as hell aint happening whilst Klopp is here.....unless we go down to 10 men every game.

The 1 thing I did wish we could do was switch up to a plan B, but it just seems to be high press, high line. High on coke, high high high.

Yeah I know, it's silly, he's all German our coach - "Hit those bastards with everything we have" - non stop, "Oh their tired for the next game...can't be because I have run them like dogs"

 

[binomial]

Yeah I know, it's silly, he's all German our coach - "Hit those bastards with everything we have" - non stop, "Oh their tired for the next game...can't be because I have run them like dogs"

What he demands from his players and the intensity levels he sets we can't fault, it's got him to where he is today....as one of the best managers in the world.....it's just sometimes we look as if we don't know what to do when teams wanna play a low block and want to allow us 70%+ possession in their box because then the high press is pretty futile....you need to be making the moments count when you do have the ball, times like those where it'd be good to have a different game plan.

 

[moron]

What he demands from his players and the intensity levels he sets we can't fault, it's got him to where he is today....as one of the best managers in the world.....it's just sometimes we look as if we don't know what to do when teams wanna play a low block and want to allow us 70%+ possession in their box because then the high press is pretty futile....you need to be making the moments count when you do have the ball, times like those where it'd be good to have a different game plan.

I don't think many players will go for a low block anymore against us. They did not last season, mainly because they always thought they had a chance against our midfield. But things have changed now, we have players that can actually pass quickly at any angle/on the turn etc. so it's likely we don't need as much wing play as before to break low blocks - we will try and go through them with skill.