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Those stats are very good. The mehness has decreased slightly.
You're being harsh ... there's a reason he's not starting, and it has little to do with his talent or form. Roman's pet project has to start every game -
I've barely watched Sturridge play, so I'm in absolute ignorance as to whether this is a good idea or not.
However, there does seem to be a certain sense of deja vu about spending quite a lot of money on English players and there being an alarming amount of people saying "not worth it".
Hopefully this (and Ince) will buck the trend, eh?
However, there does seem to be a certain sense of deja vu about spending quite a lot of money on English players and there being an alarming amount of people saying "not worth it".
Hopefully this (and Ince) will buck the trend, eh?
The reason he's not starting mate is that he doesn't conform to 'team'. Not under this manager, or the previous 3 there and that's got little to do with Torres.
Just to be clear - I rate his potential and his ability, but there's a reason why he hasn't played under any manager at that club and it's got nothing to did with Torres or a lack of ability - it's cos he can't be trusted.
And anyway, I was merely referring to the 'English premium' attached to players like this. In no other country would you be paying 12M for someone like him.
Heh, true dat.
It's difficult to find value with English players, and we aren't bucking the trend.
Absolutely. That's why the reported figure of 16M for Callejon in another thread is a joke. Players who haven't made it at a top club (and are taking a step down) generally go for comparatively fuck all in other leagues. We can say we're paying for potential, which Sturridge clearly has, but we're overpaying. Again.
Several twitter rumours that this deal has stalled
Liverpool hit snag over Sturridge after resolving to slash agents' fees
• Reds line up PSG's Kevin Gameiro as back-up
• Thomas Ince's return from Blackpool still likely
• Reds line up PSG's Kevin Gameiro as back-up
• Thomas Ince's return from Blackpool still likely
Email- Andy Hunter
- The Guardian, Wednesday 19 December 2012 22.30 GMT
Liverpool's manager Brendan Rodgers has taken soundings from Daniel Sturridge's former managers and got postitive reports. Photograph: Paul Gilham/The FA via Getty
Liverpool's owner, Fenway Sports Group, has hardened its resolved to reduce the club's exorbitant spending on agent fees, leading to a complication in the proposed £12m transfer of Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge next month.
Anfield officials are at an advanced stage in deals for the forward and Thomas Ince, the former Liverpool trainee who joined Blackpool for a £250,000 compensation fee in August 2011, to the extent that Sturridge had been due to travel to Merseyside on Wednesday for a medical. Those plans were shelved late on Tuesday following a problem in negotiations between Liverpool and the 23-year-old's representative, Octagon, which wants a percentage of any sell-on fee. Liverpool will try to secure Kevin Gameiro on an initial six-month loan from Paris St-Germain should the deal collapse.
Brendan Rodgers has spoken to other Premier League managers who have worked with Sturridge and is hopeful the former Manchester City youth player will sign. Gameiro, however, has emerged as an alternative. The 25-year-old has made eight appearances for France but has found his opportunities limited at PSG since the arrival of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Everton are also interested in the PSG striker.
Liverpool remain confident of signing Sturridge in January, however, and providing Luis Suárez with much-needed support. The England international is keen to sign for Rodgers and has agreed personal terms having seen his opportunities limited at Stamford Bridge since the departure of André Villas-Boas as manager. Liverpool are also heading a host of Premier League clubs interesting in taking Ince from the Championship, with the 35% sell-on clause they inserted into his contract with Blackpool enabling them to reduce the £6m asking price.
Talks with Octagon have stalled, not broken down, however, but that comes at a time when FSG is determined to reduce Liverpool's spending on agent fees and to get better value for money in the transfer market than it has done since buying the club in October 2010. The club have given an eye-watering £31.3m to agents since 2008‑09, a figure topped only by the billionaire-owned Manchester City (£39m) and Chelsea (£31.8m) in the same period.
Recently released figures for 1 October 2011 to 30 September 2012 showed only City spent more than Liverpool in that time, moreover. They topped the agent payments list, and the Premier League in May, with £10,537,982 spent while Liverpool, who finished eighth and sacked Kenny Dalglish as a result, paid agents £8,600,444. Manchester United spent £3,681,580. FSG is determined to harden its negotiating stance with agents, rather than a player's personal terms, and believe Liverpool have been viewed as a soft-touch in recent years.
But Kenny was a useless cunt for sanctioning such deals yet in the past you've bigged up Rodgers.
What on earth are you talking about?
You're talking about overpaying for dubious English players. You panned Kenny for the same thing.
I've already said above and in ohter threads that I'm not convinced by this Sturridge move.
Errrrr.....thanks for proving my point.
So Carroll, at the point we signed him, having scored more goals than Sturridge ever had, was worth £1m less?
Given his club and England status, probably. If we didn't get Carroll in the last hours of transfer deadline day we wouldn't have paid anywhere near as much.
His scoring record from Wiki
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2005–2008 Strasbourg 58 (10)
2008–2011 Lorient 108 (50)
2011–2012 PSG 45 (15)
Kev certainly seems to find the onion bag with some aplomb.
It's a simple concept. You slagged Dalglish off to high heaven for overspending on not great talent, now you are questioning buying Sturridge, a decision made by a manager you like. When can we expect the 'Rodgers is a useless cunt' posts?
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