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SOS: Hicks and Gillette not welcome

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check out this post from SOS, it looks like the police wont let Hicks in for his own safety, well done to the protesters

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Graham Smith
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This is the story of the day from an SOS perspective (I'll post this on other sites too if you don't mind).

By about 12.45pm we had each of the four entrances covered by about 10 or 15 people but the numbers grew throughout the afternoon. We had been contacted in the morning by the police who had got wind of some sort of protest (they mentioned websites so quite clearly, and understandably, they monitor what is posted). I have been the liaison with the Police so we indicated that there was to be a protest as we understood the owners where to attend. I was told in that conversation that the Club had said that none of the owners where to attend. The point was made that all the officer (who to be fair is extremely reasonable and fair as far as my dealings have been with him) was doing was repeating what he had been told. We made the point that everyone would look very stupid if it turned out that the Club were trying it on. The officer said he would be personally "very emabarrassed".

We then got credible reports from the people inside the Club at a senior level that Foster Gillett was going to attend. This clearly put a different slant on the misinformation that the police were receiving.

By about 1.45pm it was clear that we could not rely upon anything we were hearing so it was decided to concentrate upon the Shankly Gates entrance and everyone was whistled around to there. With onlookers and those taking part there were now a couple of hundred people.

The stewards were fine (only doing their jobs) but were starting to overstep their authority with stepping out of the gates and asking people to move back. At this stage there was only one officer deployed but shortly four police horses arrived and then a further couple after that. Then a minibus of police deployed by us as well.

If you know the Shankly Gates and Anfield Road there is a small pavement either side of the road by the entrance. We were penned to the right hand side as you look at the gates with horses next to us.

There were a couple of false alarms (Howard Webb's minibus got challenged at one point and a Carlsberg bus got stopped and emptied) but no one senior from the Club was able or prepared to say anything other than they had been told that neither of the owners were coming. Upon being challenged by us about the fact that there were credible sources saying that Foster Gillett was coming despoite them telling the police what they did the response was "he's not an owner, he's only a director". That didn't help the situation.

The crowd built until there was a shout that a silver people carrier had Foster Gillett in it (we had spotters up the road). At this point there was the only flashpoint of the afternoon, a couple of the horses pranced around a bit, one sitting on the car bonnet and the officers jumped in. One officer on a horse was pretty aggressive but the horse deployment itself was over the top and caused more problems than it solved. There was a surge from the pavement and the minibus was stopped. In the melee the police arrested two lads (one a Committee Member) for "public order" offences. The previous arrest was a drunk and disorderly of a bloke who wouldn't stop backchatting the same horse officer who seemed the most aggressive.

The police made it clear that they would allow the demonstration but would not allow the road to be blocked.

The senior officer took a couple of us to one side and indicated that he felt the atmosphere was not peaceful. We had previously asked him to verify who was in the ground and who was not. The view being that if he verified they were already in then that would lower the temperature, but if they were not in then he should also tell us and get verification of who was expected. He said, not unreasonably, that he would be relying upon what he was told by the Club and also the message that he was getting was that the "Club" didn't know who was coming or not coming. We responded by saying that in that case we would remain for as long as we could.

Ultimately the officer said to us that he would not allow the owners to come to the ground as he felt that there was a safety issue all round. We said what did that mean and he said that he would turn their vehicle away from Anfield Road. We said all all that would do would be to see them sneak in somewhere else. He said no, the police monitored all approaches and would not allow them near.

We remained for another 15 minutes or so as the officer disappeared. Next thing is two lads who had been further up the road said a Black Range Rover had stopped and a police officer had got in and turned the car around while staying in it himself. One lad said he was 95% certain that Tom Hicks was in the car.

