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So is the World champion a He or She?

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New world 800m champion Caster Semenya has been asked to take a gender test, according to athletics' governing body.

The International Association of Athletics Federations says it demanded the test three weeks ago amid fears she should not be able to run as a woman.

IAAF spokesman Nick Davies said the "extremely complex, difficult" test results were not due for several weeks.

The South African athletics federation insists it is "completely sure" that Semenya, 18, is a female.

"We would not have entered her in the female competition if we had any doubts," said a statement.

Semenya won gold in impressive fashion on Wednesday, leaving her rivals trailing as she won in a time of one minute, 55.45 seconds.

Defending champion Janeth Jepkosgei was second, a massive 2.45 seconds adrift, with Britain's Jenny Meadows taking bronze.

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For once, the tittle-tattle was not the usual sort about performance-enhancing substances. This was more basic and a whole lot nastier: was the 'she' actually a 'he'?

Semenya did not attend a post-race news conference following her success, but IAAF secretary general Pierre Weiss did appear before the media.

"We know you want to talk to her, but she is young, she is inexperienced and she is not able to reply properly to all your questions," he said.

"I will answer for her. The decision not to put her up was taken by the IAAF and the South African federation.

"I repeat, she was not prepared for a situation like this."

Weiss insisted the IAAF had handled the situation as best as it could and defended the timing of the announcement to test Semenya.

"She was unknown three weeks ago," he said. "No one could have anticipated this. We are fast but we are not a lion."

He added: "If it is proved that she is not a female, she will be withdrawn and the medals revised. At the moment, the athlete must be given the benefit of the doubt."

Semenya burst on to the world stage when she ran 1.56.72 in Bambous last month, smashing her previous personal best by more than seven seconds.

She also broke Zola Budd's long-standing South African record and arrived here as the newly-crowned African junior champion.

If it's a natural thing and the athlete has always thought she's a woman or been a woman, it's not exactly cheating

IAAF spokesman Nick Davies
"In the case of this athlete, following her breakthrough in the African junior championships, the rumours, the gossip was starting to build up," said Davies.

"The gender verification test is an extremely complex procedure. The situation today is that we do not have any conclusive evidence that she should not be allowed to run."

A group of doctors, including an endocrinologist, a gynaecologist, an internal medicine expert, an expert on gender and a psychologist, have started the testing procedure but it is uncertain when the results will be known.

Weiss said testing was being done in Berlin and South Africa but admitted it was a complex issue.

"At this stage, it's confusing," he said. "Personally I have no clue what's going on. I rely on and trust our doctors. We would have preferred not to have had a controversy."

After the race, Meadows said: "It's up to the IAAF to sort it out. You can't do anything about who is out there.

"There's just eight people on the track and you just have to make sure you're in the first three to get a medal."
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Ps-He isnt the only one. You can practically see this lads cock

lopes-priscilla-cp0808-584.jpg
 
[quote author=irishred link=topic=35360.msg928927#msg928927 date=1250763954]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35360.msg928840#msg928840 date=1250759295]
So Semenya - Which is it? She (sorry 'It') does look a bit dodge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpblUehi9Dk


[/quote]

That should be a clue.

[/quote]

Semen.... Ya??

Theres another.
 
If true she should be founded guilty for cheating.

Failing to declare you have testes just isn't cricket.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35360.msg941391#msg941391 date=1252624269]
If true she should be founded guilty for cheating. [/quote]

that's BS - s/he should decide what she wants to be no?
 
Re: So she was a man !! Kinda

this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
 
So one 'girl' is allowed huge levels of testosterone flowing through her?

It maybe a natural occurrence but nonetheless it places her at a huge advantage to other women. Comparisons will be drawn between Phelp's lung capacity and Ussain Bolt's height and long legs, but they're incomparable because it's not an impossibility other men would be born with these capacities.

This is totally different.

She knew what she was and didn't declare it in a bid to win a gold medal. That's cheating.
 
I'd be honest about what I am. There's little honour in what she's achieved, IMO.

There must be a He/She Championships for her somewhere.
 
Re: So she was a man !! Kinda

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
 
Re: So she was a man !! Kinda

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Still would.
 
Re: So she was a man !! Kinda

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Yup - not a very well known fact.
 
Bring it on!

South African officials have stepped up their defence of Caster Semenya, warning of a "third world war" if the row over her sex stops her competing.
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I heard Mugabe said it's got a cock.
 
[quote author=Stu link=topic=35360.msg941725#msg941725 date=1252676027]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Still would.
[/quote]

It was never proven... but the silence is deafening from the Curtis camp.
 
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=35360.msg942277#msg942277 date=1252761114]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=35360.msg941725#msg941725 date=1252676027]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Her mum has said it's untrue. But she would I suppose.

Still would.
[/quote]

It was never proven... but the silence is deafening from the Curtis camp.
[/quote]
 
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=35360.msg942277#msg942277 date=1252761114]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=35360.msg941725#msg941725 date=1252676027]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Still would.
[/quote]

It was never proven... but the silence is deafening from the Curtis camp.
[/quote]

My neighbors in New York are relatives of her doctor ...
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg942584#msg942584 date=1252781750]
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=35360.msg942277#msg942277 date=1252761114]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=35360.msg941725#msg941725 date=1252676027]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=35360.msg941696#msg941696 date=1252671361]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=35360.msg941601#msg941601 date=1252663513]
this is still only coming from Australian media ...

I don't doubt this person has 'both' - but then again, so did the True Lies lady (jaime lee curtis i think) and she's classified as a woman!
[/quote]

Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite?
[/quote]

Still would.
[/quote]

It was never proven... but the silence is deafening from the Curtis camp.
[/quote]

My neighbors in New York are relatives of her doctor ...
[/quote]


Ahhh, insider knowledge. That's sullied the memory of several many post Trading Places wanks.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35360.msg941603#msg941603 date=1252663760]
So one 'girl' is allowed huge levels of testosterone flowing through her?

It maybe a natural occurrence but nonetheless it places her at a huge advantage to other women. Comparisons will be drawn between Phelp's lung capacity and Ussain Bolt's height and long legs, but they're incomparable because it's not an impossibility other men would be born with these capacities.

This is totally different.

She knew what she was and didn't declare it in a bid to win a gold medal. That's cheating.

[/quote]

Did(does) she?

The testes are internal.

Her birth certificate says female and she was brought up as a girl.
How would she know any different?

I don't really care one way or the other as I don't think much of athlectics as a sport, I just think the treatment of the girl has been appalling
 
I'd be amazed had it not cropped up before now, mate - she wouldn't have had periods, would she?

If so I take back what I said but I highly doubt it.
 
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