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So Suarez did have a release clause.

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Nah, this is the thread all discussions should happen in
 
So when is the 'forced to sell Suarez' situation going to happen? This summer? Next January? Next summer?

Champions league will make Suarez stay. If Henry fucking come out and say forced to sell Suarez soon i'll fucking burn the whole Anfield. Fucking hell.
 
How?

It just means all 3 parties knew the clause and all 3 parties knew it was a no sell.


He had a release clause, he wanted to leave and we decided we didn't want to honour the clause. I wouldn't be impressed if an employer decided not to honour a part of my contract.

Didn't Dnipro do this to us with Konoplyanka? That left a lot of people confused about how we could've met a release clause and still not be able to complete a signing because the owner refused.
 
He had a release clause, he wanted to leave and we decided we didn't want to honour the clause. I wouldn't be impressed if an employer decided not to honour a part of my contract.

Didn't Dnipro do this to us with Konoplyanka? That left a lot of people confused about how we could've met a release clause and still not be able to complete a signing because the owner refused.
The difference with Konoplyanka was that the sell was agreed but the money wasn't exchanged in time (allegedly) whereas Henry just said no. There was no ambiguity, everybody knew what was happening. This isn't news to him, maybe to us but not him. His time for peevishness was then not now.

Besides Suarez has got a new contract, with a team that's progressing so he's happy so it's a mute point.
 
The difference with Konoplyanka was that the sell was agreed but the money wasn't exchanged in time (allegedly) whereas Henry just said no. There was no ambiguity, everybody knew what was happening. This isn't news to him, maybe to us but not him. His time for peevishness was then not now.

Besides Suarez has got a new contract, with a team that's progressing so he's happy so it's a mute point.


But another strong allegation was that the Dnipro owner just refused to sign off on the deal and later came out with the excuse that they ran out of time, so there's no difference if that's true. That's all fine and Suarez looks like he's over it now but whats the point in coming out with this publicly? There's no need to remind Suarez he was denied something he probably thought was set in stone, it also makes us look a little untrustworthy.

It's not moot because we don't know yet if it has angered Suarez or his representatives, but like you say we have a seemingly happy player, new contract etc why did he open his mouth? Because we just went second above Arsenal on goal difference and he wanted to make a bask in the glory, big balls, look at me, I told you so statement about how he refused to let Suarez go and it's just seemingly paid off.
 
If this is the case, then Suarez already knew of it, so its hardly some bombshell.

It is a bit dumb, Suarez has conducted himself perfectly this season, and it will just invite some unnecessary questions in Spanish interviews, which for some reason footballers don't think get translated, which they do of course, badly.

It shouldn't make much of a difference though, really.
 
But another strong allegation was that the Dnipro owner just refused to sign off on the deal and later came out with the excuse that they ran out of time, so there's no difference if that's true. That's all fine and Suarez looks like he's over it now but whats the point in coming out with this publicly? There's no need to remind Suarez he was denied something he probably thought was set in stone, it also makes us look a little untrustworthy.

It's not moot because we don't know yet if it has angered Suarez or his representatives, but like you say we have a seemingly happy player, new contract etc why did he open his mouth? Because we just went second above Arsenal on goal difference and he wanted to make a bask in the glory, big balls, look at me, I told you so statement about how he refused to let Suarez go and it's just seemingly paid off.
To prove that Henry knew what he was doing and to give confidence that he has the club at heart and not the player. I don't know, either way it really doesn't matter other than how you want to read in to it.

My perspective it's a win for Suarez, it's a win for Henry and, ultimately, a win for Liverpool.
 
To prove that Henry knew what he was doing and to give confidence that he has the club at heart and not the player. I don't know, either way it really doesn't matter other than how you want to read in to it.

My perspective it's a win for Suarez, it's a win for Henry and, ultimately, a win for Liverpool.


Don't get me wrong I'm glad he ignored the clause and I totally agree it's a win for the club but I'll have to disagree with you slightly on the win for Henry bit. It's like when Dave Whelan opens his mouth and I roll my eyes thinking why the fuck are you gossiping about your clubs business in public.
 
Don't get me wrong I'm glad he ignored the clause and I totally agree it's a win for the club but I'll have to disagree with you slightly on the win for Henry bit. It's like when Dave Whelan opens his mouth and I roll my eyes thinking why the fuck are you gossiping about your clubs business in public.
Let them, they do, after all, own their clubs (to some extent, well, more than us). Besides, can't say Henry is in the same class as Whelan. If it was Arye that opened his mouth then I'd agree with you 😉
 
I think its more he isn't actually fully aware of intricate details at the club tbh plus maybe a little bit of braggadacio on his part.

I would doubt very much that there was a cast iron clause that we just ignored it and if we did surely we would be in breach of contract and liable to be sued by the parties involved(?)

There probably was some sort of clause but it was not strong enough and was open to interpretation.

Either way it's pretty clumsy press from Henry IMHO, even though it worked out well in the end, at face value he has just announced that both he and the manager are liars given there conduct in the summer and can only have given yet more power to Luis elbow should he push for another move.

YES it is funny but it should have been kept private IMHO.
 
Its water under the bridge. Best business decision he made.

Suarez will play CL football with us. Its his dream to play at Anfield in the CL.
 
Obviously no one is going to sue him but it doesn't do our credibility any good.
 
Only if you choose to believe that soundbites and quotes have any useful value in contract negotiations with players and agents (and other clubs, for that matter). In any case, credibility is a two-way street - agents and players hardly cover themselves in glory when it comes to that, so it'd be pretty rich for them to even bring that to the table as a bargaining chip. Henry's message basically underscores that, he basically made it in a blunter way.
 
Didn't the PFA confirm there was no clause of any worth though? This is all awfully confusing.
 
Didn't the PFA confirm there was no clause of any worth though? This is all awfully confusing.

Nah. He's just trying to assert owners & clubs ownership of players again.

It seems to mean nothing now so he's trying to make people & players believe otherwise.

Worth a try.

It also makes Suarez value higher in the summer...
 
I wonder if Henry is going on about a gentlemans agreement in his contract that we had to talk at 40mill, or whether he's on about a clause that said we're obliged to sell, but it was written poorly on a legal front? If it's the later, that's pretty ballsy, surely Suarez would have had a pretty strong case to take us to court if he really wanted to leave if that was the case.
 
Gerrard convince Suarez to stay and thank God for that. Now lets win the league for Suarez and show him that he can realise all his ambitions right here.
 
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Suarez's clause was tested by various lawyers & the PFA. John Henry has either been misquoted or not got his own wording right.
 
Our owners stood up to a player and his agent and we're better off because of it. Fucking brilliant in my eyes.
 
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An angry Arsenal fan has set up a petition to ‘free’ Luis Suarez from Liverpool, following John W. Henry’s comments regarding the striker’s failed summer transfer.
The Gunners’ infamous £40million plus £1 offer was rebuffed by the Reds, who claimed Suarez had no such release clause in his contract – contrary to what the North Londoners believed.
However, Liverpool’s American owner appeared to contradict that fact over the weekend, leading to one Gooner demanding that the Reds release Suarez from his current contract, apologise to Arsenal football club and hand over £4.5m as compensation.
After being besieged on Twitter by irate Liverpool fans, the @FreeSuarez1 account, who set-up the petition tweeted: ‘My dad is a lawyer and thinks because Liverpool has breached Suarez’ contract he can legally switch to Arsenal for FREE.’
 
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