The crowd stayed a liitle longer (it was now 3.15pm) but we slowly dispersed on the following bases:

1. This is not a one off isolated protest;

2. We had made a very serious point to the Club about the owners no longer being welcome;

3. The police assurred us that the owners would not be allowed near the ground today, and on the basis that we would see if that happened (i.e. that both the police and Club could be believed) - if the police weren't truthful or the Club continued to lie then the next protest would not cooperate;

4. There was no doubt that the protest had made a mark.

Ultimately, I'd characterise the protest as "feisty" but definitely peaceful and non-violent. There were empty seats in the Directors' Box but we await feedback from all sources about who actually did or didn't get in.

We also await information about the three arrested lads who we were told were taken to Wavertree nick.

All in all, the ante has been upped and we'll be back next time we get a sniff that they intend to try and swan in to our ground.
 
So they stopped someone who wasn't there going in the ground? They are becoming more and more deluded.
Also are this lot that fucking thick that they think the Directors entrance is the only way into the ground?
If you get in the ground an hour before kick off you can usually see several of the staff and players walking from the Centenary stand to the Tunnel, having parked in the centenary stand car park.
Would they also have us believe that a few dozen protesters would stop an owner of a football club taking up his rightful seat....bollocks


regards
 
In addition to which, what's the point of such a stunt in the first place? I'm no cheerleader for the owners myself but, as long as they do still own the club, I'd have thought it far more important to keep dialogue open - and not to frighten any potential new investors away.
 
SOS are pricks, trying to stop G&H going in to the club that they own, deluded is the only word for them.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37905.msg1014216#msg1014216 date=1260827848]
Trying to give a clear message that the owners are not welcome isn't a bad thing, overall
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True enough but this is borderline pathetic. Would they rather the owners not turn up at all? Have owners who don't care? I'm not championing the owners at all but this is hardly gonna disrupt their business model is It?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37905.msg1014227#msg1014227 date=1260828854]
I doubt SOS are daft enough to think it will
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I think you give them too much credit brother Brendan

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=37905.msg1014246#msg1014246 date=1260830615]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37905.msg1014227#msg1014227 date=1260828854]
I doubt SOS are daft enough to think it will
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I think you give them too much credit brother Brendan

regards
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I've held a pretty strong dislike of the SOS brigade for a long time, but I don't mind this sort of thing.

When they're trying to stop Liverpool fans buying Carlsberg or banking with RBS it's really quite embarrassing. However when they keep their protests peaceful and reinforce the message that we want the owners on, then fair enough.
 
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So for the first time in ages, these two carpetbaggers actually have two cents to rub off each other and this is what happens?
 
So are they essentially saying that their presence - not a huge amount of them either really - managed to persuade the police to stop the owners coming into their own club? Hardly likely is it? If the yanks wanted to get in they would have got in and the old bill would just have removed the protesters.

I'm sure it helped them feel like proper fans though. Standing outside a gate rather than, er, being inside watching the match.
 
I did not like the concept right from the start.
I am sure the majority are right thinking Liverpool fans going along for the right reasons.
However with any organisation like this, you just don't know who is on-board, and if they have ever had any allegiance or in it for the right motives.
What really did it for me was their last pathetic protest, you know the one when they were saying that upwards of 10,000 would be marching and in the end it seemed about fifty to sixty, and a lot of them were kids tagging on to the end. They were marshaled by stewards in the Main Stand car park singing their anti owner chants and some shouting "scab" at anyone, including yours truly, that was quite reasonably making their way into the ground.
I think that sets the scene of the roots of many of the mouthpieces of SOS.
What really upsets me is hi-jacking the great mans name seems to give them some credibility, and that name should be sacrosanct.

regards
 
I would be very surprised if Dunk doesn't present himself as a supporter of the SOS. From afar of course
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=37905.msg1014450#msg1014450 date=1260872040]
I would be very surprised if Dunk doesn't present himself as a supporter of the SOS. From afar of course
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He could well be a fund-raiser for them :🙂

regards
 
It seems like an ideal little scheme for him to latch himself onto, claiming to be 'in with them' all behind the scenes, stealing their posts from other sites and presenting it as his own inside information, thinking that being associated with them gives him some kind legitimacy as a proper fan, and yes ultimately giving him another outlet to ask for donations if funds at Dunk Towers run a bit short.

