The Fight to Avoid the Europa League
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It's fucking shite and will cost us in the league again. Also Rodgers is extra turd in europe
Yep.. we need Rafa to help us win it.. Rodger will probably fail to get out the group stage... 😀
Seriously its a trophy and with the trophy comes CL qualification. Top 4 will be harder next season, so we may as well give it a shot..
Didn't stop Falcoa or Di Maria going to Utd.
It's not the pull that it used to be.
We struggled to sign players with Champions League football so not being in the Europa league wouldn't make any difference.
We obviously will be though.
Can't wait for those trips to Russia of a Thursday evening whilst trying to make up ground all season long in the league with 3 o clock Sunday kick offs.
Should be great fun.
I fucking hate the thing now. If I thought Rodgers was capable of getting us even close to winning it I'd feel differently, but as it is it'll just fuck up the season, shite kick off times, playing on Sundays, players suffering that mad hangover from Thursday matches despite it being the same days rest as you get in the CL, playing on potato fields in Siberia, & faced with the prospect of doing it for about twelvety-hundred matches before even getting a sniff of the final.
No thank you. Liverpool exist to win trophies, but this doesn't give us the chance of winning one, but merely takes away the chances of winning the others.
No thank you. Liverpool exist to win trophies, but this doesn't give us the chance of winning one, but merely takes away the chances of winning the others.
Mostly agree, but would add that what Liverpool really exist to win are the big trophies. The Europa League ain't on that very short list.
I suspect mine is a mostly contrary view but I would rather we were in it and if I was to list trophies in order of importance then it would be the one tucked in behind the league title and Champions league.
Our European standing ie co efficient, is pretty low at present and absence from European competition would depress it even further.
If we do make it back into the Champions league group stages we don't need to be seeded in the forth group, especially in light of how we struggled in this year's group..
I know that there is some evidence that teams results suffers as a consequence of playing in the Europa league but I would like to see is it appreciably worse that those of the teams in the Champions league.
Some of the arguments I have heard for us not competing in it is that there are even less 3pm Saturday kick off's but in this modern day, those times are pretty much redundant anyhow.
I know the group stages are a pain but once negotiated, the knock out stages usually contain plenty of quality sides and it should not be something to be sniffed at.
Our European standing ie co efficient, is pretty low at present and absence from European competition would depress it even further.
If we do make it back into the Champions league group stages we don't need to be seeded in the forth group, especially in light of how we struggled in this year's group..
I know that there is some evidence that teams results suffers as a consequence of playing in the Europa league but I would like to see is it appreciably worse that those of the teams in the Champions league.
Some of the arguments I have heard for us not competing in it is that there are even less 3pm Saturday kick off's but in this modern day, those times are pretty much redundant anyhow.
I know the group stages are a pain but once negotiated, the knock out stages usually contain plenty of quality sides and it should not be something to be sniffed at.
It would be third on the list for me too BUT it'd be a long way behind the top two in my order of priorities. You have to win the whole thing for there to be any major payoff in respect of CL entry, and as others have said it's a long, hard road to get there. I don't know the figures but I'd be surprised if playing on Thursdays didn't have a more significant effect on the following weekend's games than playing on Wednesdays or, especially, Tuesdays and I very much doubt that coming second in the league last season had nothing to do with the fact that we didn't enter the Europa League that season.
I think the most defining factor why they qualified this season was that they had a fresh squad that wasn't travelling around the arse end of Europe of a Thursday night.
Rodgers would be mental not to use the competition as a way of gaining more experience for himself in Europe. He was massively out of his depth in the European Cup this season. This is why I think signing someone like Pirlo would make massive sense; he'd be a guiding hand in the Europa league and, if we're in the position of actually winning things towards the end of the season, his experience would be massive as Gary Mac's was.
I think they should just scrap the group stages and have it as a straight, two-legged knock out competition.
I agree.
I seem to be in the minority here but I've seen how Italian clubs engage with the competition and I think we can use it to our benefit assuming we're in it next season. It might give the likes of Yesil a chance to impress, for instance.
It would give the fringe players chance to shine though an early exit from competition wouldn't be accepted.
Well I hope beyond all hope that we don't have to re-mould the team this summer and have a fairly well-defined system that allows players to slot in and out. But yes, there is that risk that we play a b-team who haven't really played together and then go out early.
The only thing worse than being in the Europa league, is not being in Europe at all. I'm more than happy for us to be in it, but we should definitely prioritise it differently to the league, especially in the first half of the season.
The club, well manager whoever he may be, should come out and say we are using the Europa Leage to play fringe players, bringing players up to fitness and bringing through younger players. The majority of first team players will remain at home.
Ticket prices should be fixed at a low price to reflect this.
Ticket prices should be fixed at a low price to reflect this.
[article=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/13c3ae7c-ffdb-11e4-bc30-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=uk]Professional football is not renowned for altruism. Yet a quirk in the Uefa coefficient system may call for exactly that, at least if the English Premier League wants to keep hold of its coveted fourth Champions League (CL) spot.
The coefficient system sees each national association awarded points based on a five-year average of its teams’ results in the Champions and Europa leagues, the latter of which a Premier League player last week said he was “relieved” to have missed out on.
The top three countries by this measure are each awarded four spots in the Champions League. England will finish this season in second place, but Germany are on course to overtake them next season and Italy are rapidly gaining ground.
And Europa League success has provided 12.1 of Italy’s 19 coefficient points this season. No country has secured even as many as 10 points from the tournament in recent years, despite all major leagues beginning each season with the same number of participants.
In fact Italy’s EL coefficient contribution this year is almost three times England’s 4.2. So far this season Italy has gained 5.4 coefficient points net on England across both tournaments, and a Juventus win in next month’s CL final would increase that to 7.4.
Some at Premier League clubs may like to think Europe’s less glamorous competition is little more than a distraction from taking a tilt at the top four or securing a greater share of the vast broadcast revenues. But if they’re not careful, that fourth spot may have lost its appeal.
The solution is for altruism to prevail: instead of bemoaning the late Thursday night flights across Europe, clubs would do well to consider the indirect benefits both to future fourth place finishers and to the English game as a whole of an extended run in the Europa League.[/article]
After Sevilla's triumph yesterday:
There will also be 5 Spanish teams in CL next season.
2015/16 UEFA Champions League
There will also be 5 Spanish teams in CL next season.
2015/16 UEFA Champions League
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