If I get really bored later I might go over and have a look. I bet the same information from this thread is on there as a Sticky
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=37905.msg1014318#msg1014318 date=1260839394]
So for the first time in ages, these two carpetbaggers actually have two cents to rub off each other and this is what happens?


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In. A. Nutshell.
 
[quote author=Juanito link=topic=37905.msg1015018#msg1015018 date=1260946046]
I actually feel a bit sick after reading the replies in this thread.
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Care to discuss why?
 
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=37905.msg1015027#msg1015027 date=1260948410]
[quote author=Juanito link=topic=37905.msg1015018#msg1015018 date=1260946046]
I actually feel a bit sick after reading the replies in this thread.
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Care to discuss why?
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Exactly what I was thinking.


We all laughed at the mancs as they protested and made themselves a public laughing stock protesting against their current owners. Now we go and present ourselves as another sound bite for the national news teams to paint us as a two bit club fighting amongst ourselves.


I'm with Vlad on the fact that a distinctly average, nothing group of so called fans can tarnish the name of the great man himself. A pity LFC can't patent the name to ensure no one uses it or an approximation of it.
 
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=37905.msg1015027#msg1015027 date=1260948410]


Care to discuss why?
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Actually no.

Your minds seem to be made up so there's no point. I just don't care to see the likes of Jay McKenna and P Gardner being described as 'thick fucks' or 'superfans' or 'embarrassing'.
 
Well that's the impression they are giving. You can see why we might think that surely?
If that's not the case then I for one am more than happy to listen and hear why.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=37905.msg1015255#msg1015255 date=1260986161]
Well that's the impression they are giving. You can see why we might think that surely?

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Impression to who?? A clique on an internet forum??

Considering the work they put into the union, the organisation involved and the work they do for the community then no, i cant see why you've got that impression.
 
[quote author=Juanito link=topic=37905.msg1015245#msg1015245 date=1260985118]
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=37905.msg1015027#msg1015027 date=1260948410]


Care to discuss why?
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Actually no.

Your minds seem to be made up so there's no point. I just don't care to see the likes of Jay McKenna and P Gardner being described as 'thick fucks' or 'superfans' or 'embarrassing'.
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Well Mr Paul Rice who sits next to my family tickets at the match has decided to speak on behalf of me and my family, offering my opinion on matters when he has not asked for our view. He has decided to help organise peaceful (yeah! that youtube footage is not peaceful) protests, where about 24 people actually show up and throw things at random cars.
So forgive me if we are a little annoyed, no, furious about this militant, self-appointed group of lads shouting the odds when they do not represent the views of the majority.
Stamping feet and throwing toys will not achieve what they hope to achieve.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=37905.msg1015260#msg1015260 date=1260986526]


Well Mr Paul Rice who sits next to my family tickets at the match has decided to speak on behalf of me and my family, offering my opinion on matters when he has not asked for our view. He has decided to help organise peaceful (yeah! that youtube footage is not peaceful) protests, where about 24 people actually show up and throw things at random cars.
So forgive me if we are a little annoyed, no, furious about this militant, self-appointed group of lads shouting the odds when they do not represent the views of the majority.
Stamping feet and throwing toys will not achieve what they hope to achieve.
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Hahahaa militant?? Because some lad threw a few a leaflets at a people carrier??

Whoosh.

Like i said, no point in discussing it.
 
Ok then what work is this?
The work we see is a handful of people waiting outside a gate waiting for a car that isn't coming, shouting at fans who want to watch their team
and congratulating themselves for a job well done.

What else do the SOS do which is good for the rest of the fans?
 
I don't understand why you are so unwilling to inform Liverpool fans about the actions of a group which is supposed to be acting in the best interests of Liverpool fans.

Unless you don't really know that is.
 
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